1:02🔗VoiceoverListener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:13🔗AdamHey, this is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-4-4-5-5. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Drew, you eating over there?
1:48🔗AdamAlways proud of that. And my poo has turned into a soft swirl because I've not eaten one ounce of fiber, I realize. Unless you count, does the crust count as fiber on a pie?
3:02🔗DrewYeah, sure. I haven't seen TV in like four years.
3:05🔗AdamSpeaking of TV, the Man Show is on right now. The great Man Show, the Playboy Best Of episode is on tonight. Oh, that is a laugh, Ryan. Monty Messex is our guest tonight. Monty has been on this show before. Monty is an old, old, old friend of mine. As a matter of fact, his mother hit me. I think we're talking about that.
4:01🔗AdamYes. What a what a fun childhood. I mean, I've been hit by two parents in my life. Neither one of was my own parent, which most people don't have that kind of distinction. But anyway, Monty is here talking about the Children's Hospital and AIDS and all that good stuff. So, Monty, why don't you depress us for about 30 seconds? What do you know?
4:22🔗Depress you. How about enlighten you a little bit?
4:31🔗So I'm here tonight to talk about the HIV awareness campaign. It's what we did last year also, raise awareness around testing for HIV among young people. And just to put the word out, World AIDS Day is coming up December 1st. And Children's Hospital Los Angeles where I work is involved in a national campaign to link people with testing. Hopefully find people that are HIV positive early on in the infection so they can get treatment.
5:04🔗AdamHow's it going now with all these cocktails and potions and what not? I mean if you catch it early enough is it something you can exist with?
5:14🔗Yeah, big time. They have the heart, the highly active, retroviral therapy and apparently they say hit it early, hit it hard but also the flip side of it is I think a lot of young people think oh well they've got all these therapies, look at Magic Johnson, blah, blah. People are living long time so I don't need to use a condom so it's not a big deal.
5:37🔗DrewWhat happened to the good old days when Spin Magazine ran articles on how HIV was concoction at the Gallo Institute and the NIH?
5:47🔗AdamWhy not? Why wouldn't they still believe that?
5:49🔗DrewBecause it's bizarre in this point where people are being, you know, you focus therapy on the HIV, the viral loads go down, people live indefinitely.
5:57🔗AdamBut they were talking about HIV as being manufactured.
6:01🔗DrewNo, no, no. The whole concept of being manufactured.
7:08🔗AdamNo, you don't think so? Don't you think he'd be a good martyr for the disease? I mean, what if he died of, you know, let's kill him of hepatitis or something like that. Word would get out very quickly, would scare people. They'd start using protection again.
7:22🔗DrewHe probably could be a nice public health education tool for HIV intervention if he didn't publicly take the position that it was prayer that's actually cured him.
7:36🔗AdamNo, he talks about his doctors and he talks about the therapy, how his doctors pray for him and how his therapist prays for him.
7:45🔗DrewNo, not that prayer's a bad thing, but there needs to be more to the story.
7:50🔗AdamI've heard him talk about it before and he talks about exercise and he talks about good health and he talks about his medication. I know, Drew wants the world to kiss his ass because his folks put him through some school, but that's not the way it works. Listen, so here's what I'm saying, though, people are taking this disease more lightly, right?
8:22🔗CallerThat especially among young people, you know, that they don't realize what a pain in the butt, you know, that it's not some walk in the park, that if you're HIV positive, it's not like an aspirin in the morning. It's pills that make you sick. And that you feel cruddy and it's, you know, it's a big bummer.
8:38🔗AdamBut they don't look at it as a death sentence. And frankly, I think it's a little bit of a backlash because here's what happened in my in my guesstimation, although, you know, I don't read. I just, you know, I watch television. But here's what I figured out. First AIDS goes unnoticed for a long period of time. Then there's this huge backlash against it going unnoticed about being a gay man's disease and all that kind of stuff. And Liz Taylor and everyone else jumps on board and everyone's wearing a ribbon. And then it goes too far the other way. Everyone could get it, it doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter where you come from, it doesn't matter whether you're a junkie or just a heterosexual sex with virgins. You have just as big a chance. And they went over the top with it that way. And then as they as what happens with everything when people go over the top one direction, people stop listening. It's like what the government tried to do with marijuana. You'll go insane, you'll go psychotic, reaper madness, and now people stop listening. And I think something like that happened with AIDS, which is, I think they went a little too far with it. And now people have stopped listening a little bit. This thing that they were spinning, you know, five years ago, eight, ten years ago, that everyone can get it, everyone's going to get it, you know, everyone has the same chance of getting it. Well, people aren't getting it, or at least not like they said they were going to get it. And so they've gone the other way, which is they're not paying attention to it anymore.
10:07🔗CallerYeah, and perhaps in our country, I mean, other parts of the world, it's, you know, they say in Africa one in four people, you know, HIV positive in certain parts of Africa, Asia, Vietnam, what have you, where the seroprevalence rates are just huge, Thailand. But perhaps in our country, you know, it's that there's a bit of a backlash on it. Also that there's a whole generation of people that have grown up in the age, you know, the last 20 years with HIV where condom use is normal, you know, and that, you know, that they've grown up in a totally different era, you know, where it's, you know, sex is about protecting yourself and...
10:52🔗AdamWell, that's good though, right? What about testing now? Do you still have to wait six months or do they have this DNA testing? Is this working out? Are people using this?
11:03🔗CallerWell, testing is, they still use the Elysa test, which tests for antibodies and takes anywhere from two weeks to six months to develop antibodies to HIV.
11:12🔗AdamThey can't work this out where it's a little bit faster?
11:15🔗CallerWell, if you're like a porn star, you can get testing that will tell you, you know, if you're positive the day of the test, it's a very expensive test.
11:32🔗AdamHow about bringing that price down? You know, I think part of the reason people don't get tested too is because they get tested and then what do they do for six months? You know what I mean? It's not a very gratifying test to take. Not that the test should be, but what I mean is, I don't care what the test is, whether it's a driving test or a math test or a HIV test, you go in to get a test because you need it.
11:53🔗CallerYou get the results right away, but the results tell you basically what you, in the most conservative estimate, they tell you what you did six months ago. I mean, you should be clear about that. You do get them the results right away. But the reason that they use the ELISA test, the antibody test, it's just, it's a more inexpensive test, and they figure that most people...
12:12🔗AdamHow about getting the price down on the porn test?
12:16🔗AdamYeah, I mean, how about, can that, and I know as stuff turns more mainstream and gets into production, they can bring the price down. What about focusing on that? I mean, if that were 30 bucks, I think people take that. I think people spend money on that. What's, why not work that angle?
12:34🔗DrewIt's not as good of a screening test, as I understand it.
12:40🔗DrewScreen, you don't want to miss anyone who's got it.
12:42🔗AdamRight, but is it the difference between 99 and 97 percent, or is it in the 70s or the 60s?
12:49🔗DrewA good screening test should be 100 percent.
12:51🔗AdamOkay, but what I'm saying is, is it a couple percentage points difference?
12:55🔗DrewTenths of a percentage point is different, I'm sure, but that's a big deal when you're talking about millions of people.
13:01🔗CallerIt's just also the difference between just price, that most likely the prices of those tests don't go down, and most people and most agencies need free tests.
13:12🔗CallerAnd it's actually, the ELISA test is a good test, as long as part of HIV getting a test is that they explain what the test is measuring. You just don't get a kick in the butt, they just don't take some blood or take an oral swab and give you a test, they explain, this is what the test is measuring, it's measuring antibodies, antibodies take a certain amount of time to develop in response to being HIV positive, blah, blah, blah. And that's the test that they can offer for free, you know, and it is a good screening test.
13:47🔗AdamAlright, so everyone go get tested, except for me. John?
13:55🔗CallerYeah, I really like to go mountain biking and stuff. And when I get done, or actually this just happened the last couple of times I've done it, I've just been real, just numb, like, you know, my penis and everything else. I've just been numb. And is this, I've heard that it cuts off circulation when you ride.
14:17🔗DrewWell, it's not so much the circulation, but the pressure on the nerve called the pudendal nerve, which is the nerve that goes out to the penis. And you can actually damage it. And I see more and more people with various kinds of problems related to spinning and mountain biking, including obstruction of the urethra and pudendal nerve damage and rectal dysfunction. There's all kinds of things that can happen. Make sure you have the right kind of seat and make sure you're not traumatizing the area.
14:46🔗AdamYeah, not really though, right? No. I mean, I know you don't want to look gay with those big springs and big quilted seat, right? Yeah, you might as well hang a basket off this thing.
14:55🔗DrewHow are we going to make sure they change the seat? Okay, here's the deal, John. Your penis isn't going to work if you keep going down this road.
15:00🔗CallerYeah, I heard it makes you like sterile or something.
15:24🔗AdamOkay. Oh, it is me. Yeah. Get the one with the slot cut out, John, and save your nuts. And listen, all you guys are crazy with the spinning and spending four hours a day on the mountain bike. Knock it off, please. Dylan?
15:49🔗CallerYeah, exactly. When I take it, I can hold an erection like constantly all day long. Right. I'm taking it. I'm wondering, I've been taking it like every day, so I don't know what the downside of it is. I know every drug tends to have an equal and opposite downside.
16:03🔗DrewThat's right. And it's not been well studied, but it's going to be similar to any other anabolic or androgenic steroid in that taking it in sufficient quantity, it's eventually going to drop your sperm count. It's going to make your erections not work quite so well. It's going to drop your libido. It's going to make you depressed.
16:56🔗AdamNo. What I'm saying is, good shape doesn't mean not being able to achieve an erection and being prone to tantrums or crying while driving. You know what I'm saying?
17:07🔗AdamWell, let me tell you, let me tell all you workout guys something. I have to give this speech every once in a while. You're busting your ass for nothing. You really are. There is a certain subset of women who really like a guy with big bounding muscles. Those women are crazy bitches. Crazy. Those are the chicks with the big hair and the unicorns painted on their nails and have had the collagen injected into their lips where it looks sort of a comical. That's those chicks. You want those chicks? Hit the gym, brother. Hit the tanning salon. Get your body greased up, shave everything off of everywhere except for the top of your head and your eyebrows and have had it. You want good-looking chicks other than the crazy ones with the collagen injections? Just jog a little, swim a few laps, do some push-ups, do some chin-ups. That's what they want. They don't want the big crazy muscles. And you spend a lot of time trying to get those and they'll go away. You bust your ankle and four weeks later, they're gone. I think guys work out that way for other guys. Not the gay guys, although Lord knows. Lord knows the gay guys do that for the other gay guys. But even the straight guys do it for the other guys. Not for them, but to intimidate them. They want respect from them and they want the guys to think they get a lot of poon tang. See, stupid guys see a guy with huge arms and say, Boy, I bet that guy gets a lot of tail.
18:41🔗DrewYeah, a lot of addicts in gyms too. And addicts, they have sex addiction, they act out with other sex addicts. Women who are attracted to that kind of symbol.
18:49🔗AdamListen, guys, you know who gets the most tail? It's the emaciated guys. It's the small guys. It's the scrawny guys.
19:01🔗AdamPut down the dumbbell and pick up the syringe. Pull those steroids out of it and put some H in it there. Put a little smack. You want the ladies? That's what you do. Thank you. Susan?
19:37🔗AdamFor testing because he's pro-AIDS. Right. Big fan of AIDS. Susan?
19:41🔗CallerAnyway, my question for Dr. Drew is, I heard that if you take St. John's Wort and you're on the pill at the same time, that it can dramatically reduce the effectiveness of the pill.
19:52🔗DrewI don't know about dramatically, but the pill interacts with lots of different medication. It makes sense to me that particular progestational pills might not work so well in St. John's Wort.
20:04🔗CallerI have been on both the pill and St. John's Wort for two years. Since I heard this bad stuff about St. John's Wort, I have been tapering down and I'm going to just go off. Where did you hear that? I actually asked at my last exam and the nurse practitioner said that there had been a study out and it was really not the best study or no one really knew.
20:29🔗DrewRight. It's not all that well studied but it makes sense that it might not work.
20:33🔗CallerYeah, it does make sense but I guess I'm wondering since I'm pretty much decided to go off of St. John's Wort because of, I don't know.
20:42🔗DrewWho's treating you with St. John's Wort?
21:08🔗DrewIt would be insane for me to treat myself. That's considered foolishness.
21:14🔗AdamWe've done this before. Drew gives it to me, and I hand it to him. Technically, I'm treating him.
21:18🔗DrewFor people to be treating themselves for depression is bizarre. If you have a bona fide medical condition that needs evaluation, and then let somebody else make those decisions about therapeutics for you, that's fine.
21:29🔗CallerPrevious to going on the St. John's work, I had been in therapy, and at one point it was just mentioned.
21:35🔗AdamListen, hold on. Drew's on the National Depressive Board, which is very fitting. Hold on.
21:43🔗AdamThe reason he's pushing depression as a medical illness is because he's in the pockets of these people. But everyone's depressed a little bit. It's a matter of degree. And when it gets over a certain point, then it becomes a bona fide condition.
21:58🔗DrewThat's the point. If somebody, the director of the manager, should take St. John's work, it's fine. Somebody also should decide how long and when it stops and under what condition it stops.
22:05🔗CallerCan't you get St. John's isn't like at Trader Joe's or at the health food store. It's all over the place. It's not like.
22:10🔗DrewBut it's the point is these are serious conditions and people don't even know about it. Have you ever tried?
22:15🔗CallerBut also people maybe kick around depression. Maybe she's.
22:19🔗DrewNo, she saw a therapist. Therapist brought it up and she followed direction. Hold on a second. It's a little closer to what I would like to say.
22:24🔗AdamWait a second. You ever try to kill yourself?
23:31🔗AdamThey basically let these gearheads loose in a junkyard. It's an interesting show. Even you could get it up for this, Drew. They say... Here's what they do. It's filmed out of... It's in England or somewhere. They let two teams of gearheads, like four people, five people on each team together, they cut them loose in a junkyard. They give them 10 hours to build a... Could be a submarine, could be like a hovercraft, could be... And they give them a task. Your vehicle must go X amount of feet on land and then go X amount of feet in the water and then go X amount of feet on land with all four of you aboard. And whoever does it the fastest wins the coveted whatever it is. I saw 11 of those straight, you know? I couldn't turn it off because I had to see who was going to win at the end and then the very next one they were building some kind of land yacht or some sort of flying machine or something. I had to watch. I couldn't turn it off. Then BattleBots on Comedy Central came on and they were running a marathon.
24:36🔗AdamThis is this great thing in San Francisco. It's been going on for a lot of years that people build these remote-control robots, but they're not really robots. They're essentially riding mowers with blades on themselves and they beat the crap out of each other to see who wins. You've never seen the competition? It's been around for a lot of years.
25:00🔗AdamOh my god. I'm sitting there in my underpants on my fifth class of wine thinking I'm going to build one of these babies. I'm stunning you now. I'm giving you all fair notice, because I will be in the arena with my BattleBot one day. These guys are great. I mean, they're all the same guy.
25:23🔗AdamYeah, these are my model airplane friends with a slightly more aggressive, antisocial streak to them. Crazy guys who are made fun of for playing Dungeons and Dragons, and now they become electronic engineers, and they sit in their basement of their mom's house all day. Yes, Trekkies. But anyway, the point is, is they have these marathons, and these things should be outlawed, because I cannot get off of them. I saw, you know, 15 BattleBot episodes and 11 Junkyard War episodes. All right, Monty Messex is our guest tonight. Is the Man Show on? Yeah, it's on now. We'll take a break. We'll be back.
26:22🔗You're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio. 100.7 The Buzz.
26:41🔗AdamYep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191. Monty Messex is our guest tonight. Monty is not only a guy I've known since I was eight years old, maybe seven and a half, but also works at the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles. Working, he's here tonight talking about AIDS, and what's the fastest growing AIDS, new AIDS victim population, Monty?
27:17🔗CallerI think that probably the largest group are, well, there's a lot of different groups that are expanding. Women for one, women of color.
27:34🔗CallerYoung men who have sex with men also moving up. But I think that one of the largest groups that...
27:40🔗AdamSee, who says white men are hogging everything? You know what I mean? We're always accused of gobbling up everything. But here's women of color stepping out and asserting themselves.
27:51🔗CallerYeah, and mostly though I think that the concern is that among young people, that rates of HIV are increasing among young people.
28:00🔗DrewIt says every hour of every day, more than two people under the age of 21 are infected with HIV. Is that worldwide?
28:06🔗CallerNo, that's the United States. That's actually out of a recent report from the White House on HIV that just came out last month. Yeah.
28:23🔗AdamI don't know if you know this, that 53,000 people died last year of secondhand smoke in the United States. Is that coming from the same source? Here's my problem. It really is. And I hate to be such a hole. But now I don't believe anything. Ever since that goddamn secondhand smoke statistic of 53,000 people dying in this country from secondhand smoke and all, ever since the anti-smokers got hold of the number, did start doing the math on stuff. Now, when I hear reports on anything, I don't believe it. Do you know what I'm saying? It is ruin me. I'd like to sue them for stealing my hope or my faith.
29:04🔗AdamI mean, I believe it, but I don't believe anything anymore.
29:08🔗CallerBut the thing is with numbers get cooked up here and there and all the kick-punching around. But in terms of HIV, which is a preventable disease, you have to say to yourself, I'm a human being, I'm a person, I'm not a statistic, and what can I do to protect myself? I think that's the reason I'm here tonight is to talk about HIV testing and about how people can protect themselves.
29:37🔗AdamAll right, you're ready to hop on the phones here? I was listening to, by the way, I was listening, I know it's big amongst African Americans, and I was listening to Jesse Jackson deliver some speech on, I don't know, some public access radio or something. And he was talking about how high it was in Africa. I mean, you were talking about how it's like, I don't know, 25% of the population has HIV. And then he was talking about what a travesty it was that African Americans were six times higher and a six times greater chance or 600 times or whatever it was. Greater chance, six times and 600 times, same thing, isn't it? If you think about it, why not?
30:25🔗AdamOh, percent, sorry. I don't mean times, yeah. Here's my point. He was angry that the African Americans had a six times higher chance of getting it than other folks. But I thought, all right, but that's still pretty good considering, you know, you got the African part right in there and the African American. You know what I mean?
30:44🔗DrewI thought it was not so bad. Compared to other worldwide experiences of people there...
30:50🔗AdamYeah, it's 25% in your country of origin, you know what I mean? And here, it's only...
30:56🔗CallerBut the thing is that HIV primarily affects people in lower socioeconomic. That is, people that don't have as much money in our country tend to be the people, whether... Regardless of skin color, that's where it focuses.
31:11🔗AdamLet me explain something to everybody. Let me explain. Poverty, that is the ultimate bias. Forget about racism, forget about sexism. Povertyism, that will get you. You can buy your way out of anything. And it's dangerous to be poor. It is.
31:32🔗AdamOf course. But people want to act like it's not or like everything should be equal. Here's the deal. When I was poor, I drove a beat up mini pickup truck with no headrest, with my head resting against the rear glass of the thing, with no airbag, with no side impact beam, with no nothing. I probably had a thousand percent chance higher of crashing or of dying in a crash. Now I got a car.
32:03🔗CallerNot to mention you probably didn't have health insurance. I didn't have any of that.
32:07🔗AdamDidn't have any of that. That had to do with being poor. And when you're poor, you do stuff. You have jobs that are more dangerous. You sit at a bus stop at two in the morning in a bad neighborhood.
32:21🔗AdamYou live, you eat worse food. You live in a neighborhood where the crime rate is higher. There's just lots, there's, it's, it's dangerous. Lots of risks. Yeah, there's lots of risks. And this is just, this is another one of those risks. So forget about the hiv, make some money. That's my point. You know how many airbags my car has now? It has one in the trunk, just in case I'm trying to smuggle someone across the border. There's a trunk airbag in there. I have a rectal airbag. It's actually on the bottom of the seat. It goes up my ass.
32:49🔗DrewYou're not supposed to use that question frequently. I may have mentioned that to you.
33:31🔗DrewAnd is it interfering with your life in any way?
33:35🔗CallerNot really. But I was just wondering like hormonally if that would screw anything up.
33:41🔗DrewNo, no. The question is though, do you have some sort of sexual compulsion? And an easy way to sort of assess your risk for that is how your upbringing was. In other words, during your childhood, were there any traumas that might have...
33:54🔗DrewYeah. And so being traumatized either with physical abuse or sexual abuse or...
33:58🔗CallerNo, it was more of a mental, you know...
34:01🔗DrewYeah, all that... It's funny the way the brain works. Some of that gets converted into sexuality as a way of sort of managing those feelings.
34:06🔗CallerAlso, I'd like to know if manic depression has to do with something with hypersexual activity.
34:11🔗DrewAbsolutely. If you're in a manic phase or a hypomanic phase, definitely lots of sexual activity.
34:17🔗DrewSo this may be... So having been in that kind of a chaotic environment, having that genetic predisposition, this hypersexuality or manifesting may be just a sign of that coming forward. So it would be just a good idea to get an evaluation just to see if there's something you should be watched for. Not that you have to stop masturbating, but it may be a sign that something's going on.
34:37🔗CallerYeah, maybe I just listened to Loveline too much.
36:03🔗AdamI'd like to get a, I'd like to invent a bike seat that made guys sterile. I believe guys who spend more than 10 hours a week on a bike should not be having kids.
36:13🔗DrewShould be rendered sterile, right? Okay.
36:15🔗AdamWell, think about it. You want that raising your son, raising your daughter, you know what I mean? Here's a guy spending that kind of time on a bike seat. This is an adult on a bicycle, for Christ's sake. Okay. And listen, I don't trust any of these guys who turn whatever their hobby is into some kind of way of life. You snowboarding idiots, you skateboarding guys, you biking guys, all you guys. Fine. I understand you're into it. I'm not. Keep it to yourself. I don't need to see the stickers and the patches, the decals, the racks. I don't need to know about your life. I don't need to pass you at the Vons and know you're seriously into snowboarding. Do you know what I mean? I'm not jacking off at the Vons. I don't want you snowboarding. Do you know what I'm saying?
36:56🔗DrewThere is a tendency toward people to identify themselves.
36:58🔗AdamHold on a second. Anderson yelled into the mic except before people were talking at the exact same time he yelled into the mic. So what was he saying?
37:06🔗You make a living off talking about what you do all the time.
37:15🔗DrewI love, I heart, here you go, Adam, it's for you.
37:18🔗AdamWhatever it is you're into, don't advertise it. I don't care what it is. I don't care if you're Mr. Straight Guy, Mr. Gay Guy, Mr. Biker Guy, flawed, all of you.
37:28🔗DrewA common and simplistic version of this is people put stickers of their high school or college on there. Just so people-
37:35🔗DrewBut people, you share something, you identify someone, you have contact with somebody around a shared issue. Yes. So the natural progression of that is to sports and styles and things like that.
37:45🔗AdamYeah. I don't mind you. I don't mind knowing that you're an alumni of Loyola Marymount. It doesn't bother me that much. It's when we start getting into professions, start talking about how nurses do it from nine to five or these. You start basically laying out the kind of person you are and your license plate. I mean, yeah, I don't have any stickers. I deem everyone with a vanity license plate as flawed.
38:14🔗AdamYeah. I don't trust any of those people. I'm not interested in what your kids' names are. I don't care. I don't care what you're into. I don't care how much, you know, if you're into two-stepping. I don't care what you're into. And I don't want to know. And I think there's something wrong with you for wanting me to know about it. That's all I'm saying, especially on the highway. And then the ones that just advertise, they're good, they're bitchy people. Like, you know, they see these license plate frames, they'll say like, 99% angel, 1% bitch, or yes, I do, but not with you, or these A-holes with the Bad Boy Club sticker on their rear bumper. Oh, man, this guy's tough. He's got a sticker. Look at that. What's he advertising? Don't rape him? What is he saying? And then there's, of course, the ones with the Calvin or Hobbs. Peeing. Peeing. The other guys that are angry at other makes of automobiles. He's a Ford man. He's pissed off about any guy driving a Chevy. Everyone knows Ford rules. Because his brother-in-law was stupid enough to buy one and then give him his F-150. I just don't like people that advertise in general.
39:41🔗AdamYou took the B of the BMW. It just says BM on it now. Fantastic. Monty Messex is our guest tonight. He's here from the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles. Old friend of mine. And tonight we're trying to enlighten ourselves on AIDS. We'll be back after this.
40:18🔗CallerYou're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio, 100.7 The Buzz.
40:29🔗AdamYeah, it is a loveline of Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Monty Messex is our guest tonight. Monty's here talking about HIV and AIDS. Monty had a national number to call, an 800 number, Monty. Oh, wait, don't give it out just yet. We're gonna let people grab that pen and pencil and poise themselves with that. And then this is a number they can call for what?
40:54🔗CallerAnd this is a number that you can call to get a referral for testing if you live in, it's a national number, so you can call it, tell them where you live. They'll give you, either they'll hook you up directly with a testing site in your area, or say like for Los Angeles, they'll direct you to a number that you can call to get free HIV testing. A lot of these testing sites do oral testing, that is they don't have to take blood, they use, they don't test your saliva, your spit, they just take like a little scraping out of your mouth, basically, and test the cells in your, inside of your cheek. And, so this is an 800 number, it's kind of a weird 800 number, but it's free. So it's 866-EXAM-HIV, 866-EXAM-HIV. That's the number.
41:57🔗AdamAnd, so, so, you mean it's a, it's a, eponym. It's, yeah, but it's a, I thought it was an acronym. Yeah, acronym. It's a, it's a, eight, the 800 is the 866 part, right?
42:09🔗CallerRight, right. They ran out of, they ran out of the 800, so they went from the 888 to the 866, and who knows what's next.
42:17🔗AdamAll right, so we're now in the 866 exam.
42:31🔗CallerOkay, I was in a situation over the weekend where I was at a bar, and there's like a lot of people, and I was in a, like a crowded stairway. That one shredded up ne- like, someone shredded, you know, there's so many people passing, someone came up, you know, beside me and kind of shredded against me, and it felt like a hard pinch on my shoulder. And I looked in the light, and it, the mark that had been left was like, what could have re- resembled a possible puncture wound?
43:04🔗CallerYeah, as in a needle. And I was wondering how much truth do you find in like accusations that people make, you know, like the rumors that people say that people are getting stuck in like bars or movie theaters or people, you know, by some psycho that's out to infect people with needles?
43:21🔗CallerNo, I mean, I get emails all the time. People talk about it.
43:25🔗CallerAnd did the puncture wound draw blood?
43:29🔗CallerNo, but the thing was, is that I had a physical done where I had to draw some blood and I didn't bleed afterwards at all.
43:36🔗DrewHow do you know it was a puncture if there was no?
43:38🔗CallerI mean, there was no, I mean, it just looked like a like I've been pricked by something. There was like a scratch as well. And I was like freaked out. I had a police report made.
43:50🔗AdamPolice report. Jesus Christ, honey. Do you have your own personal police force or is this the one we all use?
43:57🔗CallerI told the bouncer what had happened at the club and they have to do that, I guess.
44:09🔗CallerThere are so many people and it could...
44:12🔗CallerIt wasn't just like a sharp pencil or did the guy have like a pin in his coat that he forgot to take out or something like that?
44:19🔗DrewSo the question then becomes should she have prophylaxis for... Exposure and I would think not but it's a contestable point.
44:28🔗AdamAll right. But this is a wives tale. There's people going out and infecting other people and then taking their lipstick and drawing messages on the mirror of the hotel. They just got done having sex in and it's right up there with stealing the guy's kidneys and selling them on the black market.
44:45🔗CallerI can't believe everything you hear but then you know it's like.
44:49🔗CallerI think that the analogous thing is in hospitals, people do get pricked by needles and then the question is, do you go and get some kind of treatment? And a lot of times the odds are that the treatment's not really warranted.
45:14🔗DrewSo definitely get tested. Definitely get tested.
45:15🔗AdamYeah. And everyone, leave the cops alone, please. Please let them go out and do something other than sit around with their goddamn radar guns and go to clubs and write up crazy chicks who got stabbed with a belt buckle going down on a stair. That's two cops. What do you say? Two cops, what, two and a half hours, for Christ's sake? Oh, Jesus. Driving down Beverly Boulevard two days ago, there was the cop just sitting there, just sitting on that driveway, just holding that radar gun. Not enough manpower. We don't have enough manpower. Yeah, because you're all sitting around trying to bust taxpayers. Get off your ass and get busy.
45:59🔗AdamOh, you nut jobs, calling cops, come over as your cat's in a tree, or your husband had too many wine coolers, or the neighbors playing their stereo too loud. Come on.
46:22🔗CallerEver since I started having sex, that was when I was 19, I've had problems on and off with pain during sex. And it seems to get worse when I'm on the pill. I ended up, I went through a phase where I tried a bunch of different kinds of pills and whenever I was on it, it was horrible. And then if I stopped it within a couple weeks, it seemed better.
46:45🔗AdamAll right. Well, let's just get to this. We don't have much time. Are you crazy?
47:39🔗CallerThe question I have also, cause talking about family stuff is, I had spoken to my mom about this before and she said that she used to have a lot of pain during sex.
48:21🔗CallerOutrageous Talk Radio, 100.7, The Buzz, KQBC Seattle.
48:46🔗AdamHey, Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla. Dr. Drew is in the other room talking to, I hope he's talking to our last caller. Yeah, he is, there he is. And he labeled her as nuts and hostile. I hope she can't hear us right now. Drew, you can't hear me, can you, brother? No, good. He looked over here as if he could hear me, and then he looked back down again. Yeah, get her off the phone, would you, Drew? All right. Monty Messex is our guest tonight. Monty is not only a guy.
49:17🔗AdamI met originally, I'd say eight years old. What would you say, Monty?
49:23🔗CallerOh, jeez. I can't even remember. I remember, though, that it was old enough where I slept over at your house on the weekends, you slept over at my house on the weekends, and we probably slept in the same bed together.
49:43🔗AdamMonty, Monty and I had all kinds of fun growing up. We got a refrigerator box and went down some grass hill behind his house. His mother, Roberta, smacked me in the back of their Volvo station wagon while we were driving.
49:57🔗CallerI remember having goulash at your grandfather's house.
49:59🔗AdamOh, went over to my grandpa's house and had a beautiful bowl of authentic Hungarian goulash. We go way, way back. And now Monty, and this is pure coincidence, by the way, he's working for the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles. And he's trying to, he's waging a one man crusade to prevent AIDS.
50:28🔗DrewBut I mean, she really has a sort of medical problem there. And she's going to talk to gynecologist about estrogen creams or testosterone creams sometimes help. It's actually an issue of how the tissue functions down there. And I had the onus of telling her that maybe she should have to keep it down below five minutes of activity.
50:46🔗AdamNice. Yeah. What do you mean how the tissue, the vaginal tissue works? How does that work?
50:52🔗DrewWell, it's under the influence of hormones. If the estrogen levels are not high enough, if the, you know, the sort of environment isn't good, the tissue gets irritated and dry and atrophic.
51:02🔗AdamWhat do you do with that estrogen cream? Does the man put that on his penis and then? No.
51:07🔗DrewNo. She just puts it on the outside and the little applicator to put it in.
52:49🔗DrewMasochism is really considered a fetish of sexual expression. Like in order to function sexually, you have to have a certain amount of violence brought on in the inner, in the action of sex. But cutters and self-mutilators do that all the time as a way of managing all kinds of feelings.
53:19🔗AdamIt's like you're holding yourself hostage and trying to get information out of yourself.
53:23🔗DrewIt's interesting that you would even associate with a sexual sort of form of expression because people have tried to make that connection, that there is some sort of throwback to something about one's sexuality, but it's sort of irrelevant.
53:38🔗CallerI don't know. When I was little, I was kind of on the chunkier side, I guess. And I just thought maybe it would bring out the pain or something, you know?
55:31🔗AdamNo one did anything horrible to you? No. Alright, well then stop. Thank you. If nothing happened to you and you grew up in a loving environment with two parents that still remain together and share with you with love, then stop burning yourself with cigarettes. There's got to be more there.
55:48🔗DrewYeah, there's more there, but I would say it's not going to come out. Just talking to her on the radio and it's a sign that there's some real serious emotional issues going on.
55:58🔗AdamHow much of this can be nature? Can it be nature?
56:04🔗AdamWe don't, but can, I don't know if it's documented, can people have a certain propensity for that sort of activity?
56:10🔗DrewAnd then given the right environmental cues to bring it on, maybe, but I've never seen it that way. It always has some sort of specific stuff going on.
56:20🔗AdamYeah, so what I mean is, alcoholism has its gene.
56:35🔗DrewIf I had to paint her family portrait, that's an alcoholic dad, over-intrusive mom, perfectionistic, idealized older sister, and she's the chunky one that it was intruded upon also, but doesn't get all the benefits.
56:47🔗AdamWell, dad's gotta be an alcoholic. He's a blacksmith. Stariah, your dad's an alcoholic, right?
57:55🔗AdamThis is teen idol, Adam Corolla. I command you to do my bidding for me. I'd like you to start by going on a killing spree tomorrow. Oh, he can hear me. Start with something small, like a neighbor's dog, and then we'll work our way up into classmates and eventually politicians. Let's see if I can plant something subliminally, Drew. Oh, he's shaking around.
58:24🔗DrewHe's responding to your commands. Signify to hear him by breathing hard into the telephone.
58:30🔗AdamYes, if the answer is yes to my plea of killing for me, breathe out very hard in a very nasally way.
58:54🔗DrewYou collect all the animals in the world for the upcoming Armageddon.
58:57🔗AdamHere's what I'd like you to do. Zach? Hold on. Let me talk, Zach. You're very comfortable. You're very warm. You're sitting on a toilet. You're on your own personal throne.
59:12🔗DrewYou've just had a battle out in front of a castle.
59:16🔗AdamYou've had something else. You're just eating a huge Thanksgiving dinner with all the trimmings. You should have never had that third helping of candy jams, which you did anyway. And then you wash it all down with a big cup of coffee. Now you're sitting on the toilet. You're very, very relaxed. It's time to let yourself go. Let yourself experience the pleasures of the movement. Ready? Go.
1:00:01🔗DrewYeah, that's right. It's an incontinent weekend. But I was thinking about your dreams as it pertained to your bedwetting history. And it seems like...
1:00:19🔗DrewYeah. And people have always theorized that the endorheosis had something to do with aggression. And I thought to myself, no, it's what people do after a release of aggression. It's when they're letting go of an aggressive impulse. When you're done killing all the Huns out on the fjord, that's when you pee.
1:00:35🔗AdamRight. Well, that was only one dream where I wet my girlfriend's bed. My other wet your bed dreams have been, you know, at an airport standing in front of a urinal.
1:00:48🔗DrewYou weren't just pissed off at a stewardess or something?
1:00:49🔗AdamNo, I haven't done... I didn't do any ass kicking, you know. Although I was beating up a guy last night, my dreams.
1:01:12🔗CallerYeah, actually, I made up the call for the call stream. I just wanted to call up and say, you guys are great. And Adam, you know how you're always talking about the behind-the-scenes?
1:01:21🔗CallerWell, I was coming, I was talking with a bunch of my buddies and they were like talking about the boon tang, you know? And I was thinking maybe we should get a boon tang.
1:01:35🔗AdamAll right. Hold on a second. Thanks, Paul. The behind-the-scenes is what gay males have in the rectum that can either be broken or they can remain virgins. I think every male has a behind-the-scenes. Does he not, Drew? Yeah. That is the equivalent to the female's hymen. Drew, your behind-the-scenes still intact? Spiritually. Okay. If you don't count Jewish camp in 1971. But here's what he was saying. Oh, I have no idea what he's saying. Forget what he's saying.
1:02:06🔗DrewLet's bring up the National AIDS Hotline number for finding an alternative test site or any test site?
1:02:16🔗CallerThere are test sites that are included. Hopefully they're... Well, I know the ones in Los Angeles, we've done a really good job in making sure that test sites that people get referred to are youth-sensitive. That is, that they have flexible hours. They're free. They offer blood and orasure. They also offer confidential or anonymous testing as you can give your name or you don't have to give your name or you can make up a name if you want to. And the number is 1-866, that's a free number, 866-EXAM-HIV. 1-866-392-6448. Tell the operator what city you're calling from and they will hook you up with a number to get HIV testing.
1:03:01🔗AdamDid they give you, I went down to a free clinic and got the test for AIDS.
1:03:08🔗AdamI mean HIV, I don't know, 8 years ago or something like that. And you had to do the whole course, you know, where the 600 pound black woman put the condom on the cucumber and the whole, you know what I'm talking about?
1:03:28🔗AdamWe can't just go down and get tested and get the hell out of there?
1:03:31🔗CallerWell, I mean, you know, if you go to a place where it's cool, you know, hopefully you can say to them, look, you know, I don't want to do the cucumber and this and that, I know how to do the condom.
1:03:41🔗AdamIt worked though, I didn't get laid for another three years.
1:03:44🔗CallerYou just like always pulled out a condom and a cucumber and then they just ran screaming.
1:03:48🔗AdamNo, I couldn't achieve an erection for a full 18 months after that visit to the clinic.
1:03:52🔗DrewSex in the City tonight is the big thing about HIV testing.
1:04:21🔗CallerI heard the party and there's bogus, but I keep going. All right. At this party, you know, this girl, I've had a couple of drinks. She's had a couple of drinks. Now we start doing stuff. No. She got oral sex. You know, I kind of think you start going at it sexually and put on a condom on the whole nine yards, but it keeps like flipping off. So she says, well, I'm on the pill anyway. I take it off.
1:04:50🔗AdamAnd then, you know, why didn't she say that at the beginning?
1:05:01🔗CallerAnyway, you know, the condom came off. Then, you know, we went about whatever, you know, had sex, but I didn't finish in her. You know, like, I don't know, I guess I just couldn't. And like, after a while, I just pull out, you know, finish myself off and, you know, go take a shower, that kind of thing.
1:05:23🔗AdamYeah. Where did you finish yourself off?
1:05:25🔗CallerLike the bed, like right next to where we were at.
1:05:29🔗AdamThat's a James Bond type move. Hold on, honey. Well, I'll jack off. What do you want? A red book? Something to read? Crossword puzzle? I'll be jacking off over here.
1:05:40🔗CallerI made her finish like 10 minutes into it.
1:05:43🔗CallerSo, you know, it was just like, she was just waiting for me to finish. And I said, well, you know, I'm just going to stop this. It's been like an hour already, so I'm tired. So then I asked her, I said, you know, when was the last time you got tested for diseases? And she said, it was like last month when I got my birth control pills.
1:06:15🔗AdamOh, good. Let me tell you, it's bad etiquette, ladies. I know you're trying to help, but all that like, oh, you're so hot. Yeah, look at you. Oh, you're big. Let me mess with your nipples. I was like, listen, I appreciate the facts. You think I'm hot, but just quiet down. I got to finish checking off here. I got to focus.
1:06:31🔗CallerI was talking about how she has to go to work tomorrow.
1:06:42🔗CallerIt was a very weird situation. All right.
1:06:47🔗AdamI think he used the F word there. So we have to put him on hold.
1:06:52🔗DrewSo high risk. Yeah, risk. I think the question is going to ask is, does the fact that he didn't ejaculate have any impact on his risk for HIV or any other disease for that matter? Absolutely not.
1:07:43🔗DrewThe reason, I mean, they just proved about six months ago that oral sex could transmit HIV had not been proven. And in those cases, those were all situations where semen was transmitted.
1:07:53🔗AdamAll right, but in a situation where a guy did not have an orgasm and did not have a leaky dork, as we like to say in the medical community.
1:08:01🔗DrewThat's what I'm saying. It's not just leakiness. It's the exposure of the urethra.
1:08:05🔗AdamWell, no, we don't know that. You were just saying that.
1:08:07🔗DrewRight, we don't. That's true. We don't.
1:08:09🔗CallerWell, I think, though, from his, a couple of things that he said was that he didn't ejaculate. But just because you don't feel it, there's still some pre-cum, so that means that if you're not using a condom...
1:08:21🔗AdamThere doesn't necessarily have to be. But there is for most 18-year-old guys, that's true.
1:08:26🔗CallerSo that's what puts her, the woman in this situation, though, is more at risk than he is, unless he has lesions on his penis or something like that. And a lot of times, if people are having sex where they're not using condoms, they're more, you're more at risk to get other sexually transmitted diseases like gonorrhea than you are to get HIV. I mean, you definitely can. But if you start getting STDs, you're at very high risk also for getting HIV. Why?
1:08:55🔗DrewTwo or more STDs puts you in a high risk category.
1:08:57🔗AdamWell, it puts you in a high risk category because you're the person who's a banging hose without a condom. It doesn't put you in a high risk category, you idiot.
1:09:07🔗DrewNo, but it also says something about the kind of person, the kind of risk you're taking with the kind of person.
1:09:11🔗CallerAnd also just from a biological perspective, you have, with a lot of STDs, you have breaks in the skin. And so now there's like another way for the virus to get into your body.
1:09:22🔗AdamWell, I'll buy that. But you see, I don't like that, those kind of studies really, because it sort of suggests that it is the disease, it is the herpes, or it is the gonorrhea that is making it higher. And I know what you're saying, but there's a lot of these tests that go down this way, and I think it's almost propaganda. It's saying if you're the kind of person that runs in this crowd, doesn't use a condom, you're going to get this disease, or you have a higher probability of getting the disease. But if you never got a disease, any other disease, you still weren't wearing a condom, you're still running with this crowd, you'd still have just as high a percentage chance of getting it as the person that had the other stuff. That's what I'm saying. Except for Monty talking about the lesions, which is a decent point.
1:10:13🔗CallerAnd also, I think another thing that this guy said that was, is that the girl said that she got tested for diseases about a month ago. And see, another good part of getting yourself HIV tested, which you were kind of bagging on, but seriously, is that when you get tested, they explain to you what a test means. So a lot of people say, oh, I'm HIV negative, I just got tested. And they don't really understand that when you get tested, remember we were talking earlier about the window period, and that there are certain tests that can say for sure you're negative, and there are certain tests that say we didn't find the antibody, but you could have the virus in your body, you need to come back and get tested again in six months. And so when you go and you get tested, you need to take some time out and learn about what the test means, so that when some chick or some dude or whatever says to you, oh, I'm negative, you can say to them, well, when were you tested? Oh, I was tested a month ago, I was tested yesterday. And so you can know what that means. And so then it's like, well, you know.
1:11:09🔗AdamAll right. Let me just say, see if Zach still sleeps there. He's been on hold for 103 minutes.
1:11:22🔗AdamAll right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. Monty Messex is our guest tonight from the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles. We'll give out that 800 number a couple more times for the night of Drew. So all you youngins and a website address so you guys can get yourself tested. We'll be back after this.
1:12:20🔗AdamI'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Everclear is going to be in here in a couple of days, so it'll be good to see our friends again. Monty Messex is our guest tonight.
1:12:32🔗AdamHe is from the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles, and he's here to, well, he comes in once a year and help people learn about AIDS and depress people. National AIDS Day is...
1:12:50🔗CallerStuff going on all over the country. Here in Los Angeles, we have, I think, something at the African American Museum over in Exposition Park.
1:13:02🔗AdamRight. They're having, I think, they're having an exhibit at the Clann Museum which is over in central Orange County. They're moving to Simi Valley. I can't remember but I'll be there cutting the ribbon. What else do they have going on, Monty?
1:13:16🔗CallerThey have in East Los Angeles, the Wall of Los Memorias is doing something, I think, at Lincoln Park.
1:13:57🔗AdamI was telling someone on the phone tonight after I explained to them, I took a two-hour nap today. I said, Geez, didn't you sleep ten hours last night? I said, Listen to me. Soon we'll be dead and then there'll be no more time for napping. So let's do it now.
1:14:12🔗AdamThat's the message I'd like to spread across this land. You are not going to have the opportunity to nap for the next 200 years. Your time on this planet is very limited. You see what I'm saying?
1:14:24🔗AdamYou're going to... I'd hate to be on my desk bed and realize I wasn't in bed earlier when I wasn't on my desk bed. You see what I'm saying?
1:14:34🔗CallerAnd napping is safe as far as HIV is concerned.
1:14:37🔗AdamLet's get the napping in before we die. Tony?
1:15:38🔗DrewSo she needs to get that treated. We have a sort of a traditional answer we give to this.
1:15:44🔗AdamYeah. Although I don't think anyone uses it. But again, the advice I give on this show is not for the person who called up. It's for the sober people who are listening to the person who called up. Tony?
1:15:58🔗AdamAnd just listen to me because this is one of my greatest ruses. And I wish more people would do this. You tell her that you heard this show, you heard Dr. Drew talking about this with another caller, not yourself, and that he said, if you smell something coming from that area, it could be a sign of infection.
1:16:20🔗AdamAnd that you're worried about her, and you're worried that she might have an infection. So you would like her to go to the gynecologist and get checked out because you love her so much.
1:16:50🔗CallerHi. No, it's... No, actually, like all the times I ask you to do oral, like you ask me to do oral to you.
1:17:01🔗CallerWhat? I thought we're going out to dinner.
1:17:06🔗CallerYeah, we are. We'll do it afterwards, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. The stuff he asked me to do to you, I know it's a strange smell down there, and I think you have some sexual transmitted diseases.
1:17:51🔗AdamAnd so you got stuff down there and it's like you need like a hosing down or something. Yeah, that was not that awful. Tony, Tony, listen to me.
1:18:24🔗AdamAnd you heard Drew say that this may be a sign of infection when someone else called about it. And you're a little bit worried and you're worried that she might have an infection.
1:20:12🔗DrewThis is an example of a sad state of our education system.
1:20:15🔗AdamTony, Tony, Tony. Yeah. One more time, baby. You're going real good, except for you got the part where you called in to Loveline. Remember, you heard it. You were listening to Loveline. Someone else called in about this problem.
1:20:29🔗CallerI was in the shower with my waterproof radio.
1:20:33🔗AdamRight. You see what I'm saying? In your car.
1:20:45🔗CallerWell, I was driving home. Well, I was driving up to meet you. Yeah. I was listening to Loveline and I heard them talking about some interesting things.
1:21:14🔗CallerAnd I think it's probably the same problem you have. So I think it would be easier to go to a a gynecologist to check this out. What are you talking about?
1:21:49🔗AdamLet me have our polish, really. I've said, see, this is why I say the information is not for them because they have no way of enacting them. I might, you know what? I might as well give a chimp a chemistry set and tell him if he can, you know, whip up some table salt or gunpowder. I mean, I can provide the tools. That's all I can do.
1:22:37🔗CallerYeah. His conservator is his mother, and we can't get married until another four years because of insurance reasons, so we want to live together.
1:22:45🔗DrewWhat's the nature of your disabilities?
1:22:48🔗CallerHe has frontal lobe damage, and I have things like schizophrenia, mental problems.
1:22:54🔗DrewWhat is frontal lobe damage from? Car accident or something?
1:22:57🔗CallerCar accident. And the problem is she won't let us live together, and according to law conservatorship, chooses that.
1:23:07🔗DrewYeah. Why do you think she choosing, making that choice for him?
1:23:11🔗CallerShe told me, to my face, it's because I'm not Filipino Catholic, and she even told me once, called me on the phone to say, don't sleep with my son.
1:23:22🔗AdamDon't sleep with him? Oh, she might have sex. You don't mind sleeping by her, right?
1:23:47🔗CallerI mean, I'm always being nice to her and everything, and she can be my nice most of the time, but everything else, and she'll bring up something bad.
1:23:55🔗AdamRight. All right, and how old is this guy? You're 19.
1:23:59🔗CallerHe's 28, but we're on the same maturity level because of his brain injury.
1:25:13🔗DrewYou know what I think? I think you just hang in there and manage things one day at a time. Don't look for some grand scheme to resolve this. I think your boyfriend seems to really love you. He's committed. She's in charge, but you both have a plan to wait it out. In the meantime, it seems like there's some unpleasantness here, but on a day in, day out basis, just kind of...
1:25:35🔗CallerI mean, when we first met, she's my mom, but she even got to the point...
1:26:15🔗AdamSilvally. Here's what you need to do today. Listen, Cleopatra or whatever your name is. I want you to always finish Cleopatra with or whatever your name is. It's always extra insulting with people with weird names. Say, listen, that son of yours, this guy, he's a mess. No other woman's gonna have him. Are you high? This guy's a vegetable. I'm willing to take him in.
1:26:44🔗AdamYou're waiting for some spokesmodel to come pick him up in a Mercedes? It's not gonna happen. I make him happy. I know how to please him morally. And when you've had frontal lobe damage, that is like five blowjobs.
1:27:05🔗DrewThere's actually something called a Kluivert Buzi Center where you get extra sexual when you have frontal lobe damage.
1:27:10🔗AdamWell, listen, you show a guy with frontal lobe damage, you give him one of those little sticks with a cup on the end of the ball and that's a weekend. Imagine what a BJ is. I'm just doing the math. That's all I'm saying. Do you know what I mean?
1:28:38🔗AdamI'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Monty Messex is our guest tonight. Monty is with the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles, and he is an AIDS and HIV expert.
1:28:50🔗DrewDo you want to talk about the Youth Expressions website also?
1:28:54🔗CallerWe could. Yeah, Drew and I and some other people at Children's Hospital, we've been working on a website that's around, and that we're developing to help youth build healthy relationships.
1:29:10🔗DrewIs the Dr. Coop folk going to let us link through to you? Have we talked about that yet?
1:29:15🔗DrewWe need to make sure that has, because drdrew.com is now a drcoop.com site, and if we could, our original plan was to link with the Youth Expressions, and we still want to do that.
1:29:25🔗AdamWell, what is that site? People on the Internet are not interested in having healthy relationships.
1:29:31🔗CallerSome people, we have a lot of young people and with drdrew.com, you know, there are a lot of people that have questions similar, you know, and I think the people that call in to this show, you know, are interested in...
1:29:43🔗AdamThose people aren't interested in having healthy relationships.
1:29:45🔗CallerThey're interested in, you know, they have, you know, lots of funky problems, but they're interested in trying to have healthy relationships, I think, ultimately.
1:30:06🔗CallerIt's not out yet. Hopefully in January, it'll be up. And I think Drew is going to write one of our first pieces on HIV. And we have youth contributing all sorts of artwork and stories and poetry. And it's really awesome. It's really awesome.
1:30:25🔗AdamAnd Drew, what are they paying you for that?
1:31:03🔗CallerLet's see my question. Last night, I had sex with a guy and I didn't use a condom and I just started the pill like two weeks ago and I won't have a chance to go to the clinic and get the morning after pill.
1:31:17🔗DrewSo, all right, this is a great question. So, what pill did you start two weeks ago?
1:31:26🔗DrewOh, boy. And so, they told you probably that it wouldn't be necessarily covered till the second cycle, right?
1:31:32🔗CallerOr, well, they said to take it probably like for another, when they started, they said after a week, I should be okay, but I'm kind of scared still.
1:31:40🔗DrewIt's just not for sure in that first month. Triphasic pills, a little more certain, but less.
1:31:45🔗AdamWhat about her taking a handful of those in lieu of taking a morning after pill?
1:31:50🔗DrewThat's what I'm contemplating here, is whether she should double up maybe tomorrow and keep going.
1:32:05🔗DrewWell, I mean, I'm afraid in a couple hours, don't be surprised if you do anyway. But that means you got the dose and just go ahead and just finish the packet out just the way you don't want to be taking. No, no, no, just just keep going on the packet tomorrow, okay?
1:32:17🔗CallerOkay, so I don't need to take four tomorrow. I'm good.
1:32:20🔗DrewI don't think you. Again, this is a very sort of strange application of the morning after pill, but I don't think you would need to.
1:32:27🔗AdamAll right, but wait a minute, Drew, which pills can you take in place of taking the morning after pill?
1:32:32🔗DrewA less is one of the ones you can actually. You can, but, and overall, low overall.
1:32:37🔗CallerBut you know, taking the pill won't protect you from sexually transmitted disease.
1:33:00🔗CallerMy girlfriend, and I just found out she's pregnant today. And she told me she would rather kill herself than have the baby. And she told me she'd rather kill herself than have a surgical abortion.
1:33:36🔗DrewIt's around. You need to talk to doctors certified to deliver it, but it's definitely around now. And I think Planned Parenthood is out doing it.
1:33:43🔗AdamYeah. I just passed that one in Vanna is Big Banner now with RU486, a big, big banner out front.
1:33:50🔗CallerI have an 800 number from the Planned Parenthood.
1:34:06🔗CallerThey have a website plannedparenthood.org or they have an 800 number, 800-230-PLAN.
1:34:15🔗DrewAnd what 230-PLAN does is basically refer you to a number in your area. They'll give you the specific LA number. But it sounds like she needs to sit down and have a little counseling about all this.
1:34:47🔗CallerI had two questions. First one's sort of more academic than personal, and it's for your guests mostly. I remember an AIDS researcher who was convinced that HIV did not cause AIDS and he publicly injected himself with the virus. And I was wondering if you knew what had happened to the guy if he ever got sick or anything.
1:35:06🔗CallerI don't know, but actually I was just reading an article this morning about in South Africa how a lot of their policy was based on the idea that HIV doesn't cause AIDS and then finally the president said that it does.
1:35:27🔗AdamI know a lot of you've read articles in, I don't know, Loaded Magazine or whatever Gucci Oni writes in and it would say the contrary. We're gonna take ourselves a break. We'll be back after this. Yep, that's it with Loveline. Monty, give that number out, goofball.
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