1:37🔗AdamNeat. It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-44-55. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, and it's an adult film star night. Not only is Dr. Drew with his gay porn past, but Raylene and Chandler are both here. Both on the Vivid. Both Vivid, right?
2:04🔗I'm Vivid, Raylene. She's the non-Vivid Vivid girl.
2:13🔗GuestI work for everybody, but I prefer just working for Vivid, and I'm only cutting down to like a couple movies, and they're just going to be for Vivid and Legends, so.
2:21🔗AdamWhen you get under contract, how many do you usually contract to do a year? Is it a one-year contract?
2:27🔗Well, my contract is for eight movies a year.
2:30🔗AdamYeah. Is that about the norm if you're under contract?
2:33🔗It's about, usually, I mean, you go between five and 12 movies a year, depending on how many contract girls a certain company has.
2:41🔗Right now, I think as it stands, we have eight girls. Usually, it amounts to about 12, you know, that are at the signings and everything.
2:49🔗AdamAnd how do you work your way in? See, it seems, I mean, most people think that adult film actresses do like 700 movies a year. You know, they just think they're just getting nailed nonstop constantly, like on the drive into the set, there's some guy banging them in on the drive home, and it's just nonstop screwing and filming. But eight films a year, that's not even too bad. I mean, that's not a whole lot of screwing.
3:16🔗For those that aren't under contract, I mean, they have to work every day. I mean, they don't get paid a set amount of money, like which is a big, usually a large amount per movie. They do, you know, per scene type of things, and which I did for two years. I did, I've done over 120 movies.
3:32🔗Yeah, well, not usually. Most of the contract girls get picked up right away. Really? Before they've done any movies, yeah, because that's what their marketing technique is. I mean, they have to market a new girl. I just got pretty lucky.
4:09🔗AdamAnd by the way, it wasn't considered taboo back then. It was everyone was doing it. It was no big deal. I did some gay porn in the late 70s. All right, but Drew's prime is in the late 60s. The fluffer, you know, when I was nine, gets the gay kiddie porn. Your dad do anything for a buck, won't he? The fluffer gets the guys going, you know, so that they're ready to go when the camera is on. And if it's like a one on one thing, maybe they don't really need them. But if they're doing one of these big gang bang things where the object is to have 100 or 300 guys have sex with one woman in an afternoon or an evening, well, each guy's got to show up ready to perform.
4:50🔗DrewDo they test everybody when that happens, or do they do anything to protect the girl?
5:17🔗AdamRight. I mean, on one hand, you think, what kind of dicey guy would sign up for this thing? I'd want that guy screened, so on and so forth. But another way of looking at it is, this guy ain't getting laid. I mean, if he's standing in line with his pants down, with 45 guys behind him and 111 guys in front of him with his pants down, but maybe he ain't getting as much action as you'd think.
5:40🔗DrewFor sure, but addict guys tend to behave like that, so it might be something else.
5:43🔗AdamOh, true, true. Don't bring drugs into the industry. They cleaned that up years ago. Please.
5:51🔗AdamEven them. All born again in straight arrows, I'm sure. But the point is, I want to know when the fluffer gets to them, because the fluffer can't get to them when they're number 87 in line, because first off, the fluffer... My problem with using the fluffer is I would finish with the fluffer. I wouldn't be fluffed, I'd be fluffed and folded, and I'd go home. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't know when to stop. Do you guys ever do any fluffing?
6:35🔗AdamOh, yes. Very successful. I always finish myself. But the point is, is the fluffer must start just a couple of people before they actually get to the woman. Otherwise, it's going to be too early. They got to time it right.
7:18🔗GuestNow, he directed and produced a lot of movies, but he just started a new company called Pornographics. It's doing all the art for boxes and magazines and so forth and so on.
7:42🔗AdamIt's an interesting way to meet your husband, isn't it?
7:44🔗GuestWell, he met me and then he took me out of the business because he didn't want me doing it anymore, but I jumped back in doing girls just because I really like them.
8:09🔗CallerOne movie that just came out, Devil's Black Jack, that's a fun one and Mi Vida will be out pretty soon.
8:14🔗Adam69 Hours, As Sweet As They Come, Rex Cobo, Mr. Elastic Scrotum, I think both of you were in. That's a classic. Violation of Chandler, that sounds good.
8:43🔗GuestI was really glad when I got it. Now, just to be violated because I was just so bored with everything and I just felt like I really needed to be violated to get anything seriously out of me.
10:07🔗AdamThat's right. Possibly sightless, depending on how well the fluff off went. All right. Also, there's one other thing I found interesting on Chandler's cheat sheet here. You recently got back from- where the hell were you there?
10:43🔗AdamYeah. That's Anna Mall. By the way, the subtlety is left-born because back in my day, I remember Buffy Davis. Now, Buffy Davis, I didn't even know who Buffy Davis was named after till I really thought about it one day. It's Buffy Davis from Family Affair.
11:04🔗AdamBuffy is Buffy Davis. There's another guy named Frank James. I'd never thought about either until I thought about Jesse James' brother was Frank James. This is the great minds that used to have in porn. It was very intricate. You know what I mean? They made you work a little. My favorite one, huge black guy named FM. Bradley.
11:33🔗AdamField Marshal Bradley, there's a vehicle named after him, a fighting vehicle. Now, it's all just Come a Bang Me or something. You guys got to get more of these historical names going. You know what I mean? Why don't you work on that? Sure.
11:59🔗AdamWell, I'm going to think of, I don't know, Bend Over Franklin or something. I mean, I could probably figure some out. Lincoln Logger. You'll probably figure something out. The point is, here's the best. The best porn names are ones you don't get the first time around, like FM. Bradley. Don't know what the hell that was until I really started. Then I realized it was Field Marshall Bradley and then I watch enough History Channel and you learn how it works. Joe?
12:41🔗CallerAnd he doesn't know like, I kind of want to cure it like without that stuff you buy at the store, if there's any other cheaper or better way.
12:49🔗DrewBecause you don't want to spend the money?
12:50🔗CallerNo, because I heard it like can mess you up besides do that.
12:53🔗DrewAre you talking about Lortremen, the cream?
13:03🔗DrewAll right, get some Lortremen cream. If it doesn't go away, you got to see a dermatologist. The coach is not trained to diagnose rashes, okay?
13:08🔗AdamYeah, but who has seen more rashes over the last 25 years?
13:12🔗DrewIf he had said inguinal, testicular rash or something, it's okay.
16:00🔗She's denied it. For the past year, I kept on trying to go to counseling. I tried to listen to her guys' show and talked about certain Zoloft Prozac Boost Bar.
16:12🔗DrewWhich, by the way, all that's going to make your sex problems worse.
16:21🔗DrewBut there are alternatives, like serotonin remeron and wellbutrin, that are quite effective without and may even stimulate, substantially, her sex drive and bring things back to normal.
16:30🔗AdamCan't you women just hold still for a few minutes, twice a week? You really don't have to do that much. You know what I'm saying?
16:39🔗DrewYou know what, Adam, interesting point. The whole issue of receptivity for a woman is actually a biological process. It's largely estrogen driven. And the depression shuts all that down, so they're not receptive.
16:52🔗DrewIt's not even just that they don't want to do it. They can't receive. They're not that open to it.
16:56🔗AdamWell listen, I was depressed for many years and I never wanted to go to work. I got up in the morning and I'd be like, oh, I do not want to go to work. It's 105 degrees, I'm working in Van Nuys, swinging a hammer. This sucks. But you know what? I'd just go to work because I realize the boss is going to be pissed if I don't show up.
17:14🔗DrewThink about how you scream about how you hate those people and everybody who's involved with that.
17:19🔗AdamOkay, that's, no, I don't blame them, Drew. I'm going to kill them, but I don't blame them. But I'm saying she knows she's depressed, she knows all of this is going on, and she knows poor Charlie's out here blowing in the wind for six months at a time. She ought to just realize what she's going through and just hold her ass still for a week, once a week, and let Charlie take care of business.
17:39🔗DrewYou know how I never talk about the book we wrote?
17:41🔗DrewI wrote a book about depression and relationships. I never talked about it. It's called Restoring Intimacy. All the proceeds for it go to the National Depressive and Manic Depressive Association. You can get it on the web at Amazon, and it talks about some amazing professionals contributed to this thing. It talks about how important it is to hang in a relationship when your partner's got depression and what kinds of things you need to watch out for.
18:04🔗DrewShe's got to get better. Postpartum depression can be life threatening. It's a profound depression. And your kid needs her to be available. Having a depressed mom is actually a damaging psychological circumstance.
18:14🔗Dr. Drew, there's been times she's been afraid that she got so angry she might hit the baby.
18:22🔗She just went to the doctor last month and he got her on Zoloft. And she said lately she's been in a better mood. But also she hasn't given me sex because her reason is saying that she don't want to resent me because she's given it up.
18:34🔗DrewZoloft shuts her down further. To see but adding Will Butrin to the Zoloft.
18:38🔗AdamCharlie, did anything ever happen to her? Anyone do anything to her?
18:41🔗No. She's had a father and mother. Everything's great.
18:43🔗AdamAll right. Hey, Charlie, listen to me. You got to take charge for your kid's sake. You'll be the man. You straighten her out. I'm not talking about hold her down, have sex with her. I'm talking about saying, listen, honey, you're depressed. This has gone on long enough. You either take care of business or I'm going to take some action.
19:02🔗CallerI just did that. That's why she went to the doctor.
19:04🔗DrewWell, she needs to see a psychiatrist. A general doctor shouldn't be managing something this severe.
19:17🔗AdamNowadays, any large corporation, any professional team, football, baseball, basketball, they all have psychologists because they have people that are-
19:28🔗AdamSpecial needs. That is such a great idea. Whether you're an athlete or a porn star, you're kind of- you're running pretty close to breaking at any moment now.
19:42🔗DrewNo, no. I was the regional addiction medicine person.
19:45🔗AdamYeah. They realize that- Oh, yeah. Spend a few bucks and save a few bucks. Give Drew a few bucks and keep a few guys out of rehab or from self-destructing or getting thrown in jail. I would like to do some porn therapy.
20:01🔗GuestWell, they've got, through AIM, they've got some kind of counseling, I guess. AIM? I saw it on the fly, Adult Industry Medical. It's like where everybody gets tested. I don't know.
20:10🔗AdamYou know that? Change the name of that to DOC. AIM just sounds like someone's going to lose an ass.
20:17🔗GuestWell, it stands for- It's like an abbreviation.
20:20🔗DrewThey had to get rid of- They couldn't be SAG.
20:21🔗CallerIt's a great place to take care of us there.
20:24🔗AdamA little too limp. We're in SAG. That's like everyone's dragging something, dragging apart. I guess we could be in LIMP.
20:35🔗AdamYou remember SAG or LIMP. So AIM tries to take care of the physical stuff.
20:41🔗GuestYeah, they've got all kinds of programs that you can get into.
20:46🔗AdamYou know what the next step is? Because the porn industry is becoming more and more legitimate. I mean, it used to be a real dark alley kind of thing. Now people are getting contracts, people are getting tested. It's become very... Structured. Yeah, well, I was mainstream. I was going to say almost... I predict years from now there will be a retirement home for old porn stars.
21:30🔗AdamIt would be a big bronze statue of Ron Jeremy out front holding the vibrator or something and some sort of Latin inscription on the door that loosely translates into welcome sluts or something. I haven't worked out all the details on it yet.
21:53🔗AdamI should open. Okay, so what do I got to do? I got to open one of these old age homes for retirement homes for porn stars and become the porn psychologist.
22:02🔗GuestYeah. See, we're set. And then you can write a book.
22:05🔗AdamNow, I'm not doing it for me. I'm not doing it for profit. I'm doing it because I love the industry and I want to see what's going on. And I want my kids and their kids to enjoy pornography.
23:01🔗AdamBut if I can get in and start providing some much needed therapy for some of these folks, maybe we could extend the average life span.
23:07🔗CallerThose of us who lead normal lives will live longer.
23:11🔗DrewYou got to get the AIM program in first, then you get the old folks home.
23:15🔗AdamAll right. All right. Raylene and Chandler are both here, both adult film stars. I had to have some websites and stuff. I should give those out when we come back and you can look them up and see what you're in for. We'll take a little break. We'll be back after this.
23:33🔗DrewWith Adam Crowell and Dr. Drew, we'll be right back before you know it.
24:01🔗AdamOh, boy. Phone number 1-800-LE-VE-191, fax number 311. I'll forget about that. I'm Adam, that is Dr. Drew, Raylene and Chandler, both here, both adult film stars, at least for the time being until Drew can talk them out of it. Jesus Christ, you suck the sex right out of the room, like some sort of sex dust buster. Shut up, Drew. Drew, all grilling the girls, all commercial really, being objectified that way in the very aggressive, very aggressive industry. And do your parents know what's going on over there? And what about Jesus Christ? Do you ever feel that he's, there's the grip and the key grip, a gaffer, cameraman, director, but what about Jesus? Is he on set? I think he is.
25:24🔗CallerI will be at the Sparement Rhinow in the City of Industry at the end of February around the 19th time and in the middle of March, I will be at Golden Eyes in Arcadia.
25:47🔗AdamNow, how does it work? How do you make money? They pay a little something and see what they want to see? Do they get a little sample at the beginning?
25:54🔗CallerAt vividvideo.com, I'm pretty sure you become a member, which is totally worth it.
26:12🔗AdamWell, that's one, unless I could get the computer in the car somehow, but I'd have to work that out while I was driving. But here's the way I would look at it. I like to masturbate and I'm cheap. So let me explain how that would translate. I would pay the $62 a month to be part of this whatever, and then I would break it down. Well, if I whack off once a month while watching this porn on computer, it's $64 worth of whack. On the other hand, if I whack off 128 times, it's 50 cents a whack. And I would just keep doing the math until I got it down to about a quarter a whack. You know what I'm saying? That's funny. And then I would probably end up dying. Dehydrate and find me in front of the computer.
27:04🔗AdamI mean, the point is, if I paid the $64, I couldn't go to Europe for vacation for two weeks because that'd be $32 down the drain. I have to come home, masturbate, and then go back to Europe again. Right, Drew?
27:16🔗AdamAll right. So let me give the websites. Well, there's the www.vividvideo.com, and Chandler has hers at www.chandlerxxx.com. So that's chandlerxxx.com. Oh, it's not available yet though, is it?
27:35🔗GuestNo, I'm in the process of building it. I'm going to have a really, really cool site, and guys will enjoy whacking to it all the time, and girls will too. Yeah.
28:07🔗CallerOkay, I've been going out with my boyfriend since March, and we got pregnant right away, and I had a miscarriage. And my parents sent me over to Europe for three months to get my head on straight and stuff. And this past Sunday, he told me while I was over there that he slept with one of my friends. And this girl, I mean, I'm not going to call her white trash because I don't want to insult the white trash people. But I need to know what to do, and I don't know what to do.
29:45🔗AdamAnd now, you say you went to Ireland to get your head screwed on straight because of this guy, but you say while you were gone, he had sex with one of your friends.
29:53🔗CallerYeah. And he just told me this past Sunday and...
29:55🔗AdamAll right. But listen, why were you so whacked out with him before he had sex with your friend? Because he only had sex with your friend after you went to Ireland.
30:03🔗CallerRight. And he didn't tell me. And I didn't know when I came back.
30:08🔗DrewWasn't the idea of you going to Ireland to be away from him so you wouldn't continue that relationship?
30:16🔗AdamBut, Ace, Ms. Screwball? Yeah? I'm asking, what was the major trouble before that caused you to go to Ireland to get your head screwed on straight? Well, she had the pregnancy, but...
30:40🔗AdamMan, I know the white trash people are laughing at Lisa. You can't buy intelligence, can you? Hey, listen, goofball. Why is your family so dead set against you two being together?
30:52🔗CallerBecause they don't like him because of what happened.
31:26🔗AdamBut they check out. They're not there for her. So what does she do? Well, she does what's going to drive them the most crazy. She hooks up with the idiot, poor guy, white trash guy, troublemaker guy, immediately gets pregnant, and immediately the family, by the way, mysteriously enough, knows everything. Guess what? Guy knocked me up and had a miscarriage.
32:32🔗CallerWell, she didn't raise me right off the bat. I mean, she gave me to my father to raise me because she went through major post-depression after I was born and stuff.
32:43🔗DrewAll right. See, we have some big time abandonment issues. Of course. Then what do they do to deal with your crisis when you're the most acting out of vulnerable?
32:54🔗DrewThey check out. They abandon you again. They send you to Europe.
32:56🔗AdamRight. This guy, I know you think you really, really love him, but I think the fact that you're really... And Lisa, remember this conversation because you're going to look back at it in 10 years and realize we're all 100% right.
33:12🔗AdamWe always are. And it doesn't mean you can do anything about it, but we're right here. The reason you're so attracted to this guy is because...
33:20🔗AdamYou're so pissed at your mom and somewhat at your dad for letting your mom do what she did and this guy will drive them nuts. They hate this guy and as well they should, I'm sure.
33:31🔗DrewTry to think in terms of finding a relationship that's better for you. This guy is not the solution to your problems, even though you think he is.
33:43🔗AdamNo, but all the anger you have toward her is really... I mean, let's face it, you went away to Ireland for an indefinite period of time when you guys broke up and he banged whoever else was in the neighborhood. And be mad at him, by the way, too.
34:16🔗AdamYeah, hey, honey, stand back. I'm going to kill her. Do you know what Drew's wife would do to Drew if this situation happened, if Drew had sex with one of her friends? She would walk right past that friend, go right to your scrotum with a pitchfork, a chainsaw.
34:34🔗CallerThat's what porno girls look good for. None of us are jealous.
34:37🔗GuestYeah, see, I usually tend to, like, my ex would cheat on me and I would just sleep with the girl, you know, if he's going to sleep with her so long.
34:45🔗CallerAnd I'm going to get some, we have to get some. That's the whole...
34:49🔗AdamThis is, you guys should write a book, you really should, or do a PSA. That's what you should do. Forget about condoms. Let's talk about psychology. Man cheats on you, you go down on his girlfriend. Exactly. All right. I know we got to take a break here, but let's squeeze in Lou here. Lou?
35:09🔗CallerI just have a question for your guest, and then one for Dr. Drew. I wanted to know if all the women in porn are bisexual, and I wanted to ask Drew if the recent bisexuality amongst women being in vogue is a direct result of what goes on in these porno tapes.
35:30🔗DrewYou want to settle now or wait till after the break?
35:41🔗AdamAll right. We're going to take a little break, then we'll get back. We'll get with Lou. We'll talk a little more about the adult industry and get to the bottom of the bisexuality after this.
35:58🔗CallerLoveline will be right back. Well, here's how it's sample.
36:32🔗AdamIt's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. This is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Chandler and Raylene are both here, both in the adult film industry, both slowly backing themselves out of the industry as they get saner and saner as the years wear on. I don't want to sound like another one of Drew's, but we've never ran into anybody in this industry that didn't have the same past, or at least something close. Dad had to be either bad or out of the picture early. That's the only way it works out in this business.
37:08🔗DrewUsually a second hit somewhere right after that, too.
37:11🔗AdamIt's, yeah, Raylene, your dad passed away when you were...
37:15🔗CallerMy father died when I was nine years old from cancer.
37:28🔗AdamThat's not so bad. Well, that's why you're not... See, it's funny, because both of you are, like, you know, probably more screwed up a couple years ago than you are now.
37:40🔗AdamAnd I think the saner you get, the further you get away from the industry.
37:47🔗GuestOnce you figure out all your problems and issues in life that you couldn't really figure out before, yeah, you tend to stray away from it and realize that you're not as...
37:56🔗CallerI mean, it's a stepping ladder to start yourself in a different direction. I mean, we have so many opportunities in this industry to do other things, like as far as camera work and things like that. So, like, once you do realize where you're going, you have that opportunity sitting in front of you.
38:10🔗AdamWell, what about, like, dancing? Like, if you just went to a club and wanted to dance and you just got off the bus, you would make much less than you would if you went as an adult film star, right?
38:56🔗AdamYeah. I think in this day and age, and listen, it's like, honey, you're dancing around, your panties are off, you weren't stiletto heels. There's guys throwing rolled up tens at your crotch. Come on. You're open. At least you wouldn't call the girl prudish. I mean, you could probably talk her into doing something bi.
39:16🔗CallerWell, you know what? Chandler and I have lots of luck changing girls.
39:19🔗GuestA lot. I don't know what it is with me.
39:21🔗CallerI don't know what it is with me either.
39:48🔗GuestI've always known since I was a little girl that I've liked girls. It's been that way. But I came across porno and adult magazines that are really, really early age and was just like, I know I like girls, and it just happens.
40:06🔗AdamIt's as if you've become some poster child for every one of Drew's porno-related theories. Yeah. I got to have dad skip out or die or get it. Just get out of the picture. Got to come across some pornography. Got to have some experiences.
40:42🔗DrewBut the history, the picture that we painted already of our guests is a recipe for bisexuality. I mean, that's what creates those sorts of sexual issues.
40:52🔗AdamWell, and certainly open and accelerated sexuality. But let me ask you guys, obviously, do all women have to perform bisexual stuff?
41:02🔗GuestNo. There's a lot of girls that choose not to. But then there's a lot of girls that will do it for the money. So.
41:08🔗AdamBut are, okay. So there's a certain percentage of women in the business who will not do lesbian stuff.
41:22🔗AdamRight. Okay. So that's, that's almost neither here nor there. But then there's another percentage that isn't really bi. They're just doing it because that's what the script says and they're getting paid to do what the script says, right? Now what percentage do you think are just doing it because it's in the script?
41:37🔗CallerThat would be like another two percent, most of them.
41:52🔗AdamWell, you got that velvety tongue that magically converts all women into bisexuals. It's not just that. Well, tongue and thumb, I don't know what else to say. I'm not sure what women like down there. But the point is, it's got to be more than that. I mean, it can't be every woman in porn is bisexual. It's got to be 30, 40 percent that aren't, that just do it. Don't you think so?
42:18🔗GuestWell, some girls come in that aren't or didn't know that they were, and they start doing it for the money and realize that they like girls too.
42:25🔗AdamAll right. So in all the movies and experiences you've had in the industry, you've never had sex with a woman who was not really into it, just doing it.
42:36🔗CallerYeah. We've done it by accident. Now we're very careful not to. Yeah, I make sure I say that. We work with the ones that really do like girls.
42:42🔗AdamYeah, because otherwise it's kind of a weird scene.
42:44🔗CallerYeah, and you want it to be a rockin scene.
42:46🔗AdamRight. And no one's that good an actor or actress, right?
43:17🔗AdamNo, because not enough women watch adult movies to affect the country that way. But it certainly probably makes up a small percentage of it.
43:28🔗DrewIt influences, but there's a whole bunch of issues coming to bear. I mean, it's the issues of all the aggression and abandonment issues we've been talking about tonight that get converted into sexual energies and bad boundaries and therefore there's sort of confusion about sexual identity that's very common and then sort of a social push for women to experiment. There's some sort of momentum with that now and I don't think this is where it comes from.
43:49🔗AdamAll right, who are you guys more into, me or Drew?
44:17🔗GuestI'm marrying the guy that I am because there's just something between us I can't explain but I'm like 98% lesbian. But I love him a lot and things are great.
44:39🔗AdamBut listen. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Listen, I love Drew. Yeah. Doesn't mean we're getting married anytime soon. I don't. Now listen, listen.
44:49🔗GuestI don't have much in common with anybody else.
44:50🔗AdamWe have a lot in common. Oh, who cares? Common.
44:57🔗AdamHow you can't get married at 98% lesbian. They won't even grant you a marriage license. If you're over 95% lesbian in most states, except for Nevada, they will not grant you a license.
45:58🔗GuestMeetings and listening to people bring up all those things because I know exactly what they're talking about. It gets me really emotional and I'll sit there and cry. And so until I'm ready to go to meetings and not be a big baby and cry the whole time, I'll go.
46:13🔗DrewYou're supposed to connect with those feelings and you've got to get a sponsor and then work through them.
46:17🔗DrewWe're not going to let this marriage go down. Here's the problem with an abstinent and a sober. Both use. Always. Always. If one is sober and one is abstinent, they both relapse. Always. That's not true. That's a medical fact.
46:31🔗GuestWe've had major reasons to make us quit though. All right.
46:35🔗DrewEither both you get sober and then it goes on or both you will use.
46:59🔗AdamShut up, Drew. I'll tell you what. Listen, do not get married. Drew, you set up an intervention or something during the break. We'll come back and figure out what direction the show is going after this.
48:07🔗AdamIt is Loveline and Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Raylene and Chandler are both in here tonight, both at least full-time or part-time Vivid. Girls in the adult film industry, you can find them if you go on vivid.com, vividvideo.com. Are both of you on there?
49:24🔗AdamNo, he was just piping up. He wanted to go home. He wanted to get the videos and just go home. I told him we had to finish the rest of the show. Now, he's pouting. And drooling, I think. All right. So, what the hell? Where were we? All right. So, what do we figure out? Chandler's got to do the steps and can't get married. That's what we figured out.
50:22🔗CallerYes. What's up? I have a comment and also a question. Actually, two questions. My first thing is, I used to be a dancer and I was in it for about three and a half years now, but I just got out of it because I realized that as a black woman, I didn't feel as if it was too inviting as a black woman. Do you understand what I'm saying?
50:47🔗CallerNo. I mean, no. I was very, I was myself. I was nice. I spoke to people and I got along really well with people, but on the whole, on the average, I just didn't feel as if it was very welcoming to me. And so after a while, I just.
51:06🔗AdamWhat do you mean though as a black woman?
51:08🔗CallerWell, the reason why I say that is because, like for instance, first of all, I heard a lot of racial comments. You know, I've danced in DC and in Virginia and in Phoenix and a little bit in California too. And just all throughout the places, I've heard all kinds of racial comments.
51:31🔗DrewWe just have to accept that she didn't feel good.
51:38🔗DrewAll right, what else? What else can we add?
51:39🔗CallerOkay. So anyway, what I want to say is, okay, I've been out of it now for a year. I have no desire to go back into it. And I had that father thing go out of my life when he was early too. My question is, I feel as if I put closure over this Christmas vacation. I put closure there.
51:58🔗DrewOver the loss of your dad, the abandonment?
52:00🔗CallerOver the abandonment, because he would actually use religion to try to excuse himself for his behavior and saying that, well, the Bible said, always honor thy father and mother, and I shouldn't. Yeah, and so that's basically it. And finally, I felt like I had the courage to tell him, you know, I don't really need you. I don't need you in my life anymore. And I said that, and you know, I was a little shaken up. That was the first time I had ever said anything like that to him, and now I feel like I put the closure, but I don't.
52:29🔗DrewThat is not closure. That is just opening the door to beginning the process of getting over what he's done to you. That is just, that is the beginning.
52:54🔗AdamOK, so you confronted your father. Good. You got out of dancing. Good. And now what?
53:00🔗CallerNo, that was, I just wanted to know if I have to go to therapy because I don't, even though I said that there was closure, I didn't feel it.
53:14🔗AdamThis happened to me once. You know, as it turns out, I didn't say it loud enough. See, sometimes you got to go, I felt like I had closure. And then, then it turns out it works. So you kept saying closure.
53:27🔗DrewNo, to get at, to get at those very, very, very delicate, painful feelings of abandonment takes a lot of work. And you need an intimate connection with another person to tolerate those feelings. You just won't get, your brain won't let you get at them just by yourself. You've instituted some behaviors that help you get near those sorts of things. But you really do need to do some work.
53:48🔗AdamAll right. She, all right, well she's on the right track.
53:52🔗DrewShe's on the right track. And it's interesting how, as she's created some change, the drive to go do the dancing goes away. She doesn't want it anymore.
54:07🔗That's what I want to know. I left my husband about six months ago. I mean, six weeks ago. And since then, I've talked to and met about six or seven guys on the Internet.
55:17🔗AdamThere we go. Always a bad sign when adults are squatting with adults. Family members, we talk to these people and they're always like, his cousin Earl and Hubie, they moved in with their two, Dottie and Fran. It's like, what? What? I wouldn't let- Listen, when my dad comes over, he has to wait outside.
55:41🔗DrewWhen your sister came back to this country, you got pissed off.
55:43🔗AdamShe has to sit out in the yard. Yeah. I don't mind letting her in, but I'm scared she's not going to leave. So I don't want to take that chance. But what?
55:52🔗DrewWell, here's the other story. In this most simplistic sort of way to look at her problem, she got bipolar illness, grandiosity, and making sort of rapid impulsive changes, and getting involved in lots of relationships as part of your disease. Make sure you're being properly evaluated on the right medication, and maybe you'll make some better choices.
56:12🔗AdamOh, yes, yes. And don't just have indiscriminate sex on the Internet, especially when you're not getting paid, right, ladies?
56:28🔗DrewIt's so easy. Do you ever spend time on chats?
56:30🔗CallerYou know what? I have never done that.
56:32🔗DrewOnce you do it a little while, it's like, whoa. It's such a clear sort of... I don't want to use the word intimate, but I understand now why women are upset about when guys carry on.
56:42🔗AdamYou don't want to use intimate because you're wimeless?
56:44🔗CallerI don't think it's like the safest thing in the world to meet guys on the internet either.
56:47🔗GuestNo, I have a friend, he's a guy, and he's got this bad habit of getting blowjobs from chicks that he meets on the internet.
56:56🔗DrewYahoo Personals, where they have a dating service, it has a whole bunch of rules and things that you need to follow in order to do it in a healthy way, and I want to try to expand on that.
57:40🔗CallerI heard, I was listening to Loveline, I think it was like a few weeks ago, and I heard a guy call in, and he was talking with Dr. Drew, and he had mentioned that his wife still sleeps with a stuffed animal, and Drew expressed some really negativity, like there's some sort of taboo with women who sleep with him.
58:02🔗DrewWhich is something I observed when I first started working in psychiatric hospitals, which was many, many years ago, and I've not been disappointed in this sign ever since, is that it is a sign, at least insofar as people get admitted to psychiatric hospital, of a certain kind of personality disorder.
58:19🔗CallerOkay. Because I do, I'm, you know, I'm 19 and I still do sleep with my stuffed animal.
59:17🔗AdamNow, listen, here's the scary part. If he was mounting the thing and violating it, it'd be all right with it. That's all right. He has a few beers. All right, what are you going to do? But if he's just cuddling with it, that's trouble.
59:29🔗DrewIt's just a hamper in the shape of a dog.
59:31🔗AdamYeah, dog shape hamper, sure. I would just cut the tail off for easy access. Hey, Elizabeth. Yeah. What kind of guy is he?
59:44🔗CallerWell, I know his mom is like Satan. There's no better word for it.
59:49🔗DrewAll right, so he's got some problems. That sort of supports my theory.
59:52🔗CallerYeah, he's got some problems. And he knows he's got some problems.
1:01:13🔗CallerI'm in college. I'm in college out of state, but I'm home right now for Christmas.
1:01:19🔗AdamAll right. See if you can get this guy, you can wean him off Snoopy.
1:01:24🔗DrewOh, yeah. I bet you she can get off her animals too.
1:01:28🔗CallerSo what if you sleep with stuffed animals just sometimes?
1:01:32🔗GuestYeah. I sleep with my duck-billed platypus when I'm not sleeping with my boyfriend, and sometimes I sleep with my pillow. Yeah.
1:01:38🔗CallerI hold my pillow all night long. It's like something for me to hold because I always sleep alone, so unless I'm in Denver, I don't sleep alone there.
1:02:39🔗AdamI know, but I don't think it will ever catch on with guys.
1:02:41🔗CallerI've always been, since I was five years old, I thought there was something wrong with me. I'm like, oh my God, my mom's going to be mad at me.
1:03:23🔗GuestYeah, because like my friend had some and she smoked some, and she got really sick and she couldn't breathe. And it was like, she said there was purple hair in it.
1:03:53🔗AdamYou know, you get high times, don't you?
1:03:55🔗GuestWell, it was just the cannabis cup and they do have certain kind that's grown and like they have all different kinds. But anyways, there's some that has purple hairs.
1:04:05🔗GuestThe cannabis cup over in Amsterdam. They have like a big judging of all the, that was my blowout and I'm done. But anyways, they've got these, it's bud with purple hairs. But it shouldn't really get you sick like that. Oh yeah.
1:04:21🔗GuestYeah. I have a second question though.
1:04:23🔗AdamAll right. Hey, you know what? Next time, instead of smoking it, she should enter it in the cannabis cup. Take home a nice blue ribbon for folks put up on the mail.
1:05:07🔗GuestYes. I have a good relationship and all that. I've never been abandoned by anyone, and I've never been sexually abused or anything like that.
1:06:21🔗AdamWhat I mean by created in the lab is dad splits early, neighbor comes over and molests them, and magically everyone's a lesbian now. But that's more created lesbian.
1:06:32🔗CallerI've never been molested. I'm pretty much dead.
1:06:34🔗AdamNow your dad died when you were young.
1:07:08🔗GuestBut we were watching their parents through the door and we'd go in the room and take each other's clothes off and simulate and things just happen.
1:07:23🔗CallerYeah, the girl that started with me, she started it, but I didn't back off.
1:07:26🔗DrewWhen you're exposed to sexual material. Yeah, but a kid doesn't know to back off. He just keeps going to go with it just like any other interaction. When you're exposed to sexual material, kids then usually are enticed to exploring that, and their brain hasn't developed the point to be able to manage what all that is yet. So it becomes something that later on becomes a source of a good deal of energy.
1:07:46🔗AdamLet me ask Rick a good question here. Rick has one. Rick?
1:09:02🔗AdamOh. Once every 19 months, Drue gets a ray, I was going to say, of good radio. He thinks, wait a minute, instead of reading, eating popcorn, and banging into my mic with my coffee mug, we can actually do some good radio. That's good, Drew. That's a good thought. No, you're right. All right. I'll tell you what we're going to do. You guys have eaten more females than most women will in a lifetime, right? Mm-hmm. I mean, you guys have been around plenty of Tang, right?
1:09:44🔗DrewWait, well, that's more than more soccer team males will in a lifetime.
1:09:48🔗AdamRight. I mean, combined, if we took the minutes that you guys have been down there together and I combined it, it'd be like six months, continuously.
1:10:04🔗AdamSo, and you know as a woman what women like, and you've had it done to you, and you've performed on women's, because I want to get to the bottom of this. See, here's my technique.
1:10:18🔗AdamYeah. You have to eat. No, no, no. I don't even want to get, I don't want to hear any answers yet. Don't give me any emotional crap about enjoying it or living in the moment. I want physical, physical technique, all right? All right. Well, let's see. I'm going to get some paper towels and moisten them so we have something to practice on. We'll be back after this.
1:10:44🔗CallerThis is Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. We'll be right back.
1:11:17🔗AdamThere's the loveline of Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Raylene and Chandler are both here tonight, both in the adult film industry, well, with the Vivid videos, and you can check them out on vividvideo.com. Raylene has done such films as sweet as they come in 69 hours. Chandler has done Devil's Black Jack and of course, the violation of Chandler with the very controversial enol scene. So when we left off, we're about to talk to our two experts who are bisexual at least, about what women want orally. What is it? What is the technique? You've given it, you've received it, what have we got there?
1:12:12🔗CallerJust eat it like you like it. Look, feel for the hard spot. Use your fingers.
1:12:20🔗GuestIt's different with all girls, but you got to use your tongue and the fingers at the same time.
1:13:15🔗AdamNo, those are my positions I try to stay away from. The nose in the ass position, you know? That's not my cup of tea. I like to work the nose around the other side, you know? But you put, so you're saying, do the hands, do the digits and do the tongue.
1:14:16🔗AdamI don't like to get the book, Drew, because it turns into a medical thing, and I don't like it. I want it to be a sexual thing. If, let's just say, let's say there's no hair down there. Okay?
1:14:28🔗AdamAnd you get to the, and you start, you start going, let's say there's no hair down there, and you start going down your belly, from your belly button till you get.
1:14:40🔗AdamAnd then you make a right? No, you just stay there?
1:14:43🔗CallerYou just stay there and eventually lift up the area.
1:14:46🔗AdamAll right, but how far down, how far down on the average would you say it is from the top of the vagina when it begins? It's that much, no, it's further down than that.
1:15:42🔗AdamYou just push it. I got to apologize to some ladies. A lot of the ladies. I really do. You sure it's not down here around the midway point?
1:15:59🔗AdamGet the picture. Listen, the way do you see this picture of this vagina, I think I'm going to be proven right. It's been a total indication for me.
1:16:05🔗GuestThe girls you were ever with are really stupid for not pointing it out, too.
1:16:08🔗AdamYeah, they should have said something. Well, most of them are Vietnamese hokas. They couldn't...
1:16:14🔗GuestGirls that fake orgasms are really stupid, too.
1:16:16🔗CallerI always point them in the right direction.
1:16:18🔗GuestYou have to, because what's the point of having sex if you're not going to get off?
1:16:21🔗AdamExactly. All right. Let's talk to... Okay. So then stick around the clitoris, right? What about the areas around the clitoris?
1:16:27🔗GuestWell, some girls don't like it too much right there because it's just too much to handle. So you got to figure out what they want and work it gently. And if she wants more, go more, if she likes it.
1:16:39🔗CallerYeah. Sometimes if you lick under the ear...
1:16:42🔗AdamAll right. Well, she's lying on her back there, Drew, in this picture. But here's what I'm saying. I'm saying right where the skin... Right where it first starts to head north and south at the top. You know what I'm saying? Well, I mean, yeah, but she's a lot... No, no. Wait a minute.
1:16:58🔗GuestLook. See how the skin... It goes up to right about there. You can rub all up here and there because the actual...
1:17:23🔗AdamAll right. All right. So tongue in the opening, tongue underneath, and then the clitoris...
1:17:29🔗CallerYou just go from the bottom all the way up and down and up. And see, that feels really good when you do that.
1:17:34🔗AdamHere's what I'm saying, though. I'm saying the skin starts parting up here. I'm saying it's an inch and a half. That's not a quarter inch. Come on, seriously. I won't look, but when you run to the bathroom and look on yourself, would you?
1:18:19🔗CallerIt's like an inch long. Or maybe shorter, depending on how big or small the girl's punani is.
1:18:26🔗AdamWow. All right. I really got to start. I got to start concentrating. No more talking when I'm down there. That's my problem. I'm always chatting.
1:18:34🔗GuestYou need to stop. See if your mouth was full, you wouldn't have any room to talk.
1:19:03🔗CallerActually, I got a couple of questions in one, but it all comes down to one thing. The question I have is, I was in a serious relationship with a woman for about a year, and during that year, she introduced me to anal stimulation, inserting things, and so forth.
1:19:38🔗AdamHey, hold on, Ken. Did they give you a little extra, a little hands-for-this-duty pay? Duty pay. You know what I mean when you're doing a porn movie? I mean, you get a little bump?
1:19:54🔗AdamNo, I know what I mean is you guys, you know, you never talk about money, but seriously, if you're doing a movie and the director pulls you aside and goes, listen, we got to get some anal in here. I know it wasn't part of the original plan, but we need some anal.
1:20:07🔗GuestIf he really needs it, you ask for more money.
1:20:37🔗AdamAll right. So now you like stuff in you? Well, yeah.
1:20:40🔗CallerWell, I wouldn't say that I really enjoyed, but it was something that I enjoyed with her. It was something that felt good, something I enjoyed with her.
1:20:49🔗CallerWell, I've always been open to all kinds of different things, and she one day, we had like a jelly dung that I would use on her while I was performing oral on her, and one day she got the idea to use it on me. So.
1:21:50🔗CallerAnd it's something that I grew to enjoy with her, and it's something we started doing regularly. She broke up with me about four months ago, and I haven't seen anybody else since or anything. One thing that she did very well, probably the best I've ever had, was she was very good on top. And since we've broken up, whenever I masturbate to actually get myself in the mood, I have to imagine her on top of me, and...
1:23:09🔗AdamThere's only 300 examples issued. And once they stop production, they're breaking all the mold. So it will be a collector's item. Yes, I'm sorry, Ken. Go ahead.
1:23:18🔗CallerOh, that's okay. So the question I have is, is this something that I'm... I've talked to a couple of close friends about this, of course, because I'm not going to go around telling anybody.
1:23:39🔗GuestYou've just found another way to stimulate yourself.
1:23:42🔗AdamHere's the problem. And it's quite, frankly, what I'm worried about sexually, too, is getting the bar raised a little too high, and then the party ends. You know what I mean? This chick comes over. She brings the big jelly doughnuts. She starts putting that up the anus. Everything's great. She's on top. She's going nuts. Then you break up. Now, what do you got?
1:24:03🔗AdamYeah, and she's got... And you got ammo in your ass, and you're used to this certain level of sexuality, and there's no way you're going to find that. So now fast forward three weeks. You're on the floor. You're sitting on top of this thing. You're crying. You've licked your finger, and you're rubbing your nipple. There's a picture of your mom out. Oh, God.
1:24:27🔗AdamIt's true. I know how this guy operates now. Oh, boy. That's why. For me, it's just straight missionary. We're going to take a little break, and we'll come back. We'll get to the bottom of the rest of this. We're on Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew over there. Raylene and Chandler are both here tonight. They're representing the adult film industry, both Vivid Gals and you can see them if you log on to the vividvideo.com. I don't know how much it is a month, but it's a pittance. For the price of one hooker a month, you could tune into this. That's the way I like to look at things. All right, so where the hell were we? Getting back to the phones. Tim?
1:25:52🔗CallerWhat's up? I'm just like Sam, really nervous, so I just want to go through this slowly if that's okay. I haven't had sex in over three years. I'm looking to get back into it, and I want to film it primarily for training purposes, but I'm going to turn to Drew to find out if that's a euphemism for something more deep.
1:26:13🔗DrewWe're already reaching for our wallets.
1:26:25🔗CallerI stopped having sex just to have sex, and I set my sights on upper echelon females like yourselves. I've had a few nibbles, but in essence, most of the girls I've asked have said no.
1:26:42🔗AdamYou're like Jaime from Get Smart. What's up with you, brother? What do you mean? Well, you're like, I haven't had sex in three years. I decided to set my sights on upper echelon women.
1:26:56🔗AdamI've had a few nibbles. For the most part, it was a negative experience. I intend on filming my experiences so that I may learn. I will use my- That's right, 2001. I will use this sex video as a training template.
1:27:53🔗AdamYeah, I know. You just got a sense of humor. I understand. Listen, if someone said to me, you ever banged any farm animals? I wouldn't give them a straight answer. No.
1:28:04🔗CallerThere's one other question that I have. It's hard to just go up to great-looking girls and try and propose this. I'm wondering, I also want to consider maybe hiring out.
1:28:16🔗AdamHey, Tim, here's the real question. Forget about you bagging a good-looking woman. The real question is why you're 30 years old. How come you can't establish a connection?
1:28:33🔗AdamOkay. Well, what happened to you in your childhood?
1:28:37🔗CallerI mean, that encompasses a lot of years, Adam.
1:28:41🔗AdamWell, here's my question. Were you always a loner? Did you have a lot of friends? Did your parents do any ritualistic torture to you or anything like that?
1:28:49🔗CallerPretty normal. There are some issues that I know of and that is, I do have some intensity issues. I had a hard time making a connection with my mother. We fought a lot.
1:29:19🔗AdamAll right. If I were you, I would focus a little less on buying a good-looking prostitute and filming it and doing all that stuff. And I get a little therapy. Read a book. You know what I mean? Try to sort of re-join life. You know what I'm saying? That's where your time should be spent.
1:29:40🔗CallerI would like to say one thing. I have learned a lot by listening to you guys.
1:29:45🔗DrewGo check out. There's a book called The Search for the Real Self by a guy named Masterson. Yeah. The Search for the Real Self. Maybe that will help you get some insight into how some of these issues may be playing out.
1:29:56🔗AdamYeah, because you guys wouldn't go out with this team. It would be too creepy, right?
1:30:08🔗AdamYou like women a lot too. But guys are always trying to figure out a way to sort of trick women into being attracted to them.
1:30:16🔗CallerThat's what this guy kind of sounds like.
1:30:18🔗AdamYeah, and women are more intuitive. I mean, they're like a dog, they can smell it on you. I mean, you'd smell this guy coming across the bar.
1:30:26🔗CallerTotally. Why can't people be just like normal and be like, hey, what's up?
1:30:29🔗DrewGuys want to think like a game hunter or something.
1:30:40🔗AdamYou know, when she was pregnant, yeah, I got hold of a chick's tampon. So what I could do is I rubbed that on my face for camouflage. And then what I do is I take a strawberry dacquerie and I dump it over my head. So she likes the scent of that. And then I put a medallion on and I come creeping up and I hide behind the bar stool and I surprise them while they're on their way to the bathroom. It's like, I swear to God if they spend all their time trying to trick women into liking them instead of just doing the stuff that's going to get women to like them, which is doing their job, taking care of business, working out, whatever it is, they're always trying to figure out a way to trick women and like him.
1:31:26🔗AdamThis Tim is sitting here strategizing instead of just participating in life, right? Yeah, I know what you chicks like. I don't do it, but I know what you like. Ferris?
1:31:57🔗DrewNo such number. No such number. How could you ever study that? What would you have to go out there and nobody's going to expose themselves in that way?
1:32:05🔗AdamWell, you put A in the paper. We're looking for guys to blow guys with the HIV.
1:32:09🔗CallerNo. I mean, if I'm with somebody and they don't even know that they're infected, and I go down on them, what are the risks that I could become infected too?
1:32:58🔗AdamI'm a penis is all upset. It's just a hypothetical. The penis is so excited about the stack of porn that's out there that it just can't wait to get home and jump into my hand.
1:33:09🔗DrewYou've got to remember, you were talking about your hand or the hamper.
1:33:12🔗AdamNo, my penis is trained now. My hand, and the penis jumps into my hand. I no longer have to take my hand or my penis.
1:33:29🔗AdamInto the hand. I'll get it in the vicinity. But I'll make the penis work a little. Like when you hold the bone up to the dog, you don't hold it down low enough for it to get the first time. That's how you know the nature of man is bad. You can't even feed your own goddamn dog without torturing it just a little bit.
1:33:48🔗AdamIt's like, if I was the dog, it'd be like, hey, why'd you get me? It's like, I can stand up my hind legs like some kind of idiot, just drop the damn bone. Let's go home. You gotta do that.
1:33:59🔗CallerYou gotta make them beg, see if they can walk.
1:34:01🔗AdamYeah, it's really weird. You'll do it a little lower, and then you'll go, oh, he can get this. Last thing we want is him eating. Raise my hand up a little bit. It's a weird...
1:34:13🔗AdamThis is how you know people are evil and why you can't give anyone any power at all, because it immediately goes hell. They realize they have just a drop of power over a dog, and they're going nuts. They become like Idi Amin all of a sudden with the dog. I'll show you. I bet you want that bone, don't you? Maybe I want it.
1:34:33🔗DrewGet your friends out. Hey, look at this.
1:34:34🔗AdamYeah. Meanwhile, they went out and bought the box for the dog. It's not even like they may eat it later. No. I got a little power. Oh, you want something I got? Aha. That's different. That's different. Now maybe I want it.
1:35:33🔗AdamAll right, well, there you go. Another show successfully in the toilet. I want to thank Raylene in the can, I mean, and Chandler for coming in here and being very candid with us tonight. I enjoyed meeting the both of you. And vividvideo.com is where you can find them.
1:36:00🔗AdamOkay. Thank you very much. I know that came from the bottom of your heart. I want to thank Lisa for doing a wonderful job all week and just being a breath of sunshine in this, in this dark and dismal cave that we work in. I want to thank Anderson for doing a good job engineering all week, being right up there with all the vomit sound effects and the yawns. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo. I love Drew.