Tuesday, December 21, 1999

1:24🔗 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

1:34🔗 Voiceover 1-800-LOVE-191 with Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla.

1:41🔗 All right.

1:42🔗 Voiceover Hey, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, fax number 3108-54-4455. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Tom and Travis are both here from Blink 182 and-

2:02🔗 Drew Mark, we lost on the freeway. Seriously.

2:04🔗 Adam No, I overheard a phone call with Mark. He'll be here. All right. Blink 182 just came from the drdrew.com website, whatever. I don't know what it is.

2:17🔗 Drew Webcast.

2:17🔗 Adam Webcast. How'd that go?

2:19🔗 Guest It was rad.

2:20🔗 Drew It was fun.

2:20🔗 Guest I liked it.

2:21🔗 Adam Why was it good?

2:22🔗 Guest Because there wasn't any limits. Well, no, it was rad because there's no limits. You could say anything and you could just talk about whatever you wanted. It was really relaxed atmosphere. I also think it's cool because it's really anonymous for kids to come in there and talk about whatever they want to. And no one knows their name or what they look like.

2:40🔗 Adam And where is this? In Pasadena?

2:42🔗 Drew Old town. Blink's got a lot of fans. A bunch of people turned up. I'm afraid they're going to break in the window at our studio.

2:48🔗 Adam Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Right.

2:49🔗 Drew I made them take pictures of the crowd. It was insane.

2:53🔗 Adam Really? Yeah. You didn't. You know, you talked about it on the air, but it's not like you really drove it home.

2:58🔗 Drew No, you were too busy yelling at me last night for me to talk about myself.

3:01🔗 Adam Oh, shut up. Drew is not much of a promoter, I'll tell you that. He's no Barnum. No. So he didn't push it too much. So the fact that a bunch of people showed up, even with Drew's half-hearted attempt at publicity, is pretty amazing and a testament to the band's popularity.

3:25🔗 Drew Yes, that's what it means.

3:26🔗 Adam Oh, stop it. Yes, yes.

3:28🔗 Guest Go on.

3:28🔗 Adam Enema of the State is gone platinum. Is that true?

3:33🔗 Guest It's the rumors we hear.

3:34🔗 Drew You said it on the TV show two hours ago.

3:37🔗 Adam I know. Well, it said it in the bio. I just, you know, I just want to confirm it.

3:43🔗 Guest Have you read our bio?

3:45🔗 Adam I just looked at it and really read it.

3:47🔗 Guest It's all about colon cleansing routines.

3:51🔗 Drew The colon cleansing or the fat absorbers?

3:52🔗 Guest No, for real, because we called our album Enema of the State, which is the bio we put together as a whole way to give yourself an enema.

3:58🔗 Drew In order to raise rectal awareness, Blink 182 needed to increase their fan base.

4:02🔗 Guest Okay. Fine. There's a paragraph in here. When you start seeing stuff about fleshing out your colon in the ovary, it's like it's probably in the middle somewhere. And so every journalist, like so funny, we just got back to-

4:12🔗 Drew Your regular infrequent bowel movements can allow toxic residues to remain in the colon, Travis concludes. It's very rare in society to find normal function of a healthy colon. For abnormal function, colon hydration, hydrotherapy, or enemas, as they're commonly known, are recommended.

4:24🔗 Guest Exactly.

4:24🔗 Drew This is Travis.

4:25🔗 Guest I've never partaked in any of this.

4:27🔗 Adam I've spoken to Drew about this topic at length, and apparently it makes no difference. Is that true, Drew?

4:32🔗 Drew It makes no difference.

4:33🔗 Guest It doesn't help you out?

4:35🔗 Drew Your colon was designed for this. By the way, the only thing the colon does is absorb water.

4:39🔗 Guest Really?

4:40🔗 Drew It's all it does.

4:41🔗 Adam I said to Drew, I've argued with Drew a hundred times, isn't it better to take three or four healthy bowel movements a day as opposed to once? Once a week. Well, that's extreme. Let's say there's a guy who goes four times a day, and there's a guy who goes once every couple of days, and he says, no difference, that's just the anal schedule the guy is on.

5:05🔗 Guest Hey, have you ever traveled and had that whole schedule thrown off? It's bad. No, honestly, we'll go from Europe, and it'll be one time during the day, and then you come back, and all of a sudden it's like first thing in the morning, or I don't know. It's just kind of...

5:19🔗 Adam In your pants, on your way to the bathroom, or in the airplane, or in a cab. How old are Silver Chair now?

5:26🔗 Guest They're like 15. No, I don't know. No, they're actually like 18 and 19. Like one of them just got their license in Australia.

5:33🔗 Adam We had Silver Chair in here, didn't we?

5:35🔗 Drew It seemed like it was two years ago.

5:36🔗 Adam It was, I think.

5:38🔗 Drew They were 12? What were they?

5:39🔗 Guest They were like, they were honestly... First time we met them, Daniel just turned 16. He got this new car, and he was flying around Newcastle, Australia. It was right at the height of their album Frog Stomp or whatever that actually sold about 3 million copies. There were these kids that all they wanted to do was take us out to go egging in Australia. It was funny.

5:59🔗 Drew They don't have guns in Australia, see?

6:01🔗 Guest Yeah.

6:01🔗 Adam Yeah. Hey, eggs don't kill people. People kill people, I think is how it goes. All right. We'll take some calls. I'm sure you guys are familiar with the show. Jay?

6:11🔗 Yep.

6:12🔗 Adam You're 30.

6:13🔗 Caller Yep.

6:13🔗 Adam What's up?

6:15🔗 Caller Well, this is primarily a question for Dr. Drew. I guess it's sort of physiological. Ever since I can remember whenever I have either masturbated or had sex, I'm obviously a guy. I come, I orgasm several times in a row.

6:36🔗 Drew And what does that mean?

6:37🔗 Caller And I'm not talking like, I'm talking like probably 30 seconds to a minute in between each one. And I'm wondering if there's some sort of physiological, some underlying condition that causes me to do this and...

6:53🔗 Drew Is there times when you can't do it?

6:55🔗 Caller No.

6:56🔗 Drew There are no times? It's always the same?

6:58🔗 Caller It's always the same.

6:59🔗 Adam 30 seconds to a minute in between.

7:02🔗 Guest Wait, wait. Do you have an orgasm each time or does it just kind of come out?

7:06🔗 Caller I have an orgasm. I have the feeling of an orgasm and I have ejaculate as well.

7:12🔗 Guest That doesn't sound like a bad thing.

7:14🔗 Adam No, I wish I could do that.

7:15🔗 Caller It makes me sort of popular.

7:18🔗 Guest Wow.

7:18🔗 Caller I'm wondering is there... And I've never run into anybody else who can do this. And before I had sex, I thought everybody could do it.

7:27🔗 Adam Well, let me ask you a couple of questions, Jay. Do you have to keep the stimulation going in order to do it?

7:35🔗 Drew Can you stop it?

7:36🔗 Caller Right. Yeah. Usually I have to continue the stimulation. Sometimes I need more stimulation, sometimes not very much at all.

7:44🔗 Drew I just wonder if it's just one long thing he does with a little, you know, sort of...

7:49🔗 Adam Well, first off, 30 seconds to a minute doesn't seem like a long period of time. But when it comes to ejaculating, it's an eternity. I mean, hold on a second, Jay.

7:59🔗 Caller Yeah.

8:00🔗 Adam All right, I'm looking at the clock right now, right? All right, so now we'll begin the clock and I'll tell you when it's been 30 seconds.

8:07🔗 Caller Okay.

8:07🔗 Adam So something went flying out of your penis five seconds ago, right? Now nothing's flying out, but you're continuing the stimulation, but still nothing has happened.

8:19🔗 Caller The feeling of the orgasm has stopped.

8:22🔗 Adam Feeling has stopped.

8:22🔗 Drew No contractions?

8:24🔗 Caller No contractions any longer, no ejaculate any longer.

8:28🔗 Adam Is your anus dilated to nine centimeters? Okay. Now it's been 30 seconds and something else comes out?

8:36🔗 Caller Yep.

8:37🔗 Adam Son of a bitch. Will it happen again?

8:40🔗 Caller Yep.

8:40🔗 Adam How many times?

8:43🔗 Caller I'm not sure.

8:45🔗 Adam What do you mean you're not sure?

8:46🔗 Caller Usually I have to stop otherwise I can rub myself raw.

8:52🔗 Adam Okay, but three times, four times?

8:54🔗 Caller Seven or eight times is not unusual.

8:56🔗 Guest Can you imagine having multiple... Only girls do that.

8:59🔗 Drew And fluid continues to come out each time?

9:03🔗 Caller Most of the time. I specifically remember one time in college where I did it about 12 times in 50 minutes and all of them were productive.

9:11🔗 Guest You know what would be so funny is if he was hooking up with a girl and her dad came home so he threw on his pants and ran out and just kept having orgasms in his pants as he's running.

9:20🔗 Caller Well first of all I would need to continue the stimulation and second of all I don't do chicks.

9:28🔗 Adam Oh boy. You know his penis, I'm picturing like you know when you cut a chicken's head off and it still runs around the farm for like another minute? That's kind of what your penis is like. Oh my God.

9:39🔗 Drew I just don't know where all the fluid comes from. I don't understand.

9:41🔗 Caller What I want to know is, is there, what is it that allows me to do this?

9:48🔗 Drew Whatever the, whatever, we don't.

9:50🔗 Caller Is it, could it cause problems?

9:52🔗 Drew No.

9:52🔗 Caller I mean if it has something to do with my prostate, I mean is it?

9:54🔗 Drew No, no, no. It's just whatever caused refractoriness and again that's probably a complex combination of spinal reflex arcs and central nervous system processes that we don't fully understand doesn't happen with you. Now what's, but that to me is not that abnormal but then to continue to produce fluid, I mean your seminal vesicles must be the size of like a milk carton, you know? Are you a huge person?

10:19🔗 Adam He was a missing kid on the back of it.

10:21🔗 Drew Are you, are you, are you a giant person?

10:23🔗 Caller No, I'm like 5'11, 170.

10:26🔗 Adam And, and, wait a second, can, let's say you did this tonight, okay, and you had your orgasm and then you had your 3, 4, 5 orgasms spaced out 30 seconds or a minute apart.

10:42🔗 Drew When's your next time?

10:43🔗 Adam When is the next time you can do it? This time tomorrow night?

10:46🔗 Caller Yeah.

10:47🔗 Drew Oh.

10:47🔗 Adam You can do it again?

10:48🔗 Caller Sure.

10:49🔗 Adam This guy's like a semen factory.

10:52🔗 Caller Well, and, I mean, sometimes it's like even if I do it like 2 or 3 times, it's like, you know, an hour or 2 later.

10:59🔗 Drew Okay, I know we're all fascinated by J.

11:00🔗 Adam I wouldn't be able to hold down a job. I really wouldn't.

11:03🔗 Caller And it's like an hour or 2 later. If I only do it like 2 or 3 times, quite frequently, it's like I won't be able to go to sleep unless I do it 2 or 3 more times.

11:12🔗 Caller Oh my God.

11:13🔗 Adam Hey, J, I don't know what you do for a living, but quit. There's a guy named Jim Rose. He has this circus type show. Or anything goes. I think you'll be the new star.

11:26🔗 Guest You qualify.

11:27🔗 Adam Yeah. Now, you're healthy. It's just the way you are.

11:32🔗 Drew Yeah. That's it. Never had any head injuries or anything like that.

11:36🔗 Guest Dr. Drew is stumped too. No one knows what's going on with his penis.

11:39🔗 Adam My God. Can you imagine?

11:41🔗 Guest Yes.

11:41🔗 Drew How does he produce all that fluid?

11:43🔗 Adam I don't know, but some guys can do this. You don't watch enough porn.

11:47🔗 Drew No.

11:47🔗 Adam Oh, guys vary.

11:48🔗 Guest Peter North, we used to call him the Human Geyser.

11:51🔗 Drew What does he do?

11:52🔗 Adam The decorator.

11:53🔗 Drew What does he do? It's disgusting.

11:54🔗 Guest He just keeps going and going and going.

11:57🔗 Adam Just keeps going. It just keeps going.

12:00🔗 What does that mean?

12:01🔗 Adam I mean, as much as you put out on an average session, right? He puts out 10 to 20 times that much. You know what I'm saying, Drew?

12:13🔗 Drew Is it more liquidy?

12:15🔗 Adam It tastes saltier.

12:16🔗 Drew Is the quality of the fluid different?

12:19🔗 Guest It's warmer.

12:19🔗 Adam No, it seems to be the same. I have not got the lab results back from them, but I'm going to bring a movie in here one of these nights, Drew. It's a mess.

12:31🔗 Caller All right. It really is.

12:32🔗 Drew I would appreciate it enlightening me.

12:34🔗 Adam Okay. Brianna?

12:35🔗 Yeah.

12:36🔗 Adam You're 15.

12:37🔗 Drew Yes.

12:37🔗 Adam What's up?

12:39🔗 Oh my God. This question is for Blink-Made 2. Oh my God. My friend Christine, she's in love with you guys so much.

12:46🔗 You just don't understand.

12:48🔗 We even want to send her on Fanatic.

12:50🔗 But unfortunately, there's no way we can ever meet them.

12:54🔗 It's just impossible.

12:56🔗 Caller Where do you live?

12:57🔗 I live in Downey.

12:58🔗 Guest Downey?

12:58🔗 She lives in Colbys.

13:00🔗 Adam Hey, everyone. Mark's here.

13:01🔗 Drew You're biggest fans on the phone.

13:03🔗 Hi.

13:04🔗 Adam Hey, Brianna. Brianna. You can get down to the studio. You're 15.

13:09🔗 Caller I'm only 15.

13:10🔗 I don't have a car.

13:11🔗 Caller Wait, give me up to speed. What's going on? I'm sorry.

13:13🔗 Adam Brianna is 15. She's a huge Blink fan and she doesn't think she can ever meet the band.

13:20🔗 Caller All you got to do, call a cab.

13:23🔗 Guest Call a cab.

13:24🔗 Where do you live?

13:25🔗 Caller Where does she live?

13:26🔗 I live in Downey.

13:27🔗 Caller Downey?

13:27🔗 Adam Yeah, she could make it.

13:28🔗 Caller What's Downey?

13:29🔗 Drew Paper towels. Do not tell a 15-year-old to come down here in Melton.

13:31🔗 Adam I'm not going to rape her or anything.

13:33🔗 Caller I'm not saying that. I'm just, you know, I'm trying to... It's my little make-a-wish foundation thing. Do you have terminal illness? No. Never mind.

13:41🔗 Guest Do you take that new fat pill that messes up?

13:44🔗 Caller Hey, have you heard about this new fat reduction pill that gives you greasy, oily discharge from your anus and increased bowel movements?

13:48🔗 Drew That's what we talked about on drew.com, by the way.

13:50🔗 Guest Yeah, that's what you missed on drew.com. But apparently, the greasy bowels is what the pill does, and the fat thing is a side effect.

13:58🔗 Caller Originally, the pill was developed to give someone oily, greasy discharge from their anus, and as a side effect, they found out that it cuts your fat absorption. So it's kind of like penicillin. It's like they were going for something, but they...

14:08🔗 Adam They found something else. Hey, Brianna?

14:11🔗 Yeah?

14:11🔗 Adam All right. You could meet the band tonight, but I understand you're 15 and you don't have wheels and all that.

14:16🔗 Caller It's not fair, damn it.

14:18🔗 Adam All right.

14:19🔗 Caller Well, life isn't fair. Nobody likes a garbage mouth.

14:22🔗 Guest I know.

14:23🔗 Adam All right. Drew, move your hand. We're talking to Shelly.

14:27🔗 Caller Atmospheric in here tonight.

14:28🔗 Adam Thank you.

14:28🔗 Drew What does that mean?

14:29🔗 Adam I farted.

14:30🔗 Caller It's a little darker than normal.

14:31🔗 Guest You farted.

14:32🔗 Adam It's a little mood lighting. Shelly?

14:34🔗 Hello?

14:35🔗 Adam You're 16.

14:36🔗 Guest Yeah.

14:36🔗 Adam What's up?

14:36🔗 Okay.

14:37🔗 Caller First of all, I'm sorry, but I made up my question, okay?

14:40🔗 Caller All right.

14:41🔗 Guest That's rasty.

14:43🔗 Caller Yeah.

14:43🔗 Caller Okay. Boink. You guys are like my favorite band. I have all your albums.

14:46🔗 Caller Okay. Carousel is my favorite song.

14:49🔗 Caller And I want to know, okay, you guys are coming.

14:52🔗 Caller I live in San Diego, really.

14:54🔗 I said Sacramento. I don't know why.

14:56🔗 Caller Okay. But.

14:58🔗 Drew You're lying. You might as well keep lying.

14:59🔗 Caller Yeah. You're on a roll. I was just on a roll. Go ahead.

15:02🔗 Guest I'm really a man, okay.

15:04🔗 Caller You guys know what?

15:05🔗 Caller What?

15:05🔗 Caller You talked to me like one hour ago.

15:07🔗 Caller A what?

15:07🔗 I was on Dr. drew.com show.

15:09🔗 Drew Oh, how weird is that?

15:11🔗 Adam Wow. Wow.

15:12🔗 Caller It's like synchronicity.

15:13🔗 Adam Hey, Shelly.

15:14🔗 Caller Yeah. Hi, Shelly.

15:17🔗 Adam Well, you guys live in San Diego. That's right. You know, you may run into them at a mall or something.

15:22🔗 Caller What's your address?

15:23🔗 Adam I'll give it to you off the air, right, Shelly?

15:25🔗 Caller What?

15:26🔗 Adam Off the air, goofball.

15:28🔗 Caller What? Huh? Okay.

15:30🔗 Adam I don't know. I'm just, I'm tired of the kids.

15:31🔗 Drew These guys, you would appreciate this. And at drew.com, I'm sure they, they, we got into, they got into a 10 minute discussion about relationships and the whole farting, pooing thing. Farting poo.

15:41🔗 Caller Oh, can I please tell you a story?

15:43🔗 Guest Sure. You gotta be careful.

15:43🔗 Caller I have the reddest story about how to be my girlfriend.

15:46🔗 Guest Okay.

15:47🔗 Caller Can I please tell the story? Please.

15:48🔗 Guest Oh, that is, I can't.

15:48🔗 Caller This is such a red story. Okay. Staying at my girlfriend's house and she's on the phone. She's like, oh, this is, this is going to take about half an hour or whatever. So I said, oh, I'm going to go take a shower. Okay, fine, whatever. So I go on and start doing my thing of shower. She gets off the phone early. She goes, oh, I'll just, you know, take a shower with Mark because we're going to go to bed or whatever. So she comes and I don't know this, but the door in her bathroom doesn't lock all the way. You can just push it straight open. So she comes as a total Starskin hutch style, kicks open the door and there I am sitting buck naked, taking a crap.

16:19🔗 Adam That's a turn on.

16:20🔗 Guest They're not together anymore because of the incident.

16:22🔗 Caller Yeah, it was so awful. But I mean, it immediately broke down the poop barrier. Now I can poop there. I have carte blanche.

16:28🔗 Guest Hey, I once stopped dating a girl because we went to her house and Mark went to use the bathroom and came back and said it stunk.

16:33🔗 Caller Oh my god, this girl, like we showed up at her house and we're supposed to pick her up because Tom's going on a date with her and we show up at the door and she starts walking out and I say, oh hey, can I use your bathroom? And she gets all upset. She's all, yeah, yeah, you totally can. And she leads me past the hall room, the hallway bathroom, like the main guest bathroom. And I'm like, what about that one? She's all, that one's dirty. And it stunk so bad because she just absolutely tore it up.

16:52🔗 Guest She actually admitted to it. She said, I go, hey, Mark, can I use your bathroom? She's all, no, man, I'm all white. She's all, she's trying to think of something like a little mouse is running on the wheel in her head. And then she goes, ah, I went to the bathroom.

17:05🔗 Caller Okay, you can use my parents' one. Oh, it smelled so bad that I would not allow Tom to get here anymore.

17:09🔗 Guest That was the last time I ever hung out with her that day.

17:11🔗 Drew Really?

17:11🔗 Adam That was a deal breaker?

17:12🔗 Guest That was a deal breaker for me. I wasn't, I-

17:14🔗 Drew See, Adam appreciates that kind of thing.

17:17🔗 Caller Girls don't poop.

17:18🔗 Drew No, for Adam, they would have been a steam builder.

17:20🔗 Adam No.

17:21🔗 Guest Yeah, you wouldn't get all turned on. It would have been creepy.

17:23🔗 Adam No, I have a real double standard with the anus. I like to do the farting. I like to be the one who's doing that in the relationship, but I don't appreciate it when they do it.

17:34🔗 Guest I know it sounds- Mark had a girlfriend that used to fart so loud. We would be at the movie theater and his girlfriend would be like a long time ago. And the whole theater would smell.

17:43🔗 Adam Hey, have you ever done this? Have you ever been at a party or in a house where there's a few people and somebody just destroys the bathroom, you walk into the bathroom, you take two steps in the bathroom, you go, Oh, Christ, I don't got to go that bad. You step out of the bathroom because it's painful and there's a person standing there waiting to walk in. And you're like, and they just go in and shut the door and you realize, I don't know, should I pull them aside and talk to them now?

18:10🔗 Guest I always explain it. I always, you know, I come out and I go, you know, listen, I didn't do that. I didn't go to the bathroom. I just went to, I went pee-pee.

18:17🔗 Caller The right thing to do, because I know you guys travel a lot, and this is a good joke to play if you want to really embarrass some absolute stranger, is when you're waiting for the lavatory, whenever someone comes out of...

18:27🔗 Drew The plane or something?

18:28🔗 Caller Yeah, on the plane, the plane's in flight, and someone's in the lavatory ahead of you and you're waiting for your turn. When they come out, act like you're walking in and go, oh my God, it smells terrible in here.

18:37🔗 Guest He knew it.

18:38🔗 Caller While the person's walking back to their seat because the whole plane will turn around and look, and it's that one person walking back to their seat and all go, oh.

18:43🔗 Guest It's so funny because he did it to the same lady twice on this flight.

18:47🔗 Caller Same lady I got twice. It was really beautiful.

18:49🔗 Guest It was pretty rad.

18:51🔗 Adam That is wonderful.

18:52🔗 Drew Let's play a Blake song. Now that we've been dosed up properly with Blake.

18:56🔗 Adam You want to hear that? Wait a minute. Did we ever talk to-

18:58🔗 Drew Julie.

18:59🔗 Adam Did we ever talk to her?

19:00🔗 Drew No.

19:00🔗 Adam Oh, hold on. Julie?

19:02🔗 Yeah.

19:02🔗 Adam You're 21.

19:03🔗 Caller Yeah.

19:04🔗 Adam What's up?

19:05🔗 Caller Well, I have a boyfriend and I can't seem to have sexual intercourse with him.

19:12🔗 Adam Wait a minute. I want to say one other thing. It just jumped into my head regarding airports, travel, and poo.

19:19🔗 Drew Okay.

19:19🔗 Adam I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but some of the worst damage goes on in airport bathrooms.

19:24🔗 Drew People say that.

19:25🔗 Adam You walk into an airport bathroom. Normally, when you go to a public bathroom and you see the toilets with the stalls and everything, there's 15 of them and there's maybe one guy in there. But when you go to the airport, there's 15 and there's 15 pair of shoes there with the pants around the ankles and it's bad. It's real bad.

19:45🔗 Drew And noisy too, right?

19:46🔗 Adam And the guys are just going to town, like reckless abandon. They're going like they've never gone before. And I said to Drew once, I couldn't figure it out because we do a ton of traveling. I was like, why is it always so bad in these airport bathrooms? Because when you go to a ball game or you go to the movies or you go to other public places, you don't get that kind of damage. People wait till they get home or whatever it is. I said to Drew, because he knows this is true. He loves poo poo jokes. I said, Drew, you know why this is bad? Because these people aren't from this city. And their feeling is, hey, I'm from Milwaukee and I'm stopping over in LA and I'm doing some damage. I'm going to ruin the town before I go back to my beloved Milwaukee.

20:26🔗 Guest No, I think the worst thing is when you're in a bathroom and you are the only one that's dead silent and some other guy walks in and you're sitting down and you're all, don't make noise. Then you go, I guess I should cough or something so he knows I'm here.

20:37🔗 Drew Tom cannot fart in front of a woman.

20:39🔗 Guest It's been three years and my girlfriend, she's probably listening, Jen, I'm planning on farting around you. I just don't know when and I don't know when it's appropriate. It's one of those things. It's like the first time you have sex. It's like you build up to it.

20:50🔗 Drew But now it's been three years, so it's weird.

20:52🔗 Guest Yeah, now it's weird. I don't know what to do.

20:53🔗 Adam You know when you make your move, you make your move when you guys are sleeping in the same bed and you're used to sleeping alone and it's like 5.30 in the morning and you're barely awake and you don't know that someone's next to you because you're not used to someone being next to you.

21:09🔗 Caller That's so guilty of that.

21:09🔗 Adam And then you just let it fly and the sound of your own gas sort of wakes you up enough to know that there's someone next to you.

21:17🔗 I did that.

21:18🔗 Caller I've done that, man.

21:19🔗 Adam Now if a woman has any dignity, she'll pretend like she's sleeping, but she'll usually bring it up at some point later on in the day.

21:26🔗 Caller Okay, let me give you a story about a week ago. Waking up, waking up, just laying together, whatever. My girlfriend goes, yeah, you totally farted last night in your sleep. I just wanted you to know that.

21:38🔗 Guest I did that one time. I was laying there, she was behind me, kind of spitting me. I was kind of asleep.

21:43🔗 Caller Oh no.

21:44🔗 Guest I was asleep.

21:45🔗 Caller Shh, be quiet. I'm telling a story.

21:47🔗 Guest I was asleep. I'm like, oh my God. Then right then it woke me up. My heart starts beating.

21:54🔗 Caller And you listen for her breathing to see if it gets irregular.

21:56🔗 Guest I know. She's all, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. A little bead of sweat drips on my face. It's like Mission Impossible.

22:03🔗 Adam But she didn't know. I mean, she didn't wake up.

22:05🔗 Guest You know what? She wouldn't have told me.

22:07🔗 Adam I think that was it. I think you broke the wind and broke the ice and it's fair game now. Julie?

22:14🔗 Caller Yeah.

22:14🔗 Adam All right. So you're 21. What's up?

22:16🔗 Caller Well, I have panic attacks. I can't have sexual intercourse.

22:21🔗 Adam Really?

22:22🔗 Drew You've always had this when you tried to do this?

22:24🔗 Caller I'm sorry?

22:25🔗 Drew Have you always had this happen when you tried to have sex?

22:28🔗 Caller Yes, but it's been worse recently. Like it hasn't really been that bad until recently in the last month or so.

22:36🔗 Drew So where is it coming from?

22:38🔗 Caller Where is it coming from? I'm not quite sure. I mean, I was raped when I was 15, but I'm not quite sure.

22:50🔗 Drew Did you ever have treatment for the rape incident?

22:52🔗 Caller Yeah.

22:53🔗 Drew How long were you treated for?

22:56🔗 Caller A lot of drugs and therapy and not much else. Pretty much.

23:01🔗 Drew What else is there but trying drugs and therapy? What do you mean?

23:03🔗 Caller Well, it didn't really help, but I didn't really get back in.

23:06🔗 Drew How many years did you do it for?

23:09🔗 Caller Let's see here. Three.

23:11🔗 Adam Three years?

23:12🔗 Caller Yeah.

23:12🔗 Drew That was not the first time you were victimized, was it?

23:17🔗 Caller Actually, yeah. That was the first time.

23:19🔗 Drew No way.

23:20🔗 Adam What happened?

23:23🔗 Caller Well, I had been dating him for about two and a half years, and I was trying to break up with him, and my mom, not knowing, invited him over. Actually, I just had a very long, horrible manic episode.

23:39🔗 Drew So you're bipolar?

23:40🔗 Caller Yeah.

23:41🔗 Drew Okay. You've never done anything unusual during these bipolar episodes, these manic episodes?

23:46🔗 Caller I'm sorry?

23:46🔗 Drew You've never done anything disturbing during these manic episodes?

23:51🔗 Caller Not that I can think of. Just more like I'm up all night, every night for a week.

23:57🔗 Drew And nobody ever sexually abused you or anything like that when you were younger?

24:00🔗 Caller Not when I was really young that I know of, no.

24:03🔗 Adam Wow.

24:04🔗 Drew Well, how old were you when you do know about it?

24:07🔗 Caller 15.

24:08🔗 Adam 15. So that's it. All right. So she's manic depressive. She got raped at 15. And you say you should be on some meds, right?

24:17🔗 Caller Well, I haven't been on drugs for about four years and I've been OK. I haven't had any episodes.

24:22🔗 Adam All right. Well, you're starting to have panic attacks now.

24:25🔗 Caller Yeah.

24:26🔗 Adam So maybe a little more therapy and maybe some more meds.

24:29🔗 Caller The thing is that I am actually in therapy and it's not doing anything.

24:35🔗 Drew And what do they think this is from?

24:38🔗 Caller They basically said that that's what they think it's from.

24:40🔗 Drew From what?

24:41🔗 Caller From the rape. But the therapy that I'm in doesn't seem to do any good.

24:47🔗 Guest And maybe try somebody else.

24:49🔗 Drew No, no, no, no.

24:50🔗 Guest No, I mean, no, not for that. Bad advice, Tom. No, I was talking about like. It's not bad advice. No, I was.

24:55🔗 Drew It's not bad advice, but somebody with this. There's a lot more going on here that for whatever reason, I don't know what the deal is, but the people like this, the important thing is this long-term, stable relationship with the therapist.

25:06🔗 Guest Don't you think that some therapists, though, aren't as good as others?

25:09🔗 Drew Oh, yeah. But for some people, the important thing is just hanging in for a long period of time, just being able to stay with a single person.

25:16🔗 Adam Right. Anyway, we can tell by Julie's voice, there's a lot going on here. But we're not going to get to the bottom of it tonight. So instead, we're going to pee and drink more coffee, right, Drew?

25:26🔗 Drew Yeah, absolutely.

25:26🔗 Adam All right, we'll take a break.

25:27🔗 Caller Loveline, be right back in a minute. Hey.

25:52🔗 Adam Gary Marshall, the great Gary Marshall is here. The creator, the producer, the writer, the actor.

26:00🔗 Caller Ball player, everything.

26:01🔗 Adam The ball player.

26:02🔗 Drew How he wants to be known.

26:03🔗 Adam Responsible for 70 to 80% of all entertainment. Stage, television.

26:10🔗 Caller No, I have the theater. Falcon Theater in Los Angeles. Burbank, we have plays there.

26:16🔗 Drew Rapunzel's there now.

26:17🔗 Caller Oh, you do? Well, we, we, we, I think it's good that the kids go see theater. Live theater is good. A lot of plays teach a lot about life. And it's a good, good thing. You can't change the channel. You gotta sit there. That's a good discipline.

26:29🔗 Caller Is it, is it your theater?

26:31🔗 Caller Yeah, I put it up myself. 99 seat theater to try to expose more people to plays.

26:36🔗 Adam That's interesting. Where, where, where, where in Burbank is that?

26:39🔗 Caller Straight on Riverside Drive across from Bob's Big Boy.

26:43🔗 Adam Oh, yeah.

26:44🔗 Caller It's near Warner's.

26:45🔗 Adam It's brand new.

26:46🔗 Caller Brand, yeah, yeah, it's.

26:47🔗 Drew Is that where we used to meet and walk around?

26:49🔗 Adam Yeah, right across the street. Starbucks is there.

26:51🔗 Drew Yeah, yeah.

26:52🔗 Caller Yeah, Starbucks, Moe's, Marie Callender's in the Falcon Theater. We put it up.

26:57🔗 Adam That's only a 99 seater?

26:59🔗 Caller Well, well, we have our offices there for the movie. The 99 seat theater doesn't quite pay off all the bills, so we have a movie company. But the theater really, we've been getting a lot of kids there for the weekend shows, and we're doing new works and stuff. It's interesting that, you know, somebody once said, I got to get serious, that a civilization is judged on their meeting places. And, you know, we're in a place that, you know, the kids, a lot of them, they have there on the Internet. They're even there in their room. The parents are in another room. People have Walkman and the DVDs with the 3D glasses. Some very wealthy people have the DVDs, and they can listen to Das Boot all by themselves. But, I think sometimes you gather in the theater. That's why I think the fact that they're all going to the movies is also good if they speak in the lobby. Just as long as people talk, it helps.

27:52🔗 Adam That, we, Drew and I, we wrote a book, and they were building that theater the entire time, or that office, the whole time we were working, we were working right across the street.

28:04🔗 Drew We used to meet and work on this book every day at the Starbucks.

28:07🔗 Caller Oh yeah, that's where we were. There used to be a gas station, we built it from scratch.

28:12🔗 Adam That building is, has the world's largest roof on it. I don't know if you've noticed that, it is all roof.

28:18🔗 Caller Yeah, who needs that? But you know, it's a permit business, you know, and you've got it, but inside it's very nice.

28:24🔗 Drew Don't, don't, don't regret it, talk about permits.

28:26🔗 Adam It's a good look in, okay. Yeah, I don't want to get going on that. But the reason, and I explain this, because I have a little theater background myself, not too much, but the 99 cedar.

28:38🔗 Drew Mr. Gary, would you please stop working them? You're already getting first off expensive gifts from your, your producers, my producers that I can't even imagine owning.

28:45🔗 Caller You guys should do the show from there. We'll get an audience.

28:48🔗 Adam You mean Mr. Marshall.

28:50🔗 Caller I don't know what this Gary Nye is.

28:53🔗 Adam Sorry, Mr. Marshall. Ninety-nine seat is because they don't have to pay the actors.

28:59🔗 Caller It's a, you had to pay them something, but not too much. Different than movies.

29:03🔗 Adam When you get into a hundred seats, then you got to start paying people. So that's why you always hear about these ninety-nine seat theaters and it's not a hundred and five.

29:11🔗 Caller Equity waiver you can have. It allows you to do, like we did Death of a Salesman with Jack Klugman, allows you to have large cast, fourteen, fifteen people for regular theater, and have that many you can't afford.

29:23🔗 Adam Jack Klugman, how is he doing?

29:25🔗 Caller He's, I did the odd couple with him five years. He's still, he had a little problem with his throat, but he's working now, and he's doing pretty good.

29:32🔗 Adam Stacey.

29:33🔗 Hi.

29:34🔗 Adam You're 29.

29:35🔗 Caller Yes, I am.

29:35🔗 Adam How are you?

29:36🔗 Caller I'm fine, thanks. How are you? Good. You're on. Okay, hi. Hi, Stacey. Yeah, I wanted to ask you a question about a comment I heard on your show, I think it was last night. It was, you got this really disturbing phone call from a woman, yeah, who said about her girlfriend and her boyfriend, and you said something.

29:58🔗 Drew This was the girl that was gonna destroy the baby after she was born.

30:01🔗 Caller Right, the boyfriend was gonna do it for her. Very frightening. And you said something, and forgive me, I could be taking it out of context, or I may not have heard you correctly. I was driving home from work, but you said something about this is kind of where abortion has led or something like that.

30:19🔗 Drew No, no, what I said was, and it was close to that, Stacey. What I said was, and let's be clear, because what the kids tell me that have been through this is, hey, it's my body, that's my thing, what real difference, I can take care of it whenever I want, and what difference does it make if it's outside or inside my uterus, it's still part of my body, it's part of me, and they have massive levels of denial about it that's fueled by the state of the law of the land, which is that they are led to believe that this is completely their property.

30:54🔗 Caller Completely their property.

30:55🔗 Drew That's how they talk about it.

30:58🔗 Adam All right, well listen, Stacey, here's what Drew's saying.

31:02🔗 Caller I understand.

31:02🔗 Adam As you know, I took issue with him, right?

31:05🔗 Caller No, I didn't. I didn't hear that part.

31:07🔗 Adam Someone turn the radio off during my best junk, you know?

31:09🔗 Caller I'm sorry. I mean, I get the reception in better in the car, and I went inside.

31:14🔗 Drew Stacey, don't let him hurt you.

31:16🔗 Caller Adam doesn't come across in cars as well as the doctor. It's a known fact.

31:21🔗 Caller It's not across really well.

31:22🔗 Caller I wouldn't have wanted to call up, but I know a lot of people who are really, particularly women who really do like the show, and they talk about, you know, I teach college-age students, and I hear a lot of the women talk about, oh, you know, they're really great. They say a lot of things that help young women feel really empowered and control of their situation.

31:42🔗 Drew Let me, I am completely in favor of women being empowered in all areas of interpersonal experience, particularly reproductive health.

31:50🔗 Adam I absolutely am, too. But it's so they leave me alone.

31:52🔗 Drew But I also...

31:53🔗 Adam Not for the same reasons, Drew. It's just so they get out of the goddamn house every once in a while.

31:57🔗 Drew I also believe in just reporting what seems to be happening.

32:00🔗 Caller Yeah, and I agree with you. One reason why I wanted to call in is because, as far as reporting what's happening, is one thing that I've noticed is that a lot of people are conflating or actually confusing birth control with abortion.

32:14🔗 Drew Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's been going on for a long time.

32:17🔗 Caller Yeah, and that's something that I'm kind of...

32:19🔗 Drew And this is why I've taken a huge stance on the morning after pills, because it's not an abortion pill. It's a way to empower women to give them control of their reproductive health and take the abortion issue away and probably prevent 100,000 abortions a year, as I think would be a conservative estimate.

32:34🔗 Adam Oh, yeah.

32:35🔗 Caller I agree with that. They've got to get that across.

32:38🔗 Drew Yeah, and this pill works by suppressing ovulation. Everybody confuses it with RU-486 and these pharmacist groups go out and say it's unethical because of some old literature that suggested it might affect implantation, which it really does not. It works by suppressing ovulation. Everyone should have the prevent kit or Plan B in their glove compartment, in their medicine cabinet, wherever, like a fire extinguisher.

33:00🔗 Adam Sure. And let me say this again, Drew. Drew, I know you're always dumbfounded because you can't figure out why the people that are anti-abortion would be anti-morning after pill because this is a great way to stop abortions.

33:16🔗 Drew Prevent abortions.

33:17🔗 Adam Prevent abortions. And I tell you and I'll tell you again, these people aren't anti-abortion as much as they are pro-complaining. Do you understand? There's a certain segment of society that just can't shut their traps. All they want to do is complain. They want to write letters. They want to pick it. They're usually people that are unemployed and they have afternoons off so they can go down to City Hall on Tuesday at noon and hang out on the steps all day.

33:43🔗 Caller And they have Xeroxes. A lot of Xeroxes.

33:46🔗 Adam Yeah, I blame Kinkos.

33:48🔗 Caller Kinkos is what?

33:49🔗 Adam Before everyone sat in their garage all night and in 18 hours they made four posters. Now there's millions of leaflets in that same period of time. But these people want to complain. So when you say to them, hey, listen, we can stem the tide of abortion by taking this combination of pills. It's not an abortion. It just, it does not let the pregnancy implant.

34:11🔗 Drew No, no, it's not how it works. It doesn't let the pregnancy occur.

34:14🔗 Adam Okay. Well, the point is, is you give them a nice alternative and they say to you, but wait a minute, now I got nothing to complain about. So, I'm going to fight this. And that just means they want to complain. You understand? That's what's, that's the motive behind 90% of these people. There's 10% who really don't like abortion. The other 90% are mildly against abortion, but they are enamored with complaining. They love to complain. Same fat chick sitting home over a word processor all day while someone else goes out and does the work. Busy people rarely complain. When's the last time you wrote a letter to somebody? When's the last time you chained yourself to something?

34:54🔗 Drew Mostly you vote with your feet. You just don't do that anymore. You don't turn to that channel. You don't whatever. You cut that thing.

35:01🔗 Caller You rarely call him Doc. You just say Drew.

35:03🔗 Adam Oh, that's right. I should start calling him Doc.

35:06🔗 Drew I never noticed that. The fact that he's referring to me other than boy or hey you is really quite an improvement. There's a way he treats me in the airports.

35:14🔗 Adam Let me try.

35:14🔗 Drew I'm like a porter.

35:16🔗 Adam Let me try something. I'm going to use scary strategy. Hey, Doc, I need a warm up. Could you get me some coffee? But now we got to go to break.

35:25🔗 Caller We got to go to break.

35:25🔗 Adam And Gary has got to go home and go to sleep because the streetlights have been on for almost two hours now.

35:31🔗 Caller They have.

35:32🔗 Adam And the milk is getting cold by the side of the bed. All right, Gary, the great Gary Marshall, thank you very much for coming in.

35:40🔗 Caller I will come back and tell you how to be an actor next time, but thank you so much for having me on.

35:45🔗 Adam You have a lot of projects and you really ought to come back and pass a visit each time one comes out.

35:50🔗 Caller I like it. Now I know where you are. I can find it here. No, it's very interesting what you guys do. And we have a few laughs too. What's wrong with that?

35:59🔗 Adam Nothing. All right. We'll be back after this. It's Dr. Drew. Save Ferris is our guest tonight. Phone number 1-800-L-F-E-E-1-9-1. What time are we in? Pacific time? And then what's the mountain time?

36:48🔗 Drew Mountain time.

36:49🔗 Adam Okay, wise ass. But where are you? Is that an hour away?

36:52🔗 Drew Denver, yeah.

36:53🔗 Adam And then?

36:56🔗 Drew Central.

36:56🔗 Adam Central, that's two hours.

36:58🔗 Drew Right.

36:58🔗 Adam And then you get East? East Coast? Or East? Yeah. I gotta work that out. Hey, listen, anyone who's teaching school, a little less on the metric system, a little more on the time zones. Something we could actually use. I'm suing my school, by the way, my grammar school for the speech I got in the fifth grade about, there's gonna be two types of people in the future. They're gonna be people who know the metric system, and then they're gonna be people who are unemployed. And that is it. You either, you know, here it comes, and you either get with it, or you don't work. I remember that speech in like the fifth grade. Where's the metric system, everybody? You guys are too young to remember the metric system speech that we all got around 1977. No, it was, oh, you might have got it earlier.

37:44🔗 Drew Yeah.

37:45🔗 Adam Yeah, let's say 76, 77.

37:46🔗 Drew Well, 72 is when they signed all the legislation to make it happen. Yeah, that's right, 76 when it's supposed to go in.

37:51🔗 Adam That's right. Oh, yes, yes. Well, you know, it's only been 20 some odd years. Let's give them a break. I'm sure it's right around the corner. By Christmas, I'd say we'll all be fully converted to the metric system. All right, Save Ferris, as I said, is here. Richard?

38:06🔗 Yes.

38:06🔗 Adam You're 30. What's up?

38:07🔗 Hey, Adam. Hey, Dr. Drew. How you guys doing? Good. Big fan of the show.

38:11🔗 Adam Thanks.

38:12🔗 Caller Save Ferris, I can't wait to get to your new CD. I just wanted to ask you guys what sound is different from this album as to the past album? Because Brian, I think you're a great songwriter and I really loved just every song on the album. I don't have a favorite because I don't think I could pick one.

38:31🔗 Adam I hope Brian's listening at home.

38:34🔗 Caller Oh, bummer.

38:35🔗 Caller Brian's not here.

38:37🔗 Caller Well, I just wanted to know what was different with this album compared to the last album.

38:43🔗 Caller Well, I think we were just in a different place when we wrote this album and we've grown up a lot. The last album was written when we were all not even old enough to get into bars. So we've been through quite a bit since then, I'd say. So the album has a bit of a different feel to it, but it's not so far removed from the old stuff that you don't know that it's us.

39:09🔗 Caller Yeah.

39:10🔗 Caller I think you're really going to enjoy it.

39:11🔗 Caller The reason I really liked you guys is because my parents were a lot older when they started having kids and they grew up on swing music and all that. So a lot of what I heard off of your album was similar to what I heard my parents listening to when they were younger. I actually went and visited my mom and brought It Means Everything to her and she liked it too. She was like, no, I can't believe that you're into this kind of music. And I just love it. And Monique, I think you have the best voice.

39:40🔗 Caller Oh, thank you.

39:42🔗 Caller You really do. I mean, if more people took the time to learn what they were doing before they actually got in the recording studio, I think we'd have a lot better music as a whole.

39:52🔗 Caller Richard, that is so nice of you.

39:53🔗 Adam Thanks, Richard. Yeah, we're going to, well, we're going to hone our act tomorrow night, Drew.

39:59🔗 Caller You know what's really funny is we just got a review in one of the papers, well, like a very, very small paper, that he was actually saying one of the songs was a song that we wouldn't be able to enjoy until we were at least 40.

40:15🔗 Adam Really?

40:15🔗 Drew I mean, you personally?

40:17🔗 Adam You personally or the readers?

40:18🔗 Caller No, like any listener. Wow. I thought it was like a bunch of BS because like, well, it's kind of a backhanded compliment, but it's a good one. Brian wrote the song and he's 24.

40:27🔗 Drew I wonder who plays that very song.

40:28🔗 Adam Do you have to be exactly 40 or just over 40?

40:31🔗 Caller That was my question. So is there a significance with the number 40 or?

40:35🔗 Drew Well, I just started enjoying Safe Fairs right at my birthday.

40:38🔗 Adam Oh, really? Yeah, when you turned 40. I remember you coming in and announcing that.

40:42🔗 Drew Yeah, oh, yes.

40:43🔗 Adam You're wearing a Safe Fairs T-shirt at the time, I believe. All right, he got it for his birthday. We are going to listen now. Is mistaken? Are we going to be in this video? Is that our video?

40:54🔗 Caller Yes, it is.

40:55🔗 Adam Oh, okay.

40:56🔗 Caller So now envision yourself. Just picture it.

40:59🔗 Drew What are our roles, by the way? Adam is the ex-boyfriend.

41:02🔗 Adam We don't want to give it away.

41:03🔗 Caller We don't want to give it away. But what we want to do is talk about as much as possible so that we get the money to make it.

41:09🔗 Drew Am I mistaken for the ex-boyfriend?

41:11🔗 Caller No.

41:12🔗 Adam Don't give it away.

41:13🔗 Drew My house?

41:14🔗 Adam Would you just relax over there, Drew?

41:16🔗 Drew All right.

41:17🔗 Adam Okay.

41:17🔗 Drew I've had anal sex.

41:18🔗 Adam Drew, please.

41:19🔗 Caller Oh my God, did you just say that?

41:21🔗 Adam Mic is still hot.

41:22🔗 Caller Did you just say you had anal sex?

41:23🔗 Adam He thought we were going to the song.

41:25🔗 Caller I did not say that.

41:26🔗 Adam He did say that. I heard him say it.

41:27🔗 That was so cool.

41:29🔗 Adam All right. This is Mistaken. It's from Say Faire. It's off of Modified. If you close your eyes, you can see Drew and I doing I don't know what. Tangoing. In the video. All right, that's our video. That's our band. That's Safe Ferris, Mistaken. Off of Modified, Aaron, you're 18, what's up?

45:10🔗 Caller Yeah, I have a problem. I've been out of the house for about a year and a half. And before that, I was living with my mother, and she was very promiscuous.

45:21🔗 Drew What does that mean?

45:22🔗 Caller Yeah, she would use men for their money, basically. And it's just basically ruined me for I can't take female seriously anymore.

45:34🔗 Drew Have you ever talked to her about this? Have you ever talked to her about it?

45:37🔗 Caller No, no, you can't really get that far with her because I don't know, she gets real defensive. So it's like, you know, it's impossible to talk to her.

45:48🔗 Adam All right. But listen, how ruined are you when you know you're ruined?

45:52🔗 Drew Right, when you're aware of what's going on.

45:56🔗 Caller Well, it's like if I see flirting or if a girl flirts with me, it's like, it's just like, it's like total turn off.

46:03🔗 Adam Yeah, but you don't have any money, do you?

46:05🔗 Caller No. All right.

46:06🔗 Adam So what could they be using you for?

46:08🔗 Caller Well, I don't know. Well, see, my mother would do other things like, like one time, like this is the extreme example, is I was making out with my girlfriend in the other room, and then I walked in on my mother making out with her father.

46:22🔗 Drew Her father?

46:23🔗 Caller Well, I don't know if they're making out or having sex or what.

46:27🔗 Drew Her father?

46:28🔗 Caller Yeah. I mean, this is real bad. I mean, it's just, I don't know. It's like an ulterior motive of some kind.

46:37🔗 Adam All right. So your mom's a little out of control. You've been out of the house since you were 16? Since you were 17 or 16? And is this part of the reason you got out of the house so early?

46:50🔗 Caller Definitely. All right.

46:51🔗 Adam And you're working now? No.

46:53🔗 Caller Right now I'm living with my uncle and finishing up high school.

46:57🔗 Adam Okay. So you got out of there because your mom's a pain in the ass. Okay. Well, listen, I'm not going to lie to you. This is going to screw you up a little with chicks. But you're 18 and you already know what's going on. So, L, by the time you're 37, 38, you should be able to date. No, Aaron, seriously, you're 18 and you understand. I mean, you're not in massive denial. You're not out trying to have a conquest every night. You're not taking women and treating them like robots. You understand your dynamic. And that's pretty important and pretty evolved and unusual to tender age of 18. So maybe you get a little therapy. Maybe you read a few books and you understand your situation and you work on it and everything turns out fine. As a matter of fact, I think you come out better than people who have had no strife in their life and have never attempted to understand it and who have never done any work on themselves.

47:51🔗 Caller And he understands that's not normal as well.

47:53🔗 Adam Right. Yeah. It's tough when Mommy does that. But I think Aaron will be all right. Kind of forces you to grow up. Oh my God.

48:01🔗 Caller Therapy is good though, right?

48:03🔗 Caller Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

48:04🔗 Adam Yeah. Going tomorrow morning. You're laughing. I'm serious. We got to go to break?

48:10🔗 Drew Yeah.

48:10🔗 Caller All right. All right.

48:11🔗 Adam We'll do that. Who are we going to talk to when we come back?

48:13🔗 Drew We're going to wait to see what comes on this lovely screen.

48:16🔗 Adam You don't see anything you like?

48:17🔗 Drew Right.

48:18🔗 Adam All right. Save Ferris is here. We'll take a break. And actually the next call is so controversial that we're not allowed to talk about it on the air. It's like when appliance stores have those sales where the prices are so low that they can't give the price. They can't give the price on air. There's some sort of federal law that prohibits you from talking about large discounts on like toaster ovens and things. That's what's going on. This next call is so titillating, so controversial in content that we cannot discuss it until we're actually talking to the person. Right, Drew? Yes.

48:49🔗 Caller You won't want to miss it.

48:50🔗 Adam We'll be back.

48:52🔗 Caller Loveline, be right back in a minute.

49:18🔗 Adam It is Loveline. We got to take a quick ten-second timeout, and we will be back with more of the Family Show in just ten seconds.

49:43🔗 Adam It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew. Allison Hannigan and Jason Biggs are both here tonight from American Pie. Huge buzz about this film, and I don't even know how the whole buzz thing works exactly. For some reason, normally, when you're not talking about blockbuster type movies, big budgets, I don't know what the budget was on this thing. Do you know?

50:06🔗 $11 million. That's it.

50:10🔗 Adam I'll tell you. I'm going to switch subjects for a minute here and talk about budget. This is the way to go. You couldn't, I mean, if the movie never came out, everyone would make their money back just on video. You could never, this movie could burn and never come out on Friday, and three months from now they could release it on video, and then six months from now they could do it in Europe or something, and it would make its money back, or to HBO or Cinemax or whatever it is. I don't understand these movies that go 85, 90, 100 million dollars, big sci-fi, this and that. It seems like the biggest roll of the dice in the world. This is 11 million bucks, which sounded like a lot at one time, but as we now know, it's just a medium-sized house in Malibu these days. It's like one and a half car garage.

50:59🔗 Guest It's a fixer-upper.

51:02🔗 Adam That's right. It's going to make 11 million in its first week. It'll double it in its first week. It's nothing. It's like diabolical. It's genius. You get a bunch of people, some of whom you're familiar with, some who you're not, and you don't have to pay them a ton. I'm sure you guys are here to say that you're not going to retire off of this. No. No. No. Why not? As a matter of fact, in a way, watching the movie, especially when it's a coming-of-age thing, it's less distracting to see people that aren't household names on the screen. Because the guy is supposed to be playing a 17, 18-year-old high school student, and when you go, yeah, it's Luke Perry. Yeah, he had a problem with heroin before his last divorce. It's a little distracting, but it's diabolical. I don't know how the buzz thing gets going. How do you do that? I don't know.

52:05🔗 Guest I wish I could bottle it though, because it's gray. Yeah.

52:08🔗 Adam Is it just pure and simple word of mouth, few people see a premiere, few people start talking to their friends, and it's totally organic, or is there some spin doctor somewhere that does this?

52:20🔗 Guest You know how they have those test screenings to see the audience reactions and see if they need to make changes to the movies or whatever?

52:26🔗 Adam Right.

52:26🔗 Guest Well, I remember hearing the first one went so well that they just didn't want to do anything and they wanted to release it right away and then they kept pushing it back going, well, no, maybe it will hold off and you know. Yeah. And so they would screen it every once in a while or whatever and people would just be talking about it.

52:43🔗 Adam So it has been ready for a while.

52:46🔗 Oh, it was. They, after the first screening, which went so unbelievably well, they moved it all the way up. Yeah. Supposedly like some of the highest numbers Universal has ever gotten. I mean, that's, you know, that's.

52:58🔗 Adam It's perfect, too, because it's got the whole Jason Bang and the pie and all that stuff, plenty of stuff for everyone to have fun with. When you see it, it's not nearly as offensive as it may sound. Yeah, no.

53:10🔗 It's fun for the whole family.

53:12🔗 Caller Yeah, it's just fun.

53:15🔗 Adam Mary? Marie? Marie.

53:16🔗 Marie.

53:17🔗 Adam You're 24. Yes. What's going on?

53:20🔗 Caller Well, I've been back together with my ex-boyfriend for about five months or so. And we had been together about two years ago for about two years. We lived with each other. And, well, pretty much in a nutshell, we have a wonderful sex life, very active. We do a lot of things.

53:40🔗 Drew What's the question, Marie?

53:41🔗 Caller Exciting. I'm trying to get him to feel more comfortable when he masturbates in front of me. I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions to tie your men in.

53:50🔗 Drew Well, Adam, isn't that something you do routinely?

53:53🔗 Adam Yeah.

53:55🔗 Caller No, it's not a routine, like, you know, every single time, but, you know, a few times a month maybe. And he just doesn't seem comfortable, you know, regardless of what I try, if I try to, like...

54:06🔗 Adam Why do you got to be there if he's masturbating, though? I mean, why does he need to masturbate when you're there? Does that turn you on?

54:11🔗 Caller No, no, no, I'm talking like a mutual masturbation, more as foreplay for sex.

54:16🔗 Adam Right. But, so, he's not really masturbating. See, to me, masturbating is like with intent to orgasm. Other than that, you're diddling. Do you know what I mean? It's a difference between...

54:30🔗 Caller Well, it's a different mindset.

54:32🔗 Adam Yeah, it's like, you know, when you're masturbating, it's like you're planning an assassination. I mean, you're climbing up to the book depository, you're lining up the crosshairs. I mean, you really have intent, as opposed to just like running someone over on the way home when you're drunk.

54:45🔗 Drew Or just cleaning the gun.

54:46🔗 Adam Yeah, it's just sort of sitting home and just polishing the barrel a little bit. Right. Right. So, he's sort of touching himself, you're touching yourself, and then you're going to touch each other.

54:59🔗 Caller Exactly.

54:59🔗 Adam And before he has his orgasm.

55:02🔗 Caller Before after, yeah. Obviously, I'd rather before.

55:05🔗 Adam Before he has his orgasm, right? Yes?

55:08🔗 Caller Yes. And it's just like, you know, a little something.

55:10🔗 Adam Why can't people just answer these goddamn questions? So, he's uncomfortable sort of chubbing up in front of you?

55:17🔗 Caller Yeah, pretty much.

55:19🔗 Adam All right. Does he have to do that? Why do you have to go through that ritual?

55:23🔗 Caller Well, he doesn't have to. He's, see, this is the weird thing. And he'll constantly tell me about, like, you know, when we're not together, of, oh, I was thinking about you, and I started touching myself. And he's very graphic that way. But then when it actually comes to, okay, well, you know, show me what you're doing, he just, he'll do it, and I'll see that he's excited by it. But I also see, like, that part of him, like, feels uncomfortable about it. But he'll never tell me that he feels uncomfortable.

55:50🔗 Adam How do you know he feels uncomfortable?

55:52🔗 Caller You just kind of look, you know, when you know someone that well, that you just kind of feel that they're not 100% comfortable doing it.

55:57🔗 Adam Yeah, but listen, whenever someone masturbates, they're going to be mugging a little bit, you know? You never quite know what's going through a man's mind.

56:05🔗 Caller Well, that's why I'm going up too bad.

56:07🔗 Adam Look, I look uncomfortable when I masturbate. By yourself. By myself. I've caught myself in the mirror a time or two. I look very uncomfortable.

56:16🔗 Caller Yeah, but when you're with a woman, why would you feel uncomfortable if the woman's across from you doing the same thing?

56:21🔗 Adam Listen, I can't whack off with a cat in the room without feeling a little uncomfortable.

56:25🔗 Caller Now you sound like the guy that you were talking about before.

56:27🔗 Adam Listen, who's this? The nanny, by the way? My God. All right, listen, Marie, stop doing this. Why don't you just have sex like everyone else? Oh, please.

56:37🔗 Caller That's exciting. You sound boring.

56:39🔗 Adam I know, but listen, can't he go masturbate when he's alone and you can masturbate when you're alone?

56:44🔗 Drew What's up with you, Marie? You can't just have a relationship. You've got to keep up on the ante here.

56:49🔗 Adam You've got to keep pressing.

56:50🔗 Drew Yeah. Why can't you just establish a relationship? Yeah.

56:54🔗 Guest I mean, he's doing it.

56:55🔗 Caller Well, we've established a relationship. We've lived together before and have been together for a few months now.

57:00🔗 Drew Eating disorder, Marie? Ever have an eating disorder?

57:04🔗 Caller An eating disorder?

57:05🔗 Drew Yeah.

57:06🔗 Caller No, not at all.

57:07🔗 Adam Yeah. Take any ballet when you were young?

57:10🔗 Caller No, actually, I can't dance too well.

57:13🔗 Adam Piano lessons?

57:14🔗 Guest What are you going for?

57:16🔗 Drew Where are you guys going? We're trying to figure out why she has this trouble thing.

57:19🔗 Guest Well, I understand your questions with ballet.

57:21🔗 Drew Well, it's the same class.

57:22🔗 Adam Eating disorder.

57:23🔗 Caller Well, just the same way that he asked me to try different things, I like to ask him to try different things.

57:28🔗 Guest But you said he does do it. You just think he looks uncomfortable.

57:32🔗 Caller Right. I was just wondering if there was other things maybe that I could do to make him feel a little...

57:37🔗 Adam Get the hell out of the room. That doesn't make him more comfortable.

57:40🔗 Guest I think you probably have to ask him.

57:42🔗 Caller All right.

57:43🔗 Adam All right, listen.

57:43🔗 Caller You have to be a little bit more open on your sexual attitude, especially someone from younger people.

57:49🔗 Adam Listen. Listen to me. Listen to me, you screwball. Here's what you're saying. He says he's not uncomfortable when he's masturbating in front of me, but I know he's uncomfortable. All right. First off, that doesn't really mean anything because how do you know he's uncomfortable if he says he's comfortable? And what is he doing? Is he sweating profusely from the brow and biting his nails while he's masturbating?

58:11🔗 Drew And number two, we get the real sense that you have difficulty with real intimacy. Genuine intimacy, and your relationships are about creating more excitement and more chaos and more up in the anti's all over the place as opposed to the real mutuality that's necessary for two people to be intimate.

58:29🔗 Caller Why? Because I'm calling up asking about a certain part of our sexual life?

58:34🔗 Drew No, Marie, it's the general affect with which you're delivering this stuff.

58:40🔗 Caller Well, I wasn't aware of-

58:41🔗 Drew I know you're not aware of it. Listen, we're not meant to argue. We're just giving you our impression of this.

58:46🔗 Adam All right. So, Marie, I'm not sure what your question is. How do you make him more comfortable when he's master bang? I don't know.

58:51🔗 Caller According to you guys, I don't, and I should just put that away in a little box somewhere and keep it hidden.

58:57🔗 Guest No, you should ask him if you think he's uncomfortable.

58:59🔗 Adam He says he's not uncomfortable though.

59:02🔗 Caller I don't know what makes me uncomfortable. He'll ask me to do it, and I guess I figure if he asks me to do it, then he should feel comfortable doing it as well.

59:08🔗 Adam He'll ask you to masturbate?

59:10🔗 Caller Right.

59:11🔗 Adam All right, so do you do that?

59:14🔗 Drew That's what you need to do to make him comfortable.

59:15🔗 Guest Sure.

59:16🔗 Adam All right.

59:16🔗 Guest But he does it.

59:18🔗 Caller All right, have a great night.

59:19🔗 Adam Listen, good night. We know from doing the show, Marie is a screwball.

59:23🔗 Drew Yeah.

59:23🔗 Adam Yeah, I don't even know what her question is.

59:25🔗 Guest But she's saying he does it. She just didn't like his expression.

59:28🔗 Drew No, people like Marie, we were going to get, we were both going for very intrusive parents.

59:34🔗 Adam Really?

59:35🔗 Drew Well, you were going for that, the ballet and the palisades.

59:37🔗 Adam I was just following your lead. I don't know what's up with her, but I know it ain't. See, here's the deal. Here's what I figured out from this show, and it is one of the reasons I want to kill myself. I have a whole long list about strippers all being molested and all that stuff. I got a whole long, it's in my basement. You guys will find it later. But we know there's no women like Marie. They're just art. I mean, there's women that are horny and there's women that are sexy. And there's women that are amorous. And there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't mean something's wrong with you. But I could tell from Marie's voice and Drew could tell from Marie's voice that this had nothing to do with sex. And that's the thing. Marie's thing is, hey, why are you two old guys so uptight? I just want to have a little fun with my boyfriend and you're cramping on my parade. Why do you got to be so uptight? Our thing is, is that if it has to do purely with sex, have at it. Put a broomstick in your ass, enjoy yourself, do whatever you like. I'm an atheist, I whack off once a day, I'm not casting any judgment on anybody else. But this has nothing to do with sex. This has to do with like control and feelings and, you know, they broke up and then moved back in together. She wants to know, he's masturbating, he says he's fine, but I know he's not, you know. That has nothing to do with sex. She thinks it has everything to do with sex, it really has nothing to do with sex. That's right. Justin.

1:01:02🔗 Caller Um, hi.

1:01:04🔗 Adam Hi, you're 14.

1:01:05🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:01:06🔗 Adam What's going on?

1:01:07🔗 Caller I caught my mom masturbating.

1:01:10🔗 Adam Oh, we got a real theme night going. Did, was she comfortable?

1:01:15🔗 Caller I don't know, she didn't notice me. I heard her and I kind of just looked through the crack and I saw her and I just kind of ran away.

1:01:25🔗 Guest I found my mom's vibrator once and it freaked me out.

1:01:29🔗 Caller Really?

1:01:29🔗 Drew How old were you?

1:01:29🔗 Guest I was like 14, probably. It just freaked me out.

1:01:33🔗 Drew All right, so talk to Justin.

1:01:34🔗 Guest It was the first time I had ever seen anything like that and I was just like, what's this? My friend's like, oh.

1:01:39🔗 Adam That's excellent.

1:01:40🔗 Guest It was disgusting.

1:01:42🔗 Adam Ma, all the bristles fell off the electric toothbrush.

1:01:45🔗 Guest Oh my God.

1:01:45🔗 Adam Why are you hiding in your shoe box?

1:01:48🔗 Guest Oh, it was, yeah, but she wasn't even home and it was quite disturbing.

1:01:54🔗 Drew So how did you deal with it?

1:01:55🔗 Guest I just ran out of the room screaming. I was like, oh.

1:01:59🔗 Caller But you must have had feelings for a while afterwards.

1:02:01🔗 Guest What?

1:02:01🔗 Drew You must have had feelings for a while afterwards. How did you deal with them?

1:02:04🔗 Guest I was just like, oh.

1:02:06🔗 Adam Well, she was 14.

1:02:06🔗 Guest Yeah, I mean.

1:02:07🔗 Drew I was just asking. We got to help Justin here.

1:02:08🔗 Guest I didn't really, you know.

1:02:10🔗 Adam Oh, Justin's 14 too.

1:02:10🔗 Drew He's decided to go into acting at that moment.

1:02:12🔗 Adam All right, well, hold on a second. What is worse, finding the vibrator or hearing the air?

1:02:18🔗 Guest Hearing a mother.

1:02:19🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:02:20🔗 Guest If my mom was there, yeah, that would have been horrible. So I really don't know how to deal with that. It's different because he's a boy.

1:02:31🔗 Adam Yeah, there is a little difference.

1:02:33🔗 Guest That's his mother.

1:02:33🔗 Adam Hey, but Justin?

1:02:35🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:02:36🔗 Adam You're 14, right?

1:02:38🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:02:39🔗 Adam You're not a kid anymore. 14.

1:02:41🔗 Guest Yeah, you are. Well, I mean.

1:02:43🔗 Adam It's not that. Listen.

1:02:46🔗 Guest I had never seen a vibrator before.

1:02:48🔗 Adam Don't get me wrong. It's not something I'd want to see every weekend, but it's not going to stunt your growth.

1:02:54🔗 Drew You're not six. You'll get past six months. But it would bother you, of course. Unfortunately, you have nowhere to go with this kind of thing.

1:03:03🔗 Adam Here's what I'm saying, though.

1:03:03🔗 Guest I mean, bottom line, how do you feel about it? Just weird.

1:03:06🔗 Drew Justin? Yeah? Answer what Alison was asking.

1:03:11🔗 Guest I mean, what do you feel right now?

1:03:13🔗 Caller I'm scared looking at her because I can't always think about it.

1:03:18🔗 Adam What? Is your dad gone?

1:03:21🔗 Caller No.

1:03:21🔗 Caller It's like a normal family.

1:03:23🔗 Adam So your folks aren't divorced or anything?

1:03:25🔗 Caller No.

1:03:28🔗 Adam Your mom was in her bedroom?

1:03:29🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:03:31🔗 Adam She didn't shut the door?

1:03:33🔗 Caller It was open a little bit.

1:03:36🔗 Adam I'm going to give my, you got to put a lock on your bedroom door speech and not a padlock.

1:03:40🔗 Drew Or what do you call it?

1:03:41🔗 Adam Storage locker.

1:03:42🔗 Drew What do you call it? Barrel bolt.

1:03:44🔗 Adam Alright, Justin?

1:03:45🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:03:46🔗 Adam Here's the thing. This is, and I know you guys don't like my brand of tough love slash psychology, but this issue will be as big as you make it. It really is. You could freak yourself out about it. You could see her masturbating every time you see her. You could really do some serious ass to your psyche thinking about it. Or you could realize everyone does this. It's too bad you had to run into it, but your mom's not the only mom that's ever done this. You just happened, your timing was a little bit off, and just get on with your life.

1:04:18🔗 Drew He needs to be able to talk to somebody about this, though. I don't mean professionally. This is all in his head right now.

1:04:25🔗 Adam What are you, in the 9th grade?

1:04:26🔗 Drew Yeah, he had visuals.

1:04:27🔗 What do you mean, like, talk to who?

1:04:28🔗 Drew You're friends with somebody. You're going into the 10th. I know friends are going to be...

1:04:32🔗 A friend, a 14-year-old friend is not going to respond well to that kind of...

1:04:37🔗 Drew No, I understand.

1:04:37🔗 Adam He's going to buy billboard space out.

1:04:40🔗 Drew No, I understand. But the point is, that adds to his isolation with these feelings.

1:04:44🔗 Adam Hold on a second.

1:04:45🔗 Guest Do you have any brothers or sisters?

1:04:47🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:04:47🔗 Drew Older?

1:04:48🔗 Adam Older?

1:04:49🔗 Caller Younger.

1:04:50🔗 Guest Don't talk to them.

1:04:51🔗 Adam Keep them out of the loop. I'll tell you, whatever you want for Christmas next year is yours, by the way.

1:04:56🔗 Drew Well, she doesn't know he's son.

1:04:58🔗 Adam She's going to find out. There's a series of anonymous letters. What are you going into? The 10th grade?

1:05:04🔗 Caller 9th.

1:05:04🔗 Adam You're going into the 9th grade. Okay, so you understand. You don't masturbate yourself.

1:05:10🔗 Caller No.

1:05:10🔗 Adam This is all going to come very clearly into focus in about another 8 months, though. Believe me. Justin?

1:05:16🔗 Guest Yeah, I mean, it's not as weird as you think it is.

1:05:19🔗 Adam Well, here's the thing that I've figured out from this show, too. There's 14, there's 14, and there's 14. We talked to 14-year-olds and like, after I gave up smoking and heroin and got my divorce, things fell out for a while.

1:05:33🔗 Guest You know, I was totally like him, 14. Like, I was oblivious. My friend who I ran out of the room with, her parents were married and everything, and they showered together every day. And I just, when I found that out, I was shocked. Like, together? What do you mean? I don't understand.

1:05:52🔗 Adam It's amazing. By the time everyone gets 16, 17, 18, everyone gets on the same page. But there's this weird thing about 12, 13, 14, it's usually like 13, 14, 15, that there's 14-year-olds that act like they're Vietnam vets on this show that we'll talk to. Seen it all, not fazed by anything, smoking pot chronically, listening to rap music. I mean, whacking off on the Internet, just planning their next pipe bomb. Then there's 14-year-olds like who we just talked to was like, I mean, very naive, very sheltered sounding. But here's what I'm saying. That'll pass. 15. Let's not freak them out. 14, he's a teenager, he's fine, this is what goes on. Don't freak yourself out and move on. You don't need therapy, you don't have to talk to your counselor about it. You should not be that freaked out by this. You should get over it. I know that's not our job, but I'm telling them just get over it and move on. It's not that big a deal. Okay. And you know what, by the way? I think when you downplay things, it makes people more apt to get over them anyway. You know what I mean?

1:07:06🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:07:07🔗 Adam Okay. Erin?

1:07:09🔗 Caller Yeah?

1:07:10🔗 Adam You're 19.

1:07:11🔗 Caller Hi, Adam.

1:07:12🔗 Adam Hey.

1:07:12🔗 Caller Hey, Jason and Alison. Yes.

1:07:15🔗 Hello.

1:07:16🔗 Caller Hi. I saw a sneak preview of American Pie.

1:07:19🔗 Oh, yeah?

1:07:20🔗 Caller I loved it.

1:07:21🔗 Great. Thank you.

1:07:22🔗 Caller Thank you.

1:07:22🔗 Caller I thought it was great.

1:07:24🔗 Caller I just, it was wonderful.

1:07:25🔗 Caller Yay. Thanks.

1:07:27🔗 Adam What was your favorite part?

1:07:29🔗 Caller My favorite part was What's My Name, Bitch?

1:07:33🔗 Yeah, I agree. That's one of my favorites too.

1:07:36🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:07:36🔗 Adam Yeah. That was Alison's life.

1:07:39🔗 Caller And also Stifler drinking the beer in the beginning.

1:07:41🔗 Oh, yeah.

1:07:41🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:07:42🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:07:43🔗 Caller Yep. Cool.

1:07:44🔗 Well, great. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

1:07:46🔗 Guest Thank you.

1:07:47🔗 Adam Did you pay for this or did you go for free?

1:07:50🔗 Caller No, I paid for it.

1:07:51🔗 Adam OK, good.

1:07:51🔗 Guest Thank you even more.

1:07:52🔗 Thank you even more. Are you going to pay again?

1:07:55🔗 Caller I just might.

1:07:56🔗 Guest Yay.

1:07:56🔗 Adam Yay.

1:07:57🔗 Caller All right.

1:07:57🔗 Guest Thank you.

1:07:58🔗 Adam You know, the other thing that's good too, I just saw about this, somewhere in life, that whole see a movie twice thing becomes an impossibility. Like, an absurd, some kind of privilege.

1:08:10🔗 Drew My kids have seen Tarzan three times.

1:08:12🔗 Adam That's my point. That's my point. When you do a movie, and I'm not calling this a kids movie, but when you do a movie where younger folks can go see, kind of folks who like have the summer off kind of thing, got a little time to kill, they'll go see a movie three, four times. You're not going to see, 35 year old people don't see a movie three, four times. Drew, you're lucky for you. Drew, have you seen The Shining yet?

1:08:35🔗 Drew No.

1:08:35🔗 Adam All right.

1:08:36🔗 Drew I have to catch it up to do.

1:08:37🔗 Adam That's right. There's a movie called Wings.

1:08:40🔗 Guest I have a 33 year old friend who's already seen South Park three times.

1:08:43🔗 Adam Really? 33?

1:08:45🔗 Guest Yes.

1:08:45🔗 Adam He's a mental patient. Wings won, it was the first movie to win the best picture in like 1929, you and me. Oh, please. Geez, I can't even make an intellectual joke in front of this guy. It's a mess.

1:08:56🔗 Drew I was thinking 85 to 95 where I was absent. You could say insert whatever name you want there.

1:09:02🔗 Adam Wings won the first.

1:09:03🔗 Drew I know, I understand. No, I wasn't thinking in that, you know, sad.

1:09:06🔗 Adam I know, that's why I gave the title. All right, let's not bicker. Let's not bicker. Alison Hannigan and Jason Biggs are both here from American Pie. Yes, I saw premiere of South Park 2. We'll be back after this. Hey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is a board certified decision to admit that his phone number is 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Kid Rock is our guest tonight. Devil Without A Cause is the name of the CD. We'll go back to the phones. Mary?

1:10:02🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:10:03🔗 Adam You're 13.

1:10:04🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:10:05🔗 Adam Your boyfriend is pressuring you to have sex?

1:10:09🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:10:09🔗 Adam How old is he?

1:10:11🔗 Caller He is 18. Wow.

1:10:13🔗 Adam Perfectly natural.

1:10:15🔗 Caller What's his name?

1:10:17🔗 Adam 18 years old?

1:10:19🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:10:20🔗 Adam What grade are you in?

1:10:22🔗 Caller Me?

1:10:22🔗 Caller Eighth.

1:10:23🔗 Adam Eighth grade.

1:10:24🔗 Drew Do you love him? He's out of high school.

1:10:27🔗 Adam Is he out of high school?

1:10:31🔗 Caller No. He's in 12th grade.

1:10:33🔗 Adam He's in 12th grade?

1:10:34🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:10:35🔗 Adam All right. How long have you been going out with him?

1:10:41🔗 Caller About two months.

1:10:43🔗 Drew How did you meet him?

1:10:45🔗 Caller How did I meet him? Through friends.

1:10:46🔗 Drew Through friends.

1:10:47🔗 Caller How did I know that?

1:10:48🔗 Adam Yeah. Do you hang out with older kids?

1:10:52🔗 Caller Well, some of my friends are my age, and they hang out with people older than them, and then I met them.

1:10:59🔗 Drew What do you do when you hang out with 18-year-olds?

1:11:02🔗 Caller Huh?

1:11:04🔗 Drew What do you do with 18-year-olds? What do you do when you hang out?

1:11:06🔗 Guest Do you drink alcohol?

1:11:08🔗 Caller No.

1:11:09🔗 Drew Do you smoke pot with them?

1:11:10🔗 Caller Does your boyfriend?

1:11:11🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:11:12🔗 Drew Do you smoke pot with them?

1:11:13🔗 Caller No.

1:11:14🔗 Drew What do you do when you hang out with 18-year-olds?

1:11:17🔗 Caller Just get out of the movies and hang around.

1:11:21🔗 Adam Just kick it. Chill. I don't know what's up with these 18-year-olds, but when I was a senior in high school, I didn't want to hang out with juniors. You know what I mean?

1:11:29🔗 Guest With status to get an older girl.

1:11:31🔗 Adam Yeah, much less hang out with an eighth grader. I mean, that's kind of pathetic. You don't think it's pathetic because you're the one he shouldn't be hanging around with.

1:11:41🔗 Drew But you also can't judge how disturbed this guy is. An 18-year-old that is hanging with a 13-year-old has got something wrong. Yeah. You're not in a position to judge that.

1:11:51🔗 Adam Unless he's in a rock band.

1:11:53🔗 Drew Let's put it this way, Mary. If you were-

1:11:55🔗 Adam Then it's okay.

1:11:56🔗 Drew If, let's say, some of you are 13-year-old male friends.

1:12:00🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:12:00🔗 Drew What if one of them decided suddenly they wanted to go out with a seven-year-old? Would you think there's something wrong with him?

1:12:06🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:12:06🔗 Drew It's the same deal, Mary.

1:12:08🔗 Adam Well, it's not quite as weird.

1:12:09🔗 Drew It's the same deal.

1:12:10🔗 Adam No, it is not the same deal, you idiot.

1:12:13🔗 Drew I got no idea.

1:12:13🔗 Adam Because it's not the same deal. Hold on, kid.

1:12:16🔗 Drew Settle down.

1:12:17🔗 Adam Settle down, kid. It's not the same deal because it's not like an 18-year-old and a 25-year-old. It's as bad as an 18-year-old or an 18-year-old and a 23-year-old, smartass.

1:12:29🔗 Drew I'm saying that it is for her. All right, then let's put it this way. It would not be the same as a 13-year-old and a 10-year-old.

1:12:37🔗 Adam I got a 13, 10 and a half.

1:12:39🔗 Drew Okay. All right, so maybe a 13 and somebody in fifth grade.

1:12:42🔗 Adam Right.

1:12:42🔗 Drew Wouldn't you think that was kind of weird? Yeah. It's the same deal. That's the same deal.

1:12:46🔗 Caller I'll bump anything that moves, but not under 18.

1:12:49🔗 Drew Right.

1:12:50🔗 Guest I mean, even I got some morals there.

1:12:52🔗 Drew And the 10-year-old will probably think, oh, it's cool. I'm dating an eighth grader, right?

1:12:55🔗 Caller Yeah, probably.

1:12:57🔗 Drew Okay. It's the same situation.

1:12:58🔗 Adam All right. So Mary, why don't you just end this? You're in over your head. And believe me, we talked to people like you all the time six months from now and they got raped. That's what happens. Well, they got the guy. What kind of car does he drive?

1:13:15🔗 Caller Camaro.

1:13:15🔗 Drew Starts with an L.

1:13:16🔗 Adam What kind of car does he drive?

1:13:18🔗 Caller He doesn't drive a car.

1:13:19🔗 Adam Okay, that's good, because he'd be driving the rape mobile if he did have a car.

1:13:24🔗 Caller What kind of shoes does he wear?

1:13:25🔗 Caller Huh?

1:13:27🔗 Caller Let's find out what this kid looks like.

1:13:29🔗 Adam I'm done with Mary. He's got his hat back. Mary's first answer is, huh?

1:13:34🔗 Caller Huh?

1:13:34🔗 Drew But Mary's been through a lot to get herself into this place.

1:13:37🔗 Adam Stay away from him, Mary.

1:13:39🔗 Caller That's way deeper than that is.

1:13:41🔗 Adam Mary, you got your virginity. And believe me, you're going to have it for another 10 minutes. I can hear it in your voice. Hang on to it. Cherish it. Hang on to it with both hands. I want you to walk with both hands cupped over your crotch for the next five years and stay away from this guy.

1:13:58🔗 Drew We have yet to talk to a fortune-roll who is happy with her decision to have sex at that age. Every fortune-roll that gives up their virginity at 14 is miserably disappointed.

1:14:07🔗 Adam She's 13.

1:14:08🔗 Drew I understand.

1:14:09🔗 Adam Right. Okay. But what do you think the chance is she's going to keep it for another three, four years?

1:14:14🔗 Drew I'm suspicious that there may already be a problem. How is Jimmy doing, by the way?

1:14:18🔗 Adam He's doing good, working a lot.

1:14:20🔗 Drew What did he call me about yesterday?

1:14:22🔗 Adam Oh, he thinks he has an ulcer.

1:14:24🔗 Drew Oh, right, right, right.

1:14:25🔗 Adam Right.

1:14:26🔗 Drew He does.

1:14:27🔗 Adam How do you know?

1:14:28🔗 Drew Let's see. He got a good story for it.

1:14:29🔗 Adam I told him to take some of that, is it Tagament?

1:14:33🔗 Drew Pepsid.

1:14:33🔗 Adam Pepsid.

1:14:34🔗 Drew He's supposed to take two twice a day.

1:14:35🔗 Adam That's what you take?

1:14:36🔗 Drew That's what he's taking. You can talk about like dildos and stuff on the show, right?

1:14:38🔗 Adam He can also do Xantech. Oh, yeah.

1:14:40🔗 Drew He can take Xantech three times a day.

1:14:41🔗 Caller Can I tell him a joke?

1:14:41🔗 Adam Yeah, tell your dildo joke. All right, cool.

1:14:43🔗 Caller So there's this girl. She's like 35 years old, a little overweight.

1:14:46🔗 Caller She lives at home still.

1:14:47🔗 Caller She's in the bathroom.

1:14:48🔗 Guest Her mom's cooking dinner. Her mom walks over to the bathroom.

1:14:52🔗 Caller She looks in.

1:14:54🔗 Guest So my god, you know, she's got the dildo up in her daughter. She's like, what are you doing? She's like, Mom, I'm 35, never been married. I don't have a boyfriend.

1:15:01🔗 Caller She's like, this is my husband.

1:15:03🔗 Caller You know, she's like, OK, fine.

1:15:05🔗 Guest Next night, her mom's cooking dinner.

1:15:06🔗 Caller Here's the same noise.

1:15:08🔗 Guest Hear that?

1:15:09🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:15:10🔗 Caller All of a sudden, he goes into the bathroom.

1:15:11🔗 Guest She looks in her husband's sitting on the toilet. He's got this thing up his, what would you say, rectum or something? Sure.

1:15:16🔗 Caller He's sitting on the toilet, he's drinking a beer.

1:15:18🔗 Caller He's like, hi.

1:15:19🔗 Caller She freaks out.

1:15:19🔗 Guest She's like, what are you doing?

1:15:21🔗 Caller He's like, what do you think I'm doing?

1:15:22🔗 Caller I'm having a beer with your son-in-law.

1:15:27🔗 Adam Thank you.

1:15:28🔗 Guest I'll be here all night.

1:15:29🔗 Adam I love good vibrator comedy. Jason.

1:15:31🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:15:32🔗 Adam You're 23.

1:15:33🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:15:34🔗 Adam What's going on?

1:15:36🔗 Caller Well, first I want to say hi to Kid Rock. How's it going? It's going pretty good. Good. Good. I was thinking, you know, you guys always go into Adam's, you know, masturbation all the time. And you never really get into what causes it. And I was always listening because I go into that and I probably do it as much, if not as more.

1:15:55🔗 Drew Than Adam does.

1:15:57🔗 Caller Yeah. Adam.

1:15:57🔗 Drew Well, first of all, how am I going to get into what Adam's motivation is? He won't even talk to his damn therapist about it. He's a therapist once or twice a week and he will not talk to his therapist about his sexual behaviors. I mean, that is bizarre.

1:16:09🔗 Adam I whack off when I get home from work. Okay.

1:16:12🔗 Drew Then talk to... What else? I mean, you should be talking about this.

1:16:14🔗 Adam Why do I need to talk to my therapist about masturbating once a day?

1:16:19🔗 Guest I think it's healthy.

1:16:20🔗 Drew I'm not saying it's not, but somebody wants to figure out why and...

1:16:24🔗 Adam Listen, you know my theory. If I start talking about it, I'm going to begin masturbating right there in the therapist's office.

1:16:31🔗 Drew That may be perceived as a problem.

1:16:34🔗 Adam That's why I'm not going to talk about it.

1:16:35🔗 Drew That's my point.

1:16:37🔗 Caller I'd like to talk about it.

1:16:38🔗 Guest I usually masturbate right on my therapist.

1:16:40🔗 Adam Really? That's not a therapist.

1:16:42🔗 Caller That's payment right there.

1:16:43🔗 Adam Is it an Asian woman?

1:16:43🔗 Caller Paid in full. How'd you like that?

1:16:46🔗 Caller See that? No problem.

1:16:47🔗 Caller I'll see you next week. Oh, yeah.

1:16:49🔗 Drew But Jason, there are a lot of reasons people do this. That varies all the way from some very deep-seated, aggressive tendencies to just the biology. I'm just suspecting. Some people, that's their biology. And some people do it as a way of managing certain kinds of feelings that are unpleasant.

1:17:09🔗 Guest Sometimes it's just quicker.

1:17:11🔗 Caller Well, mine leads to certain other thoughts that, like you guys say, it's okay to have thoughts but don't act on them.

1:17:17🔗 Drew What are your other thoughts?

1:17:18🔗 Caller Well, it's like... Why do you get freaky? I'm really into a lot of bondage and stuff.

1:17:23🔗 Adam Yeah. How many times do you masturbate a day?

1:17:27🔗 Caller Oh, at least once, most of the time, twice.

1:17:29🔗 Adam That's not that much. No.

1:17:30🔗 Caller Once in the morning, once at night. And I thought, you know, to me, that's... I mean, then when a girl comes around, she's already all mean. Sorry, I can't say that.

1:17:36🔗 Caller Well, you should be able to go all night then.

1:17:39🔗 Caller Well, no, I mean, that's cool. But it's like I'm not interested because I already did.

1:17:42🔗 Adam What are your bondage fantasies?

1:17:44🔗 Drew Well, I have one of them. So masturbation prevents you from being intimate, right? You do it so much that you're sort of worn out and can't. You think so, Luke? That's what he's telling me.

1:17:52🔗 Guest Sometimes I do it just so I can go longer, though.

1:17:54🔗 Drew I understand. But that's healthy. He says that he can't muster anything because he's not interested anymore.

1:18:02🔗 Caller Well, Kez already did it.

1:18:03🔗 Drew He's so burnt out. That's his thing.

1:18:05🔗 Adam Yeah, but listen. A 23-year-old guy who spanks it once or twice a day still has plenty of wind left in his sexual sail to get laid. 23-year-olds are horny. Jason's having some bondage fantasies. Jason's a little screwed up.

1:18:20🔗 Drew Were you physically abused, Jason, at one time?

1:18:22🔗 Caller Actually, no. I mean, not that I remember, anyway.

1:18:25🔗 Drew Nobody ever smacked you at all?

1:18:28🔗 Caller Well, yeah, I might have smacked my head at least, I guess, kind of smacked me on a little lightly though. Not really a major abuse, but a lot of them were the verbal abuse when I was younger.

1:18:36🔗 Drew So that kind of being the victim of that sort of aggression and those sorts of inappropriate behaviors can result in this kind of thing. Yeah. You might check out the SA big book, Sex Addicts Anonymous. They have a white book, a book with a white cover that really gets into some of the stuff that Jason's into.

1:18:56🔗 Adam Do they have that on cassette?

1:18:58🔗 Drew I'm going to look into it for you.

1:18:59🔗 Adam See about that.

1:18:59🔗 Drew I'm getting an award from the National Council on Sexual Compulsive and Addiction. I'm going to St. Louis on Friday. I'll tell you this.

1:19:05🔗 Adam No.

1:19:05🔗 Drew For what? There's actually a very substantial organization called the National Council on Sexual.

1:19:11🔗 Adam He's getting the bronze belly rag.

1:19:13🔗 Drew NCSC and Addiction, the National Council on Sexual Compulsive and Addiction.

1:19:16🔗 Adam It's a coveted award that's given out every year.

1:19:18🔗 Drew And it's a really quality group of health professionals.

1:19:23🔗 Adam Let me just take a moment to yell at all the folks.

1:19:25🔗 Drew And I will give you some homage for helping provide the vehicle.

1:19:30🔗 Adam Don't steal my thunder, Drew. Listen to me, all you troublemakers out there that want to give Drew awards left and right. He's constantly leaving town because he's the recipient of some sort of prestigious award. Meanwhile, I'm left here holding the bag, crying, picking up the pieces, trying to go on. Listen, you idiots, if it wasn't for me, no one would listen to Drew. Do you realize that? I got an award for you right here. You'd have one person in their 60s listening to this show in prison. Do you understand me, Drew? Why don't these people give me an award?

1:20:02🔗 Drew There it is.

1:20:03🔗 Caller I'm the vehicle.

1:20:04🔗 Drew I know. Right there. Thank you. I will happily acknowledge that.

1:20:07🔗 Adam All right.

1:20:08🔗 Drew As I accept my award.

1:20:09🔗 Adam Okay. Bring it back. We'll melt it down.

1:20:11🔗 Drew Fight it up.

1:20:12🔗 Adam What is it? Do you know what it is?

1:20:14🔗 Drew I imagine it's the certificate or something. But I don't know.

1:20:17🔗 Caller How many awards have you got now?

1:20:18🔗 Caller You should get like a bronzed...

1:20:22🔗 Drew I have gotten that many awards. I mean, I got the shine award with you.

1:20:26🔗 Adam It seems like you're traveling around picking up a lot of awards.

1:20:29🔗 Drew No, I'm doing a lot. No, no, no. I'm moderating a lot of panels. I do that kind of thing a lot.

1:20:34🔗 Adam All right. We're going to take a break. Who are we going to talk to when we come back, Drew? Manic Depression.

1:20:41🔗 Caller I do that.

1:20:42🔗 Adam Five-year-old son's friend plays a game where they play with themselves.

1:20:46🔗 Guest That's natural.

1:20:47🔗 Adam All right. Drew, you don't have to poke a hole in the screen. You can just point at it. Derek, who was 25, caught a boyfriend in their... What? Is that bed with another guy? Hold on a second. Oh. Derek? Derek?

1:21:01🔗 Caller Yes.

1:21:02🔗 Adam Are you gay?

1:21:04🔗 Caller Yeah, I am.

1:21:05🔗 Adam And you... I'm not flamboyant.

1:21:09🔗 Guest You don't sound like it.

1:21:10🔗 Adam Is your behind-man still intact?

1:21:12🔗 Caller Do I?

1:21:13🔗 Adam The behind-man.

1:21:14🔗 Caller The behind-man.

1:21:15🔗 Adam The behind-man. Is that still intact? Uh, yeah. It is? Yes, it is. Okay. I just want to know. And you caught your boyfriend screwing around with another guy.

1:21:25🔗 Caller Yeah, I did.

1:21:25🔗 Adam Okay, hold on. Hold on.

1:21:28🔗 Caller Slow down.

1:21:29🔗 Caller Slow.

1:21:30🔗 Adam Get the feathers in a bunch.

1:21:31🔗 Guest Stop now.

1:21:32🔗 Adam Hold it now. Please, kid.

1:21:34🔗 Caller I'm just serious.

1:21:36🔗 Adam This is a big part of our audience. I'm not here to judge.

1:21:38🔗 Caller I'm not judging.

1:21:40🔗 Adam Hold on now. We got to take a break. All right. We'll get into Derek with Kid Rock and whatever he's doing after this.

1:21:49🔗 Caller Loveline, be right back in a minute.

1:22:20🔗 Adam It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Anderson. Please turn that junk down. Thank you. I don't know what you're on tonight. Pat O'Brien, Access Hollywood, NBC, 730, or thereabouts. It varies from zone to zone. And sportspage.com.

1:22:44🔗 Caller I'd like to come into this room.

1:22:46🔗 Adam It's tough. I'm used to stoned rock bands who won't... You can call them by a different name and they just sit there. Jenny?

1:22:55🔗 Caller Hi.

1:22:56🔗 Adam You're 27. What's up?

1:22:58🔗 Caller Hey. Well, I kind of need your guys' opinion. I just found out recently that I have endometriosis. And so I've been going through a lot of pain. I've been dating the same guy for the last six months or so. He's older than me. And so we've been having a really good sex life. We only see each other on the weekends and we have a great sex life. But recently, because I've been in so much pain, he's really kind of backed off sexually.

1:23:35🔗 Drew How old is he?

1:23:36🔗 Caller He's 46.

1:23:37🔗 Caller Well, what is this endometriosis?

1:23:40🔗 Drew It's actually what we call inspeciated endometrium.

1:23:43🔗 Caller Oh, okay.

1:23:44🔗 Drew It's the lining of the uterus, the stuff that comes out during the period, goes back up into the abdomen and forms little areas of tissue that actually sort of menstruate and they irritate the hell out of the lining of the pelvis.

1:23:56🔗 Caller Yeah, it's not like the funnest thing I've ever done.

1:23:59🔗 Adam So, but it's all taken care of, right?

1:24:01🔗 Caller Well, no. Well, I just had surgery on it yesterday, so I'm feeling better in comparison to how I had been feeling, but through the whole...

1:24:11🔗 Adam But it's all taken care of, right?

1:24:13🔗 Drew It's a chronic thing. It's better.

1:24:14🔗 Adam You have to keep working on it?

1:24:15🔗 Drew Yeah, you have to keep working on it. And at her age, it begins to be a fertility issue, too.

1:24:19🔗 Caller Well, you've got to use tampoons, too. You've got to have those, you know, if you don't have that.

1:24:24🔗 Drew What are you talking about?

1:24:25🔗 Caller What?

1:24:25🔗 Caller That's Jimmy's voice by the way.

1:24:26🔗 Drew What the hell was that?

1:24:27🔗 Caller I know a lot about women's health.

1:24:28🔗 Caller Can you medicate this?

1:24:30🔗 Caller I don't even know why the period happens until you just explained it.

1:24:34🔗 Adam It's God punishing the gals. Jenny, punishing us. Jenny. All right. So your question is?

1:24:41🔗 Caller My question is, is anyway, he's been backing off the whole sex thing. And over the weekend, I just really I knew that I was going to be having the surgery and that I'd be on pelvic rest. So I really wanted to. I need this physical intimacy with him. I just have this need for it. And he was like, no, I don't want to. And it kind of became a thing. And he finally just said, you know, I'm kind of worried that sometimes I wonder if you're like a sexual addict or something. And I've just really been thinking about it lately. And I guess I'm wondering, like, what is a sexual addict?

1:25:18🔗 Drew Well, a sex addict is somebody who's an addict in general. Amongst their behaviors is a compulsive preoccupation with sexuality. And it usually replaces the pharmacologic addiction. And it's progressive. Things get worse. The consequences mount with time. Sexual compulsivity, which is a little more common, are people that describe something similar to what you're talking about, where they have to engage in sexual acts. But usually they're acts that they want to stop. They're things that have, again, sort of consequence. They can spend a lot of money. They screw up relationships.

1:25:50🔗 Caller Well, she has pain.

1:25:51🔗 Drew But yeah, I understand. It's bordering on it. But there are, and usually those people have been sexually abused in childhood.

1:25:57🔗 Adam All right. Well, let's start the line of questionings. How many guys you've been with?

1:26:02🔗 Caller I have to answer that.

1:26:04🔗 Adam Well, just around to the closest 50, let's say.

1:26:08🔗 Caller Oh, gosh. No, not even. Maybe like 20 since I was 16.

1:26:13🔗 Adam Maybe.

1:26:14🔗 Drew How old are you? 27.

1:26:16🔗 Adam All right. That's not too compulsive. What's the point there, Adam?

1:26:20🔗 Drew If it was 100 or 200.

1:26:22🔗 Adam I just want to know what her past is like. And never raped or abused or molested or any of that good stuff?

1:26:28🔗 Caller Yeah. My first sexual experience, I was 16, I was raped.

1:26:32🔗 Adam Who was the guy?

1:26:34🔗 Caller A neighbor of my parents.

1:26:36🔗 Drew And nothing ever happened before that? To sort of make you a victim? Or some victimizer sort of seek you out?

1:26:42🔗 Caller No, no, no. I had a big crush on him. And I had asked him if he would, if I could lose my virginity to him. And he said no. He was going to go away into the Army. And then one night he changed his mind unbeknownst to me and just kind of forced me into it.

1:27:02🔗 Adam All right. But it could have been worse. He had a big crush on the guy. You'd ask him to take your virginity and then he did. I mean, your timetable may not have been the same.

1:27:12🔗 Caller Absolutely. It could have been much more horrible.

1:27:14🔗 Drew But just know that there are a lot more subtle intermediate issues that can add to people's drive toward sexuality. And you have a very intense drive. And it's about the need to feel connected and fuse and intimate in certain ways. And it may not be the healthiest drive, but it's not really in the realm of compulsive.

1:27:30🔗 Adam John.

1:27:31🔗 Caller Hi.

1:27:31🔗 Adam You're 14.

1:27:31🔗 Caller What's up? I went out with this girl and it was the first time I ever French kissed a little girl. And after we did it, she went off and she told all her friends that I bit her lip and everything. And now I'm going out with a different girl. I haven't French kissed with her yet, and we're going to and everything, but I'm afraid that she's going to go on and tell everybody that I bit her lip or anything like that.

1:28:01🔗 Adam Did you bite this first girl's lip?

1:28:03🔗 Caller Well, this is what she said because my friend walked in on her talking to her friends. She said, Oh yeah, John doesn't know how to scam. Yeah, he bit my lip and I was like...

1:28:13🔗 Caller John, what, in ninth grade?

1:28:14🔗 Caller What?

1:28:14🔗 Caller You're in ninth grade?

1:28:15🔗 Caller Yeah. Should I tell this girl, my new girl?

1:28:18🔗 Caller You like her cut of the mustache?

1:28:20🔗 Adam What? But John, wait a minute. Did you bite her lip?

1:28:25🔗 Caller He doesn't know.

1:28:26🔗 Caller I didn't feel it. But I don't know. My best friend walked in on her talking about it, saying that he doesn't know how to scam.

1:28:33🔗 Caller Hey, let me give you some advice. My buddy Clito, who's really an expert in this category, gave me one when I was about that age. That's right. Here's what you do. Here's how you French kiss at the beginning. And probably this holds true as long as you go. But what you do is you keep your tongue back. Let her reach in. Don't go sticking it out. Let her go as far as she wants. And you just meet it wherever it happens to be. That way they don't think that you were sticking your tongue too far down her throat. And you just kind of do what they do.

1:29:09🔗 Adam I think the biggest problem a lot of guys have in any form of sex, whether it be French kissing or oral sex or intercourse, they overcompensate for their lack of experience and they work too hard.

1:29:22🔗 Caller Yeah, they try to be too active.

1:29:24🔗 Caller I don't think this is about the kiss anyway.

1:29:26🔗 Adam Just lay back, John. Don't worry. And she's not going to say you did anything you didn't do.

1:29:32🔗 Caller So I shouldn't tell her anything about, like, you know, that I've only done it once.

1:29:37🔗 Caller Just tell her you're lucky I didn't bite you on the ass and move on.

1:29:40🔗 Adam That's right.

1:29:40🔗 Caller Act like you've been there before.

1:29:42🔗 Caller Right. Listen, if she sticks it out three quarters of the way, you only stick it out one quarter of the way.

1:29:47🔗 Caller Sticks and stones may break my bones.

1:29:49🔗 Drew Isn't that interesting? He's only 14. In some ways, he's sound at 7. We've talked to 14-year-olds who sound like 38, you know, to have to finish a tour in Vietnam, right? That's one of the difficult things about that age. There's so many different sort of biological.

1:30:04🔗 Adam It's really weird because I remember 9th grade, 10th grade, there were guys walking around with beards who were in the 9th grade. And then there were like these little spindly guys whose sack had not dropped yet. They had the big Adam's apple protruding and their voice was cracking and they were hairless. Yeah.

1:30:23🔗 Drew If you go into the sexual arena at that age, you don't want anybody talking about you. I mean, that's the bottom line.

1:30:27🔗 Adam Yeah, right.

1:30:28🔗 Caller And in a negative way, because you're experimenting now and, you know.

1:30:31🔗 Caller Well, yeah, because it makes them look like they know what they're doing.

1:30:33🔗 Caller I feel bad for them.

1:30:34🔗 Adam Leave him alone, you kids.

1:30:35🔗 Caller Yeah. Well, meanwhile, though, this kid's 14. He's making out with a different girl every week. It's a hell of a lot better than I was doing at that age.

1:30:42🔗 Adam Better than you were doing at 18, 19, right? Michael or Michelle?

1:30:47🔗 Caller Yes.

1:30:48🔗 Adam You're 24. What's up?

1:30:49🔗 Caller Yes. This is basically a question for Dr. Drew. I was wondering, it seems I don't know if I'm allergic to rubbers.

1:30:56🔗 Caller I'm not really sure what it is.

1:30:58🔗 Caller When my partner and I, we were using rubbers all the time, but I've noticed that I get this itching, burning, and the inner course doesn't even feel good anymore.

1:31:09🔗 Drew Why don't you try other kinds of condoms?

1:31:13🔗 Caller We went through different kinds.

1:31:16🔗 Drew Were they all latex?

1:31:18🔗 Caller We tried the land skin. We tried every one that we've seen at the store, and it seems like that it bothers me, and it feels like I'm going to afterwards, it seems like maybe like a week effort, it feels like I'm going to get like a yeast infection or something, but it never comes to that.

1:31:32🔗 Adam Okay, but you're probably not allergic to the material that the condom is made out of.

1:31:37🔗 Caller I don't know what it is.

1:31:38🔗 Drew That's a common thing.

1:31:40🔗 Adam Yeah, but if you go through three different kinds, then it's not the material.

1:31:44🔗 Drew It sounds like a lubrication problem, much to say.

1:31:46🔗 Adam Yeah. You know, let me tell you the problem with the condom is it can be like a sneaker on a basketball floor. You know what I mean? You can get that cheap, cheap, cheap thing going on. Absolutely. By the way, the Lakers won this. Was there lubrication? Are you lubricated, Michelle?

1:32:03🔗 Caller Yeah. We will use lubrication and everything. It's just I don't know what it is.

1:32:08🔗 Drew How long do you guys, are you together?

1:32:10🔗 Caller We've been together like a hundred years now.

1:32:11🔗 Drew No, I mean like when you engage in sex, how long is this?

1:32:13🔗 Caller Maybe like five minutes.

1:32:16🔗 Adam Five minutes. That's the thing. It's a marathon. Yeah. What's this guy trying to prove? What's he going? Is he going off to the army? What's with this five minutes?

1:32:24🔗 Caller I only see him. I mean I only see him like usually like once a week.

1:32:27🔗 Adam All right. I guess so he's got to get his licks in. But still, five minutes. Yeah. That's not a real long time for a lot of lubrication and all that stuff. And this never happened to anyone before him?

1:32:39🔗 Caller No, this never happened before me.

1:32:41🔗 Adam And what if you don't use a condom?

1:32:43🔗 Caller It seems like if we don't use a condom, it's not, I mean it doesn't bother me really at all.

1:32:50🔗 Caller I think it's probably the condoms that are bothering you.

1:32:53🔗 Adam Yeah, but she's going with three different varieties. She's going with the latex, she's going with the...

1:32:57🔗 Caller Yeah, I mean we tried like different ones and it seems like...

1:33:00🔗 Drew You need maybe a different form of contraception.

1:33:03🔗 Caller I know, I mean I plan on going in, I mean I still want to use something else but I'm not really sure what else to...

1:33:09🔗 Drew Well, use the pill, how about that?

1:33:10🔗 Caller Yeah, we're doing that but I still kind of want to have protection though, I mean...

1:33:14🔗 Drew Wait, wait, the pill is virtually 100% effective. Yeah, but...

1:33:17🔗 Caller You want to have protection for what, AIDS?

1:33:19🔗 Caller Yeah, I mean I want protection from that, I want protection from you know, VD, it doesn't, I mean anything like that. I just don't know what this could be, I mean...

1:33:27🔗 Adam Don't you, do you trust this guy?

1:33:29🔗 Caller Yeah, I totally trust him.

1:33:30🔗 Caller All right, so you use the pill with him and then when you move on, you go back to the condom if it doesn't bother you with other people.

1:33:37🔗 Caller I mean, could I have like some kind of infection you think?

1:33:40🔗 Drew Yeah, it's possible.

1:33:41🔗 Caller It couldn't hurt to take a hose and hose that whole area out.

1:33:43🔗 Guest Well, it couldn't hurt to get it checked, but it doesn't sound specifically like that.

1:33:48🔗 Adam Yeah, it's important. But don't blow the leaves in the neighbor's pool. They get pissed off. Yeah, I don't even know what to make of that area. It's just...

1:33:59🔗 Caller What is going on in there?

1:34:01🔗 Adam It is not nearly sturdy enough for me.

1:34:04🔗 Drew We did some TV that Adam advocated putting it up on like a plywood platform.

1:34:09🔗 Adam No, I did not. I was talking about oral sacks. And here's what I said. You know, guys, a lot of guys claim they love to perform oral sacks on a woman.

1:34:17🔗 Caller O'Brien's always saying that.

1:34:19🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:34:19🔗 Caller Right?

1:34:19🔗 Caller I think you ought to get quantum physics involved in this.

1:34:22🔗 Adam They claim they love to do it.

1:34:24🔗 Caller Quantum condom.

1:34:25🔗 Adam I claim no guy really loves to do it, but he loves to make his partner feel happy. He loves to give his partner an orgasm. And people were arguing with me. And I said, listen, if you just removed a vagina, mounted it on a scrap of plywood, no guy would be sitting in front of TV licking it.

1:34:43🔗 Caller Please.

1:34:46🔗 Adam God knows I've tried. My dad had one for years in the basement. I never went near it. Is that a sweep show you're doing there?

1:34:55🔗 Caller It's a new game show.

1:34:55🔗 Caller The good news is there's a variety of condoms.

1:34:59🔗 Adam You put a hole in the plywood and you're in business, but not just the oral stuff. Right, Drew? All right, we'll take a little break. Jimmy Kimmel and Pat O'Brien are both here, and we'll be back after this.

1:35:13🔗 Caller The phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:35:15🔗 Drew We'll be right back. And that about does it. Tomorrow night, Spike Jonze, the director, did he also write? Anyway, great movie. Being John Malkovich had a great time seeing that film, and they were terrific here, and you're gonna hear from them tomorrow night. Iced Tea makes his triumphant return, and always great to hear from Rob Zombie, amongst others, tomorrow night on Loveline. And for tonight, happy holidays. On behalf of myself, Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla, Mahalo.

1:36:05🔗 Caller Ha ha, well now.

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