6:31🔗
What are you in there?
6:34🔗
Adam
Eep, it is the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-A-V-E-191, fax number 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction specialist, medicine, whatever. Had a couple of beers over, watched the Kings game tonight. Got to go in one of those luxury boxes. You smell anything? No, less than usual. I ate 40 pounds of hot dogs to cover it up. I even keistered a few just to play it safe.
7:07🔗
Adam
Yeah, yeah, it's nice. All right, so Kings were up 3-0 when I left and that was that. Our guest tonight is Oleander. We have Thomas Flowers and Doug Eldridge, both from the band coincidentally enough. They got themselves a CD out and it's about to go gold, I was told. What does that mean? You guys know what that means?
7:27🔗
Oleander
Going gold means you have the opportunity to go platinum. Going platinum means you get the opportunity by your grandfather in your house.
7:33🔗
That was curiously vague.
7:40🔗
Adam
February Sun is the name of the CD. Again, and this is two nights in a row, we have a band on here that we've been hearing a bumper from.
7:49🔗
Oh, really?
7:51🔗
Adam
Forever. As a matter of fact, I'm so Pavlovian in my training that when I heard the beginning of the song, I just thought it was time we're just coming back from a commercial.
8:03🔗
Adam
Oh, yes. Family Guy. Yeah, Drew and I did an episode of the Family Guy, which is a show I really enjoy. Actually, we did about 10 seconds of an episode of Family Guy.
8:14🔗
Adam
True. It's the world's worst actor, everybody. I don't know if people listening to the show realize just how little ability you actually have. Well, actually, they should have a pretty good idea if they listen to the show.
8:25🔗
Adam
With any regularity. Oleander is, you guys, are you touring with Creed and Our Lady Peace currently?
8:36🔗
Yeah, just wrapped it up.
8:43🔗
Yeah.
8:44🔗
Adam
And Godsmack was just in here last night. And your guy was just telling me that you guys were at Woodstock, too. We were just talking to Godsmack about that. How was that?
8:55🔗
Oleander
That was awesome. I mean, you know, we got to open up the West stage. James Brown on the East side opening up for us. I mean, it's pretty cool, you know, you got the Godfather Soul going on. Then we get to go on. It doesn't get bigger than Woodstock, you know. And, uh, or stinkier.
9:16🔗
Adam
How do you get in and out of that place? I mean, as an act. I mean, how do you get to the stage and then how do you get to your hotel?
9:24🔗
Oleander
Well, our hotel was a 45 square foot roaming bus that got in easily on Friday and stayed stationary until we left.
9:35🔗
Oleander
Not for an almost going gold band. No, no, that's the difference. Maybe we've just defined what an almost going gold band is.
9:42🔗
Adam
I think we ought to hear something from Oleander because and I think we ought to hear the song of the bumper that I was talking about. What the hell? What's the name of that song?
9:54🔗
Adam
Yes, that is. Oh, it's on the board there. Well, just, you know, I want everyone to know that I do this show without any preparation and without actually focusing or concentrating either. Drew, there's things on that screen that tell me what I should be doing. I don't even look at them, do I?
10:09🔗
Adam
It wouldn't register because of my reading disability. All right. This is then Oleander off of February Sun. And this is Why I'm Here.
14:13🔗
Adam
Peace, but, you know, hey, it's Oleander unplugged. It's basically what that sound like there. Thomas and Doug are both here from Oleander. And I think we'll take some calls. Drew. Yep. Yep. John.
14:29🔗
Yes.
14:31🔗
Caller
Yes, I am. Oh, first off, I just want to say, how the hell are you guys? You guys got a great show. I listen to you all the time.
14:38🔗
Caller
And first thing I want to say, well, I want to learn how to shoot. You know how like in the porno movies, how the guys are like able to like shoot the sperm like so far, like maybe five to 10 inches or something like that. I've never been able to do that. All it does is just gurgle out. And I'm wondering if if it's like something that you're just born with.
15:05🔗
Caller
No, but you know, it's just and I and I do the best I can. Like, you know, like I'll try to go for as long as I can. You know, I've been able to hold on to it for like an hour and a half.
15:26🔗
Adam
Like you've seen sometimes it'll freeze up like a stalactite, right? Before it gets there. No.
15:41🔗
Adam
OK. There's certain things in life. Vertical leap, for instance, 40 times. These are all things that are worth proving. No, no. Things that can't be improved on much. Oh, no, no.
15:54🔗
Adam
Here's the deal. You're dealt a certain hand by the Almighty. And like I said, there's some guys have a vertical leap of 35 inches. They're 5'9, and they can dunk a basketball. And then there's guys that are 6'4, and they can't touch the rim because they have a vertical leap of 13 inches. If the guy worked out real hard for five years, he could add an inch and a quarter to that, but still nothing.
16:17🔗
Adam
That's the same way with sperm production and distance. These guys are in movies because that's why they're there, because of the distance. As a matter of fact, they actually have a little calibrated chart, and that's how they figure out.
16:43🔗
Adam
That's why they call him the decorator. Drew doesn't watch enough porn to know what we're talking about.
16:50🔗
Adam
Any band worth their weight in salt that's spent enough time in a bus on the road knows Peter North's work. What else are you going to do? I wouldn't even get off to play. I'd just stay on the bus.
17:03🔗
Huh?
17:04🔗
Hi.
17:09🔗
Caller
Hey, Oleander. I've seen you guys three times last year up in Sacramento. You guys put on a really good show.
17:36🔗
Caller
Okay. I have basically two questions. My first one is a friend of mine. I've known her for about 10 years. The past three weeks, she's been talking a lot about, like, suicide and she doesn't really want to go on. She doesn't think anyone likes her anymore. I guess her parents are fighting now.
17:56🔗
Caller
Yeah. And I was wondering, do you guys have, like, any phone numbers that I could have to, like, give to her so she could talk to people?
18:26🔗
Caller
And the second question was, a friend of mine, he told me that when he's limp, his penis is straight, but when it's erect, it curves towards the tip.
18:37🔗
Adam
Makes a hook. Yeah, it's good. And, you know, like, if you get locked out of your car, you drop that right in the crank, you know, like a coat hanger.
18:45🔗
Yeah.
18:54🔗
Drew
Anyway, the curvature, right at the tip, is most often caused by the circumcision, actually. But curves in other areas along the shaft are just sort of one of those things.
19:05🔗
Adam
Yeah. That's all right. And the only time you have to go and see a doctor is if there's some pain, right?
19:12🔗
Adam
Right. My penis is perfectly straight, by the way. I just want to put that down for the record.
19:19🔗
Adam
That's right. Yeah. Well, I'd use it as a straight edge if I was like undercutting a door or something like that.
19:30🔗
Yeah.
19:40🔗
Caller
Well, okay. I've been getting like contact with my ex-boyfriend right now. And technically I'm still a virgin. I've never had an intercourse with a man before.
20:17🔗
Drew
So you're talking about cheating? I guess. I don't. Bisexuals reserve the right to consider sexual encounters with another sex. So not cheating. Just sort of practicing their bisexuality.
20:38🔗
Adam
You got two passports. Sarah, I'm tempted to gamble on Sarah. She's a virgin. It's strange. Let's hold on a second, Sarah. We haven't done any gambling in a while. Let's try this.
21:14🔗
Adam
You got a dollar? Okay. We haven't gambled in a long time on the show. I got eight bucks. No, just put two out there. Just one for me and one for you. It's more of a token thing.
21:26🔗
Adam
All right. Here's how the game works. It's been a while and I'm not getting anything real clear cut out of Sarah, but Sarah's 19. Sarah's technically a virgin. She wants to go back with her old boyfriend. She's bisexual. She's living with a girl and she's kind of seems kind of depressed to me. Now, here's where we gambled. What was her past like? Not her past, but how did she grow up? What were parents doing? Were they alcoholics? Is there any abuse? Maybe everything was perfect. That's not a bad bet sometimes. Parents still together, love her very much. No physical or sexual abuse. But you could also go the abuse route. So I'm going to get started just to set an example here. I'm going to go with... It's tough because sexual abuse and her being a virgin doesn't really work. But on the other hand, maybe she hates men, but she said, bisexual, this is tough. I'm going with some sexual abuse by a man. Male sexual abuse, and she doesn't like men because of that. It's turned her to women. Okay, go next.
22:37🔗
Drew
Something weird in the family, like either some violence in there or somebody died or something, some source of like a flare of chaos around the age of...
23:11🔗
Oleander
I'm going to say she went and saw a band play one night. One of the band guys got a little funky with one of her friends, a male guy in a band got funky with one of her friends.
23:29🔗
Oleander
I'm going to say she was attracted to women from the get-go. She heard the horror stories. She never went there herself. She was a little bit freaked about it.
23:47🔗
Oleander
I'm going to go with everything was cool. She just dug women in and she's coming out.
23:50🔗
Adam
I'll tell you why it's not a bad bet either. Because sometimes they'll lie and they'll just say everything was fine. See what I'm saying?
23:59🔗
Caller
Okay. So what happens here if I'm going along the lines of a pretty stable environment, home environment?
24:27🔗
Adam
I'll go out to the car during the break. I'll give you guys, I'll plug the record a few extra times. It's like 50 cents a plug. I think it is. Was it? Am I up 75 now? Sarah?
24:40🔗
Caller
Okay. Well, I never met my father. And I basically live with my grandparents all my life. Like seven.
25:11🔗
Adam
Thomas, you were out in like the first three syllables. So, uh, I'll give you your buck back though, finally.
25:19🔗
Adam
All right. That sounds fair. If it sets the song. Hey, all right. So Sarah, and you live, you're raised by your aunt?
25:33🔗
Yeah, basically seven.
25:40🔗
Well, I don't know.
26:02🔗
Caller
Well, I was on the streets. And, you know, I go with my grandparents and my aunt off and on.
26:34🔗
Adam
I don't buy that. Sarah, what's up? Seriously. Either you did or you didn't. It sounds like you did. Now, did you?
26:48🔗
Adam
Okay. How come you sound so tentative about it? I mean, do you just sound that way about everything?
26:54🔗
Adam
Okay. Even about answering that question. You know, we talk to people and I'll go like, when did you lose your virginity? And I'll go 16. I'll go anything before that? And they go, no, not really. And then you go, what, something before that? No. Not technically. Well, then why don't you just say no, you idiots. All right, Sarah. All right. So it's just pretty much mom is out of control, alcoholic or drug addict. You were raised by grandparents.
27:24🔗
Drew
I can't believe you were on the streets and nobody ever did anything weird or sexually inappropriate with you.
27:32🔗
Adam
Sarah, why don't you just come clean with us? Come on. There's a buck out here for Drew. He's already spent it. Come on, seriously.
27:40🔗
Oleander
No. Sarah, if nothing happened to you, you don't have to say anything other than that. Don't egg these guys on. They're just professionals.
27:53🔗
Adam
What were you doing out on the street? I have frustration. I have frustration, man. Sarah, seriously, would you come clean with us?
28:17🔗
Adam
So you're out on the street, nothing happened, right? Okay. All right. Well, Sarah, then everything's fine. You got yourself a girlfriend. Don't cheat on her.
28:28🔗
Drew
You got a lot of stuff to deal with that, Sarah, right? Your history, even more than what you're telling us.
28:36🔗
Adam
Can you just, I'll tell you what, you don't have to tell us, but would you tell us there's more here than what you're telling us?
28:45🔗
Adam
All right. Sarah, we're doing a radio show. Honey, you got to talk a little bit. I know you've been through a lot.
28:51🔗
Drew
You got to deal with all this. You got to deal with it. You need some help. Even if it's just going to Al-Anon or Alateen, starting there and making some connections with people.
29:01🔗
Drew
It starts with really addressing reality in reality terms. I'm sure it's just socked for you.
29:06🔗
Adam
Yeah. And listen, I'm just pissed off because I'm trying to do a radio show here, but I feel bad for Sarah. Don't get me wrong. It's just I can't, when you're doing a radio show, it's tough to revisit the same issue over and over and get that long pause and the deep sigh and everything. All right. Let's figure out the money here. I'm going to take the $4. Wait a minute. Are we short a buck?
29:38🔗
Adam
No, that's all right. We're just trying to make a point. So Thomas, you get nothing, right?
29:58🔗
Adam
Exactly. I'll give Doug a two. You don't get any money. You didn't put any in. I'll give that back to Tom.
30:06🔗
Adam
We're going to take a little break. And when we come back, we'll speak to, Whom there, Drew? Let's re- Jimmy is 16.
30:18🔗
Adam
Okay, we told him not to have sex. Last time we talked to him, he got drunk and dead. Now his girlfriend's pregnant. That's good.
30:31🔗
Love, 191.
30:45🔗
Welcome back.
30:47🔗
Love Line.
30:48🔗
What's up, man? It is Loveline.
31:07🔗
Adam
I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Oleander's our guest tonight. Thomas and Doug are both here from the band. February Sun is the name of the CD. Probably gold by now. It's going cold at the top of the show, and I'm sure it is gold by now. We will hear something else from Oleander in the next hour, but until then, we'll get back to the phones. Jimmy?
31:36🔗
Caller
I called in and go, well, my girlfriend was having sex with me, but I'm reluctant because she was raped when she was a little child, and I didn't think she really wanted to have sex. It was just her instinct.
32:18🔗
Adam
Yeah. Hey, Jimmy? Yeah? You know how I'll use the word, the letter F instead of using the entire word?
32:29🔗
Adam
Like I'll go, that's F'd up. Are you Mother Affer? It's important that you do the same, you jackass. Using the entire F word on the radio. Please, we're not your family. Uh, alright, so how old is she? Sixteen?
32:48🔗
Adam
Okay, and do you think you could talk her into adoption or abortion or something with the shin at the end of it? No abortion.
33:16🔗
Adam
Well, Jimmy, good. You'll have a kid before you're 17, and you can drop out of school, forget about college, and just get a job at the factory and put papers on them. Yeah. Listen, screwball, and all you screwballs out there who don't believe in abortion, you better believe in condoms if you don't believe in abortion.
33:55🔗
Adam
You think you can do that? You're pretty persuasive, especially when you use that f-word.
34:28🔗
Adam
Let me tell you something. When I'm in charge, you hear politicians talk about the weed and seed program. I am not going to seed. I'm just weeding. I'm going to drag an entire rake over this country and get rid of all the jimmies of the world, put them on a big island for retarded teenagers where all they can do is have anal sex with monkeys. And there will be no teenage women on that island. And I'm sending...
34:54🔗
Adam
It's probably going to take a couple of weekends before they figure that out. But eventually they will get down to the monkeys.
35:06🔗
Yeah.
35:10🔗
I can't orgasm while I'm having sex.
35:14🔗
No.
35:21🔗
When I was 15, the first time I had sex, it went on for like 40 minutes and then I just gave up, you know.
35:30🔗
Yeah.
35:32🔗
They're not more than like a month or so.
35:35🔗
No.
35:36🔗
Drew
Have you ever thought about maybe trying to get a relationship going so you have a chance to feel more comfortable and really sort of work this thing out?
35:47🔗
Drew
What do you call this sort of, you get one relationship where you work it out, the work it out relationship?
35:51🔗
Adam
Yeah, I can't remember what I call that. Well, let's just say I called it the work it out relationship. Every guy, and I think women, too, but I think more so for guys. You all had that one, especially if you're older, you had that one relationship you worked it all out in. You got all the positions in, you got your confidence, you sort of flexed your sexual muscles a little bit. I mean, a lot of guys had a lot of, they lost their virginity, that was a bust, that didn't work out well. Then there was that drunken thing with your friend's sister in the back, that was a disaster too. And then, you know, a series of sort of one-night-whatevers and fly-bys and everything. But then you get in that relationship and you get that chick and it's that first relationship where you're like walking around naked. You know what I'm talking about? Not just naked in bed, but you're actually doing stuff nude. You're heading down to the kitchen and stuff. You're getting it on in every room of the house. And you're getting all your positions down. You're getting your technique down. You're getting your confidence down. And all in this, like, six months or one year, or however long it goes, whether you're 16 or 21, whatever it is, you work it all out with this one chick. And from that point on, you're pretty good. You understand your weaknesses and your strengths. You get a little technique down. You've sampled all the positions. You kind of know what to expect. Steve needs one of those.
37:17🔗
Adam
And if you just hang out with chicks for three weeks at a time, you never get that worked out.
37:23🔗
Adam
You got to work it out. Vagina is like a baseball mitt, Steve. You can't use a new mitt every game. You'll have a horrible day out there. You get the oil in there. You have dad park the car on it overnight. You know, you put the ball in it and then you put the belt around it. Right. And you work it in and then you use it for the whole season. And you get more confident as the season wears on.
37:44🔗
I don't think it's really like a nervousness thing, you know, but it's like I can't really feel anything.
37:56🔗
Adam
Yeah, you work it out. But if you can't feel a mouth on your penis or a vagina on your penis, you might as well just kill yourself.
38:03🔗
Drew
Providing you don't have any medical problems, you're not on medications, is that right?
38:08🔗
All right.
38:12🔗
All right.
38:15🔗
All right.
38:16🔗
All right. Thanks a lot.
38:20🔗
Brett?
38:28🔗
Oleander
Maybe Steve couldn't feel it because he had a condom on. Do you ever think friction?
38:38🔗
That's rough.
38:49🔗
Adam
And the soothing nasally drone of my voice has lulled yet another listener to sleep. All right, let's just all enjoy Brett's deep nasal drones for a second.
39:32🔗
Adam
That was a short one. Wait a minute. That was good. That was what was left of the one before it. I'll tell you, I'd like to do like a pay-per-view special. We just had our listener snoring. It's great entertainment. Okay.
40:12🔗
Drew
Just based on the sound, the qualities that he produces vocally here, just put an image on his body habitus for us.
40:47🔗
Adam
Oleander's our guest tonight. We'll come back. We'll see if Brett's still asleep. But Lisa, please, don't do anything to disturb Vlad. All right. Get him some warm milk. All right. All right. We'll be back. Put him on hold. Come right. Oh, let me just. Okay. Let me just catch it. We're back here with Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Hey, a man shows on tonight if you're in the East Coast area, right? Does the show run on a delay?
41:59🔗
Adam
Yeah, but it's tomorrow if you're out here. I want to get that pre-plugin. Thomas Flowers and Doug Eldridge are both here from Oleander. February Sun is the name of the CD. It's probably now coming on Platinum. Oh man. It's going on gold at the top of the show. All right. Now, should we check back in with Brad to see if he's still sleeping? I think it's a necessity.
42:23🔗
Adam
All right. I'll tell you what. If we check back in with Brad and he's still sleeping, I just want to hear two snores and then two good ones. Two good ones. Then we'll because you're right, we don't want to we don't want to over indulge.
42:54🔗
Adam
Brett has now been on hold for 64 minutes, and I wonder when Brett tucked himself in. 10-minute mark, 15-minute mark.
43:05🔗
Adam
Usually, it's when I go into one of my high school football stories. That's usually the point where they jump off. But tonight, I hadn't told these stories yet. I'm surprised you nodded off so quickly. Joe?
43:17🔗
Yes.
43:20🔗
Caller
Oh, a lot, unfortunately. I work at a nightclub and I get hit on a lot. The girls flirt with me, but I've been abstaining from sex for a while and I get this really annoying boner and I can't seem to get rid of it at the nightclub and I'm getting teased about it. So.
43:43🔗
Caller
Well, I want you to meet a nice girl and the problem is, especially here in Southern California, there's just a lot of girls that are just screwed in the head, you know, problems with ex-boyfriends, parents' abuse, all sorts of stuff and it's just hard to find a nice girl that's not whacked.
44:08🔗
Caller
Got married to a woman with a divorce, two kids, had a child with her, left me for the minister of our church.
44:24🔗
Yeah.
44:25🔗
Caller
Wow. I'm trying to like try to wait and I don't want to end up with a son. I love to death and I don't want to end up with another son that doesn't have this. I'm not the full-time father.
44:53🔗
Caller
A girl starts talking about ex-boyfriends or everybody done me wrong song or what happened to them when they were kids are done, right then and there, done.
45:11🔗
Caller
Right now, my problem is though, is I mean, I even tried whacking off a couple of times for going into work and it just doesn't seem to work. A girl flirt with me and I just, boing.
45:29🔗
Adam
Yeah, well, that's the problem. You got to wear tight fitting zeppelin or Jordache style jeans. Zeppelin. Zeppelin.
45:39🔗
Adam
I don't care. They keep the penis in check. You could not, you couldn't shove a popsicle stick down your waistband when you're packed tightly.
45:52🔗
Adam
You got to wear, just get a pair of Levi 501s, really. It's hard for a boner to push through those things.
46:00🔗
Adam
And if you have, here's what will get rid of a boner. A lot of people don't know this. So I tell you, hitting it with a...
46:09🔗
Adam
With a cold, a frozen ruler. Yeah, that'll get rid of it. But I understand a lot of guys at work don't have a frozen metal ruler at their disposal. No, if you get an erection, here's the thing. All right, here's my erection theory, but you guys jump in if you disagree. The penis is hanging down, right? It's in its normal states, facing the floor, right? Then it starts to get a little... I'll use my fingers as a penis indicator here. And of course mine's smaller, but it starts pushing. It starts getting a little wrecked and it starts rising up a little, but it only goes up a little bit. Now it hits the pants. Right, right. Now it has a little resistance now. So it starts pushing a little harder, sort of like... You ever go to the zoo and you see like a rhino scratching itself up against a post or something, you know, it starts leaning up against it. Friction comes into play too. It starts pushing and then of course the harder it pushes, the more the pant holds it back. And before you know it, you have a raging boner, sort of based on the resistance of the pants. Now the way you get rid of that boner, reach down, and you got to do this in a discreet way, grab the junk, pull it up so it's against your belly. Now, the penis is completely disoriented. Doesn't know where it is. It's facing your chin now. Now, when it starts pushing, it can't really push in that position because it can't push in your abdomen, and it doesn't push backside. It doesn't go down. The blood will drain right out of it into the testicles, right, Drew?
47:34🔗
Adam
It is? Yes. Because if it's big, you're saying if you did that with yours, it just flopped right out of like the third button of your shirt would just pop off, and you'd be hanging out from your chest like if it was alien or something? Come on, Drew. It works. You might have to hike your pants up a little bit.
47:50🔗
Drew
On the contrary, at the just raising up stage, there's a sort of a kink and it's difficult to getting the blood in at that point. Yeah, but if the pressure is high enough, downstream, stuff doesn't get in there.
48:06🔗
Adam
Okay, and what I'll do when I wear the zeppelins is I'll put in two wallets, one on each ass cheek, to really add some tension to the front, in symmetrical tension. You know, you put one wallet in, it pulls a little harder on the left or the right side. You put two wallets in, it really adds a degree of pressure to the front. The chicks appreciate that. Jennifer?
48:32🔗
Caller
Well, I went out with these two guys and they ended up being stoners after they dumped me. And they were like totally clean when I was going out with them.
48:47🔗
Well, this is like happened a couple of weeks ago and they were 14.
49:13🔗
No. All right.
49:18🔗
Well, it happened like right after they don't meet.
49:20🔗
Right.
49:26🔗
Adam
Well, as Drew says, when guys get into weed, they do it about that age. So it was probably just coincidence.
49:54🔗
Yeah.
50:14🔗
He is qualified.
50:16🔗
Adam
All right, hold on. Andy, I'm going to put you on hold for about well, you've been on hold for 72 minutes. All right? I'm going to put you on hold for about another 15 minutes. Okay? I'm fine. Okay.
50:30🔗
Adam
So you mean it's like when your puppy takes a cramp and you start smacking on the newspaper, but the puppy doesn't know it's because of the cramp.
50:38🔗
Adam
So your puppy just thinks you're beating the cramp out of the newspaper for no good reason. So that's not good then, right?
50:45🔗
Adam
All right. Let me try. Let me just try one more time with Andy. Hey, Andy. Yeah. What's up, brother?
51:03🔗
Adam
Drew, now you screwed the whole gambling thing up. He's still asleep. We know he's still asleep, please.
51:12🔗
Adam
All right. Well, you may have a interesting sort of cerebral point there. We'll check into it. We're going to take a break. Well, I'll tell you what. It'll be a coin toss. Where do we talk to Andy and ask him what's up? Or we get back to Brett.
51:54🔗
This is Loveline on Radio Station.
52:03🔗
I am about to be utterly and madly carried away.
52:09🔗
Adam
It is Loveline. Oleander is our guest tonight. February Sun is the name of the CD. We have Thomas and Doug from the band here. And when we left off, we were listening to Brett snore. Let's see if he's still asleep.
52:33🔗
Brett?
52:35🔗
Oh, no.
52:43🔗
Brett?
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Yes, sir.
52:51🔗
Yep.
52:59🔗
Adam
You really were more valuable to us when you were asleep. We can get questions from anybody. I want you to go over to the sink and I want you to put some cold water on your face and come back and pick the phone up, all right? I'm here. Are you serious?
53:12🔗
Yep.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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173.
53:30🔗
Adam
All right. You really snore like a battalion of Marines. You really do some snoring. You're not married, are you? Nope. Yeah. Wife divorced you because of the snoring?
53:48🔗
Adam
Imagine sleeping next to Brett every night. Oh, my God. All right, Brett, what's your question? Where are you calling from, by the way, Brett?
55:18🔗
Adam
That's what I'm talking about. Go put the cold water on your face, and I'm going to get back to you in about three minutes. Just set the phone down, all right? All right.
55:28🔗
Adam
Yeah. All right. Let's let's talk to Andy. All right. Now, no one's say anything. Let's see if I can keep going. I got a nice role with Andy. Each time I say what's up, he says nothing much. And that's that. That's right. Here we go.
56:16🔗
Caller
I've got like two questions for you. Real quick. Go. Okay. On like Monday's show, you said something about watching the Butch and Sundance show.
56:40🔗
Drew
There's a famous movie from the 70s that you can't have lived in that decade and not have seen this film.
56:45🔗
Adam
Amanda Foreman was in here. She's on Felicity and her father produced that movie and other movies.
56:55🔗
Adam
It's a really good 70s movie. Redford Newman. Good sort of Western. You guys drove that movie? Yeah, excellent movie. So Andy, someone says you're related to Butch.
57:09🔗
Adam
Yeah. You know, my grandmother has rambled on for years about some ancestor of ours signing the Declaration of Independence. You know? But it's like, let's say he did. I still grew up in a dump in North Hollywood.
57:26🔗
Adam
And clean carpets for a living. So who gives a rat's ass whether he signed that thing or not?
57:41🔗
Adam
Well, you didn't see it when the lawn was up to here and the roof was falling off. The house has been redone several times since. You kidding me? Drew and I were working in North Hollywood today and I was on a cell phone with Drew and he was driving home and he told me what street he was going down. And I said drive by the house I grew up in and I talked him through it. This is this street. Turn left. You'll be passing that street. So he went and you didn't have sex with my mom, did you? You didn't stop.
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Drew
It looks like some homestead. Like the first thing was built 100 years old. Was it part of a farm or something one time?
58:31🔗
Drew
It looks like the top, like the top couple of floors. Somebody cut off the bottom floor and put it down on the ground.
58:40🔗
Drew
I could see it. The nice neighborhood. I could see how kids would hang out there because the school is right across the street.
59:00🔗
Caller
My ancestors and stuff because my grandpa said he was supposed to be my 14th or 16th cousin or something like that.
59:17🔗
Drew
Oh, Andy, getting to that is not a particular genetic issue. Interestingly, addicts get into that even before they get into their disease. It's part of the sort of thrill activation, thrill seeking that addicts can get into. So if there's alcoholism in your family, that sort of biology can fuel stealing.
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Drew
So it is dealing with an alcoholic dad plus probably having inherited that alcoholic tendency, Andy. That's the issue. It's not about inheriting behaviors that a stagecoach robber necessarily manifested 100 years ago.
1:00:09🔗
Caller
You know what I'm saying? I'm going to stop stealing and stuff. My brother, he's in jail right now.
1:00:30🔗
Caller
And at McDonald's. And my younger brother, he's still in school. He goes to the same school I do.
1:00:38🔗
Adam
You're going to be the richest, smartest one in your family. You just stay in school, you study, you go off to college, you make them all look like idiots. All right?
1:00:58🔗
Adam
Yeah. I guarantee there's a bigger connection between alcoholic dad than his ancestry with Butch Gassidy.
1:01:48🔗
Adam
All right. So did your friend, here's the big question. Did your friend break up with the girlfriend or did she dump him?
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Adam
I mean, really, here's your plan. Brett, I know you two are going to end up getting together because she likes you, right? Yeah. And there's not a whole long line of chicks that like you?
1:03:07🔗
Adam
All right. We got to talk about this. Hold on a second. Hey, Brad? Yep. Here's your plan with this chick. You will go out with her. That's fine. Now, here's how this works. Take it slow. See if you can wait a few weeks. Then start going out with her. Be very discreet. Do not get sloppy. Do not get cocky. Then eventually this guy will find out. But if you're very discreet about it, he'll find out in three months, in six months, in eight months.
1:03:36🔗
Adam
When he finds out, you guys started going out the day before he finds out, whenever it is. Whether it's three weeks from now or three years from now. You understand? That's the angle.
1:03:47🔗
Drew
All right. So do you think it is the activity of that job that creates the mindset or do certain kinds of people attract to certain kind of jobs?
1:04:11🔗
Adam
Yeah, sheet rock's a little easier to hit than siding. Siding's a little more specific.
1:04:15🔗
Drew
But do you think a certain kind of person's attraction to a certain kind of job? Or does the job create the person to a certain kind of mindset?
1:04:23🔗
Adam
Well, here's what happens. I work construction for so many years. I understand that mentality. And I understand the distinctions between the Finnish carpenters, the framers, the sheet rockers, the signers, the foundation guys, and the tin knockers.
1:04:38🔗
Drew
Yeah, yeah. There are certain cognitive levels that keep people stuck at certain positions or certain...
1:04:44🔗
Adam
Well, I knew this guy wasn't running a HMO, you know, out there in DeKalb or wherever. Where is he?
1:05:24🔗
Drew
I've taught you how to sniff out the abuse and all that stuff. Now I want to know how to sniff out careers.
1:05:28🔗
Adam
You haven't taught me anything. You told me how to sniff glue out of a paper bag in the parking lot.
1:05:36🔗
Adam
Here's what this is. This is a combination of elimination. He's not a doctor. He's not an attorney. He's not a CPA. There's no white collar, anything.
1:05:48🔗
Adam
He's not in college either. So there's a blue collar thing. Then he lives in Fargo. He's doing something with his hands. Well, it could have been. There's a combination between narrowing it down to about 25 jobs and then a little spike of clairvoyance.
1:06:18🔗
Adam
I have to check my citing contracting chart in Fargo, but I can give you a number at the next commercial.
1:06:34🔗
Caller
Well, every time I try to have sex with my boyfriend, it just doesn't really happen because it's basically painful.
1:06:54🔗
Caller
No, not really. I mean, I can only make sense of it thinking that it's some kind of psychological problem.
1:07:13🔗
Caller
I've been with 20 different people over, I mean, most of those were within about six months.
1:07:25🔗
Adam
Wow, that's a pretty good run. I wish I could put together that kind of a half year. Yeah. All right.
1:07:35🔗
Caller
I decided that that wasn't something that, that's not the way I wanted to live my life. And so, I just, I didn't have sex with anyone. Or, you know, anytime the opportunity came up, I just wouldn't do it.
1:07:48🔗
Adam
It's always great when you reach that guy at the end of the streaks, like I just got done banging half the neighborhood, except for now we're on date 15 and you ain't getting nothing.
1:07:59🔗
Adam
A good guy. Oh, they love that. Hey, I just want to test a theory here, Marnie. Are you exceptionally attractive?
1:08:21🔗
Adam
My point is, and this isn't totally putting a light on my point, but women can do this. They want to do 18 in 6 months? They do 18 in 6 months.
1:08:31🔗
Adam
Let's go do it. Hell, you could have done 38 in 6 months if you felt like it. I mean, if your knees were up to it. Right? Sure. Guys go out and try to do 18 in 6 months if they end up whacking off 18 times.
1:09:27🔗
Caller
Yeah. I mean, as I got older, it turned more into, like, an over-exercising type of thing.
1:09:37🔗
Adam
Here's the thing that I've learned from doing this show, just like Drew's learned who does siding. People that have the eating disorder turns into a sexual thing at some point.
1:09:49🔗
Adam
It's the same thing. And then the people that are sort of have the sexual disorder, they're either 18 or 6 months or they're nobody in 6 years.
1:09:59🔗
Adam
It heats up and then it cools and then it just shuts right down. So you're shutting down right now.
1:10:09🔗
Adam
But it's another part of this sort of eating disorder or the part that fueled the eating disorder in the first place. Right, right, right. So look into all that. But don't look into why am I, why this, what's wrong with this guy?
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Drew
He's having this phase of her, the expression of her condition. That's what's going on.
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Adam
It's just like, I know I said it before, but it's the biggest bitch in the world for a guy because it's like you're with somebody who was having sex with everybody and now and you're not, you're probably not nuts about that, but to compound things, you ain't getting any. You'd figure, well, okay, she banged half the neighborhood, at least I'm getting the best sex of my life, but you're now getting nothing. So it's like sort of the worst of both worlds for a guy. She's got to hope he's understanding and look into treatment. There you go. All right. Why don't, why don't we play an Oleander song before we go to break? Sounds good to us. Yeah, let's get it in there. Come on Anderson, don't be such a prude, okay? Come on Anderson. Yeah, this one's called I Walk Alone. It is Loveline. Is that Godsmack?
1:15:50🔗
Adam
Oh, you know, I told you you never recycle an Oleander bumper. Remember I threw a tantrum about that?
1:16:16🔗
Adam
That's a nice... As Drew yawns. Nice time. Drew, could you time the yawn a little bit next time? You guys are real simulating.
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Yup.
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Caller
Well, there's a few, like four months ago or so I had my own apartment with my friend and we took on an extra roommate and he brought over this chick and she was like, I don't know, I didn't realize until later that she was like loopy dude, she's psycho or something.
1:17:05🔗
Caller
Nothing, my dad's great and everything, but I don't know, I just have the urge to live on my own.
1:17:13🔗
Adam
But you pitch a tent in the living room for a night or two and then you go back into your room.
1:17:28🔗
Drew
Yeah, you've been smoking pot since you were 12 when you were setting up those campfires.
1:17:33🔗
Drew
Yeah, I know. Listen, it's not an accident. We know what that does to the human brain. It's not an accident. We can pick it up and we just hear, we just can talk to you and tell how long you've been smoking pot.
1:17:48🔗
Caller
I've come back like massive. I used to smoke like a 20 sack a day and now I just smoke like a 22nd month. Totally.
1:18:03🔗
Adam
Hey, Nick, you and your dad were real cool or was your dad kind of pissed that you were smoking so much weed?
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Caller
That's sort of what led to me getting my own apartment. He kind of found out and we got into a big argument about it.
1:18:16🔗
Adam
Hold on a second. You see how transparent everybody is? It's like, hey, you're 16. You're living out of the house. Yeah.
1:18:26🔗
Adam
I've always been into it. Well, what's going on at home? Dad's great. Everything's great. Just wanted to live out of my own.
1:18:36🔗
Oleander
But how do you guys pick out the drug out of that? I mean, how do you get the pot out of that?
1:18:47🔗
Adam
But also, also, so here's what happened. Nick's smoking a ton of weed. Dad tells him to stop 100 times. He freaks out on him. They get in a blowout and he moves out.
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Caller
That's how good I am. Oh yeah, he used to be an alcoholic. There you go. He still is, technically.
1:19:18🔗
Adam
All right, so Nick, you're well on your way. But why don't you be honest with us? You didn't move out because it was time to leave the nest. You had a blowout with your dad about your pod smoking.
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Drew
No, it's not. He's trying to back out. The problem is with this level of when they do electron micrographs of brain that have been exposed to pod at this age for this long, you find this big, big layer around most brain cells in the cortex.
1:19:59🔗
Drew
It's very dramatic, this dark layer. Nobody knows what that is. The cells don't work right.
1:20:06🔗
Adam
Hey, don't bum Nick's high. He's trying to get a job. He doesn't need that thing. He doesn't need to be thinking about the layer of resin on his brain next time he's at a job interview.
1:20:27🔗
Adam
Stop watching Discovery Channel when you're stoned and freaks you out. Hey, Nick. Yes, Nick. Here's what you need to do. You need to quit smoking weed like tonight. You need to start taking vitamins, doing push-ups and find Jesus Christ and keep your fingers crossed. By then, by the time you're 18, you'll be semi-normal. But brother, you smoke too much weed for too long, you got to stop. Your dad's an alcoholic, you're doing your thing, and this is going to be trouble.
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Caller
Loopy chick. She was over at my apartment and she like, I don't know, she was totally psycho and she had a bad home life or something, but she had tried committing suicide and we were talking about it. And she asked me if I ever tried to commit suicide and I said no. And then she was like, all right, I'll be right back. And she went in the kitchen and she like cut her arm open. And I was like, dude, what's going on in there? So I went up and got in or I got up and went in there and she like, her arm was bleeding mass. She had like nine cuts in her arm. And so I took her in the bathroom and I like wrapped it up and freaking poured peroxide all over it and stuff like that. But I got like a whole bunch of blood on my hands. And I was wondering how long the virus stays alive and stuff after it like is not inside the body anymore.
1:21:50🔗
Caller
See, that's what I'm not sure of. But she did say that she had slept with a lot of guys.
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Drew
Sleeping with a lot of guys is not typically a specific risk factor. I mean, she's not an IV drug user. Then it's somewhat of a-
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Drew
Yeah. Tremendous blood exposure. Yeah. I mean, that is a potential if you had an open wound or something yourself. But a very unusual way to get this disease.
1:22:29🔗
Adam
So what they do is if you're like a paramedic and some junkie stabs you with a rig, they'll put you on the triple cocktail right away. I mean before you test positive, in other words. They'll just assume that you have it or that you're going to have it and they'll put you on this viral suppressing drugs, right?
1:22:58🔗
Drew
No. They did some studies where one group was treated and one wasn't and the conversion rate was higher in the group that wasn't.
1:23:06🔗
Adam
Imagine what a bummer it is. Paramedics who have the syringe stuck in their shin and or with the test group A, you go over here. You take a sugar pill and then.
1:23:18🔗
Adam
Meanwhile, you fall apart. Yeah. Your arm falls off in two years. All right. Oh boy. Here's the point with our last caller there, Nick. Much bigger fish to fry than the than this potential HIV thing. This is, this is, you have a.
1:23:34🔗
Adam
Zero point whatever percent chance of being HIV positive. You have about a 78 percent, maybe, maybe 90 percent chance of just being a complete brain dead alcoholic.
1:23:46🔗
Drew
But it's interesting that oftentimes chronic pot smokers become very obsessive compulsive.
1:23:51🔗
Drew
And so they start preoccupying about stuff, obsessing about stuff. And this may be his most recent obsession.
1:24:01🔗
Caller
Well, I've been seeing this girl for about six months now. And, you know, things have been going real good. I mean, you know, when we're together alone, everything's great. She's got a six-year-old boy from a previous boyfriend. And I can tell that this boy has a lot of his father in him. He's just really out of control. And, you know, I don't... My life is such an uproar right now that I don't know if I should take on the commitment.
1:24:46🔗
Drew
Dad, I'll tell you something about your feelings about this woman, though, right there.
1:24:49🔗
Adam
Well, it was pretty early. It was, you know, three, four months into the relationship.
1:25:03🔗
Caller
Well, actually, I know her from high school. I know him from high school. And we ran into each other about six years later, which was about six months ago.
1:25:33🔗
Caller
But anyway, so, you know, my life is such an uproar right now that, you know, I'm having trouble with jobs and depression and the whole bit.
1:25:47🔗
Caller
Well, I mean, you know, he's a good kid. I know he's got the intelligence, but he's just really out of control.
1:25:51🔗
Adam
I mean, you know, he says no to his mother, you know, no, and she can't discipline him.
1:26:01🔗
Drew
Well, he might need a sort of a neurological medical evaluation to make sure he doesn't have some ADD or minimal brain syndrome. Was she doing drugs or anything while she was pregnant?
1:26:11🔗
Caller
No, no, she's a goody two shoes. And you know what? I asked her about that, if he had the ADD or whatever, and he was tested for that, he's got a problem with his eye. I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but I know there's some kind of, there was something, the kids are just too high strung and they can't control it. You know what I mean?
1:26:41🔗
Drew
Maybe they also call them wham bam kids. They're the certain kind of kids that needs a lot of real physical experiences in the way of sort of organizing them, their emotional thought processes.
1:26:50🔗
Adam
Drew's got one of those. Hey Richie? Yeah? Is this guy, has this little kid been around his dad much? Is his dad part of his life?
1:26:58🔗
Caller
Well, you know, that's the shame about it, his father is, excuse my expression, but a prick. You know, he doesn't want anything to do with him.
1:27:09🔗
Adam
All right. Hey Richie? Listen, here's the deal, follow your instincts. I mean, you've only been with her for six months, you got another good six months before you got to make a move.
1:27:21🔗
Adam
You got to get your ass together. Why don't you give yourself six months, work on your career, work on your depression, work on whatever you got to work on, and just don't put any pressure on yourself. You'll continue dating, whatever it is. Give yourself until the summer. See if you can... She's ready to move on. I know she's ready to move on, and so am I. I put them on hold. I said give it six months. That's it. Just tell her. I want to get my head straight. I don't blame him. This is a tall order. I mean, my hat's off to these guys who can come into a situation with someone else's kid. The kid's out of control and he's acting out. And listen, this is one of the problems we're having in this country is dad is the disciplinarian. And when dad is never around, as is the case for, it seems like more and more of our kids in this country, the kids are out of control. They need the discipline of daddy. They absolutely do. I mean, it's a chemical thing. I swear to God, I watched this, I saw this thing on like 2020, the mom's driving the van and she's yelling at the kids to shut up while she's driving the van. And the kids are out of control. And then the dad drives the van and dad's like, shut up. The kids are, yeah. I mean, they put their cigarettes out and everything. Like they don't make a sound. They need, it's like a chemical biological thing. And if you get rid of papa, then everyone's running around like a madman.
1:28:52🔗
Oleander
I got to give this guy props, man. This is taking on the responsibility. It's a huge. It's a large commitment.
1:28:57🔗
Adam
Let's give it six months. Don't put the pressure on yourself. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll speak to Anthony. Went down on girlfriend, found what appears to be a penis.
1:29:12🔗
Adam
Oh man. I'm guessing it could have been broken off like their last boyfriends. It's got lodge in there. Well, you know, like when a shark bites down on someone, it will leave a tooth.
1:29:31🔗
Caller
Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline in just a minute or two. Call 1-800-LOVE-191.
1:29:55🔗
Adam
NRK. It is Loveline. Thomas and Doug are both here from Oleander. February Sun is the name of the CD. I recommend it highly. And we will speak to, oh yeah, we were going to speak to Anthony anyway. Anthony? Hello. You're 19?
1:30:25🔗
Caller
Actually, I was playing with her, and I was in there, about a couple of inches deep.
1:31:04🔗
Drew
The cervix looks... down the shaft of the vagina, the cervix can be anywhere from a couple inches to several inches down. And it looks like the tip of a penis, basically.
1:31:16🔗
Drew
Some women have real long cervixes, so it can really feel like there's actually a shaft in there.
1:32:12🔗
Call the right people, though.
1:32:16🔗
Adam
All right. All right. You listen. You've got to open a window when you deal with that toner. You understand? It's messing with your mind. All right.
1:32:27🔗
Adam
Print shop. You know what I like about print? There's a couple of businesses that are open 24 hours a day that I sort of understand, like donut shop. People, they jones for some donuts. You know, you pick them up at five in the morning.
1:32:42🔗
Adam
Yeah, donuts always sound good. As long as there's pot, there's going to be donut shops open 24 hours a day. But the other thing that always freaks me out is the print shops open 24 hours a day. And people always tell me why, but I still don't... There's no... For me, a print shop being open at like 315 in the morning, 445 in the morning. Don't get it. It doesn't make any more sense to me than a hardware store being open at four in the morning or a bank being open at four in the morning. I don't understand the print shop 24 hours.
1:33:10🔗
Drew
Is the principle that you come in at the end of the workday and you gotta have these documents printed up by morning?
1:33:16🔗
Adam
Yeah, I understand that. You drop it off by 637 in the evening and you can pick it up first thing when we open at 8 a.m. But I don't understand you wandering into the Kinkos at 430 on Tuesday.
1:33:27🔗
Drew
You've never done the college thing. Hell no I haven't. That's sort of a routine thing when you're grinding out a paper or a term paper and you need to get it copied.
1:33:41🔗
Adam
I know, but listen, I didn't do the college thing, but I did the carpentry thing. And there were times when I was at the shop, I was like late delivering some cabinet job and I was working in the shop all night. It was 2 in the morning and I needed another sheet of plywood. I had to wait until 7 when the place opened up. You know, it was just, you know, you had to wait. I screwed it up, I didn't get the timing right, you know.
1:34:11🔗
Adam
All right, it was. I'm just saying, as soon as one print shop is open 24 hours, now everyone is. So that's why I never opened a print shop. Can you imagine how tiring that'd be? That'd be a bummer. You'd never sleep, you'd just stand behind a counter. Michelle?
1:34:31🔗
Caller
I was just wondering why did you guys name yourselves Oleander? And why did you guys name your album February Sun?
1:34:41🔗
Oleander
First question first. Oleander was a flower that in and amongst the madness of trying to name our band and four different ideas, when we took a smoke break, one of us took a smoke break, all of us kind of looked at this bush and said, wow, amazing. And the chaos stopped. Rick the botanist, a guitarist who smokes, who was taking the smoke break, said, that's an Oleander bush. We all thought, wow, beautiful. And two days later, we thought nobody else on the planet would name their band Oleander.
1:35:12🔗
Oleander
Thank you. I mean, it's ambiguous. It could be a disco band or a death metal band.
1:35:47🔗
Oleander
Let's get on to the album. The album title itself, you know, that's the only other thing the bands argue about generally is, you know, what to call the band and then what to call the albums, right? Okay, well, we argued about that a little bit. As we were recording the album, we, I was reminded of a song that I had written earlier about my little brother who had died. He was born in February. Doug's son was born in February.
1:36:11🔗
Oleander
And the album was coming out in February. So we decided to pay tribute to the three and entitle it February Son.
1:36:19🔗
Drew
You know what I like about these guys? There is a distinct reason behind what they do. Most bands, you go, what's the reason? They go, whatever it means to you. We hate that.
1:36:29🔗
Oleander
That was us back in the 80s. This is us in the 90s. Unfortunately, we've been given the opportunity to do this.
1:36:36🔗
Oleander
Well, he like I was born allergic to everything. I just lucked out and was born to be allergic to one less thing. And he died of spinal meningitis. He had major complications of every kind you can imagine.
1:36:54🔗
Oleander
Oh, you know, everything. And you know, like a year later, they realized how they could have saved his life. You know, and I was, you know, I was on deathbed taking three allergy shots per day for 12 years and whatnot. You know, so.
1:37:10🔗
Oleander
Well, he was three and I was six and he was pretty much all I had. You know, the complete fractured, splintered, dysfunctional family. Yeah. Loveline show. Living Loveline show. And so we had Clinton.
1:37:39🔗
Caller
Yeah. Well, first of all, I saw you guys last Wednesday at the Palladium as I thought you were awesome.
1:37:45🔗
Caller
You're welcome. I was wondering how did you get your start and how long did it take you to get up to the top? And do you like did it fall into your lap or did you have to like...
1:37:54🔗
Oleander
Oh, no, no. First, let me start by saying if you're thinking of starting a band, stay in school. If you're in a band, stay in school. If you're even remotely interested in the music business, stay in school first, don't sacrifice relationships, and then like gradually take the advice of everyone else who might be lucky enough to have made it. We worked very hard, hit brick walls, and sacrificed much for a pipe dream that just so happened to come true so far.
1:38:26🔗
Oleander
Doug and I have been playing together for ten years. Doug I and Rick have been playing together for seven. Doug I, Rick and Fred, the complete band, about four. And we're not for the grace of God and for, you know, some very, very fortunate things to have happened. We would not be here today.
1:38:43🔗
Adam
All right, good question there, Cassie. We got to take ourselves a quick time out. We'll be back with, well, by the grace of God, with more Oleander after this.
1:39:44🔗
Adam
February sun, everybody. Please go out and get that CD. Good band, good guys, and it was real nice meeting you.
1:39:51🔗
Adam
We appreciate it, and hopefully we'll see you in here soon. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, mahalo.
1:40:00🔗
Caller
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