0:17🔗AdamHey, yes, it is Loveline. I'm always surprised when the show starts. Even though it starts at 10 every night, I've been here for three years. Phone number for Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-191. Facts number 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew is over there. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Although he's not technically over there tonight because he's a little further over on the phone. Speaking to the hospital, no doubt. Anyway, they might be Giants are our guests tonight. I know they're both Johns. I don't know which John's which.
0:49🔗They Might Be GiantsThis is John Lennel over here.
0:57🔗AdamLet's... Let me tell you, I'm gonna come clean and tell you tell you all I know about They Might Be Giants. I think of you guys as a smart band because you... It's like Schoolhouse Rock, half of your songs, singing about Adams and putting things together and how the sun works and that kind of thing. Right, right, right. Always thought you were a cool band. I've never seen you live.
1:22🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, we're playing on Friday. Come on down.
1:24🔗AdamI'm gonna be in Chicago. Are you playing in Chicago?
1:27🔗They Might Be GiantsWe're playing in Chicago soon, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're playing everywhere. We're on the road for a month and a half. We're gonna be playing every major city in the United States.
1:34🔗AdamWell, you're doing San Fran tomorrow night. And House of Blues out here in LA on Friday and then the Coach House on Saturday, which is, I guess, in San Juan Capistrano.
1:46🔗They Might Be GiantsAll over the place. Plus, we have a live album if people really can't get out to see us.
1:50🔗They Might Be GiantsFor the shut-ins out there.
1:52🔗AdamThat, Severe Tire Damage is the name of it. And what number album is this for you guys?
1:57🔗They Might Be GiantsThis is, that's our 100th album. We are celebrating our 100th release. We're like the Steve.
2:02🔗AdamWhich different album is this? I know you've got 100 copies of this one.
2:06🔗They Might Be GiantsNo, no, no. It's like, it's our like 7th album or something like that. That's 7th or 8th album.
2:11🔗AdamAnd you counted this one even though it's a compilation cause there's some new, there's some new work on here too. And how many new songs? So Dr. Worm and?
2:19🔗They Might Be GiantsDr. Worm is the single and video off the record and there's about four other brand new songs. And then there's, you know, sort of a survey of our whole recording career. A bunch of songs from our very earliest to our most recent records.
2:33🔗AdamAnd I was talking to your record rep and it was interesting. She or he, can remember which one I was talking to. Okay. It put it a very interesting way, which is a lot of these songs you've been playing for years, you've been working it out on the road and I guess they evolve.
2:50🔗AdamAnd so you're not exactly finishing with the same product you started with. That's right.
2:55🔗They Might Be GiantsSome of them sound very different from the recorded version. Some of the recorded versions were done with drum machines and synths. And this is a live band, so it's a really different sound.
3:05🔗AdamNow, I don't know what the name of the song is. And I don't even know if it was by one of you guys or They Might Be Giants. But what song is Don't, Don't, Don't Let It Die?
3:14🔗They Might Be GiantsThat's us. Same as the Giants. It was both of you. That was our very first song.
3:38🔗They Might Be GiantsCan't we just put you directly through to the record company so you can just spank us simultaneously?
3:44🔗AdamDo you record a couple of shows and then?
3:46🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah. We were actually recorded. Well, we did this one thing for the Spin Radio Network a couple of years ago that just kind of captured. The band had been playing. We'd been on the road for a couple of months and everything was really together. We just happened to luck out and get a really great recording of the band. That was really the beginning of the idea that we could actually do a live record. Because we had done some live recordings and they were all sort of huffing and puffing, and they were good shows, but they just weren't great recordings and this thing turned out really well. We just started working on compiling other songs and we recorded a couple of versions of John Lett's Star, but they just weren't as excellent as they should have been.
4:28🔗They Might Be GiantsThey weren't up to our high standards.
4:29🔗AdamYeah, but it's such a good song. I really love that song.
4:34🔗They Might Be GiantsSevere Tire Orange No. 2 will be out in 2003 probably.
4:38🔗AdamNow, John, I'm reading through the They Might Be Giants fact sheet. There's some interesting things on here such as multiple appearances on Conan and Letterman and Tonight Show. I've caught you guys on that a few times.
4:53🔗They Might Be GiantsI like the way you said John. Was that like both of us?
4:56🔗AdamNo, I was getting to John Flansburg who you directed to Ben Fold's Five Video, Soul Coughing, Edwin Collins.
5:05🔗AdamThat's cool. You've done one of your own videos or do you do them all?
5:11🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, we started out doing videos with a guy named Adam Bernstein, who's like since become a movie director, but we would collaborate with him, but he was the real live director and that was kind of an apprenticeship for me.
5:24🔗They Might Be GiantsBut I would build the props and he would point me in the direction to put them.
5:29🔗AdamAnd what is your, I'll ask this to both of you and you can both jump in, you seem like intelligent guys. Did you meet in college?
5:38🔗They Might Be GiantsWe're regular guys. I'm an art school graduate, you know, it's not that hard to get through art school.
5:45🔗AdamIt's hard for me to get through anything that has school at the end of it. Well, yeah, but you know, bartending school, traffic school, anything that has school at the end of it.
5:53🔗They Might Be GiantsBartending school, that's something that we understand.
5:56🔗They Might Be GiantsI think that we're not particularly smarter than other bands. I think this is the thing about a lot of bands, which is that it's considered uncool to be smart, be normal, you know, like you dumb yourself down for the rock.
6:19🔗AdamThere's some that play stupid and then some that live it.
6:21🔗They Might Be GiantsThat would explain the rule here.
6:23🔗AdamRight, that's why we have the trough system underneath the microphones. All right, there's also a lot of heavy drinking going on in this show mostly because most the bands start drinking about 9.30 or 10 o'clock religiously no matter where they are and especially if they're from just flowing from England or New York or something. Right. In this case, it's God knows what time to them. So there's a few guys, you know, feel free to get loaded. That's what I'm saying. Okay, thank you. Drew, did you bring the booze? No. No. All right, you ready to get going? Yeah. Is there anything we're missing? You're not doing Oprah?
7:24🔗They Might Be GiantsWe worked with people from the western suburbs of Boston. We worked with somebody from Brooklyn. Lincoln, Mass.
7:31🔗CallerOkay, I knew you were from up here. Yeah. Drew and Adam love your show, love everything that you do, agree with about 100 percent of everything you say.
7:43🔗CallerAlmost 100. The only thing I just wanted to offer a different perspective. I got married when I was 19, had my first child when I was 20. Unplanned, my husband and I met in college, fell in love, had our first child and of course...
8:01🔗DrewYou've already said something that takes you away from 90 percent of our listeners.
8:07🔗CallerAnd I know most of your listeners, I think, are coming from a different world. But I just wanted to offer a little ray of hope for anyone who may be young facing that decision. If you really are involved, if you really are committed, it can work out.
8:25🔗DrewLet's examine that a second, Kathy. I mean, what other sorts of things can people look at in helping determine whether or not this is a good time and a good decision? In other words, to me, what comes to mind is, something we've already mentioned, that you're both well on your way to pursuing some sort of productive life, right? You're both in college. When it says that, too, I would think looking at both your family systems, where you came from, were they stable, were they solid? Is it a good, is it a good template for something? I mean, are you guys just acting something out and escaping to get married? Are you getting married because you're healthy and you've met somebody and you're making a decent choice?
9:00🔗CallerRight. Well, I think you do definitely need a support network. If you have, if you have no one to support you, that is going to be very difficult. And luckily, my parents were very supportive, insisted that we both finish school. And that's what made all the difference in the world.
9:16🔗AdamTo be fair to Cathy, to be fair to most of our listeners, I think they look at the federal government as sort of a large family, large support network there. And in a way it is. I put a few dollars aside each paycheck that goes toward God knows who, God knows where, having God knows what. But that is how most of our listeners look at, look at their extended family, look at the government as their extended family.
9:50🔗CallerShe's looking at Princeton and Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, very bright girl. So it can work. And I just wanted to offer a little different perspective. And I think this is great that they might be Giants around. We've been such fans for years. It's just great to talk to you guys.
10:22🔗AdamDrew loves the colleges. For me, it'd be like going to like, I don't know, a tortilla factory or something, what it's like for Drew going to a university.
10:32🔗DrewI think it's almost the strip, to take us to tour strip places for you.
10:35🔗AdamYeah, it'd be like if there are these huge strip clubs that took up acres and acres and had like a football team and a library and we could just walk through the hallowed halls of these places and look at strippers present and future. Flint Publishing, thanks, Ann. Yeah, that would be a good analogy. Dan.
10:58🔗CallerYeah, I'd like to thank you for the compliment you made at the end of our conversation on last night's show.
11:38🔗CallerAnd he says, well, I've got an opening Monday morning. You can come in at 9.15 and I have various medications and I have one that will work perfect for you.
11:56🔗CallerSo I'd like to thank you guys on that. Great.
11:59🔗DrewThis is Dan who was having retrograde ejaculation.
12:02🔗AdamYeah, Dan called in at the beginning of the show last night. That's why I was a little bit confused when he said the end of the show. It's kind of funny when the urologist says he has an opening. I don't know why, but you picture the actual end of the penis in the urethra.
12:25🔗AdamNot that I need any persuading. I'm doing it anyway.
12:29🔗CallerYes. I love the way you make masturbation seem that it's not shameful when you're in a group of guys and you got one macho jerk trying to say, hey, well, I never masturbated. Hey, that's like saying I got an itch and never scratched it.
12:49🔗CallerThat's a solid analogy. I'd rather take and put on a rubber glove and have safe sex at home than go out to a bar and pick up some woman that's so loaded she's comatose, take her out in the car, hammer away with her, come home, find my penis on fire the next morning and wind up with HIV. That's shameful, not masturbation.
13:55🔗AdamAll four? Yeah. If your dog got it? Yeah. Okay. Let's move on.
13:59🔗DrewAnd retrograde ejaculation is what he actually called about last night. We got in all kinds of stuff for them, though.
14:03🔗AdamMike, he's essentially confined to a wheelchair and he's worried about his ejaculation and he's having an orgasm, but nothing's coming out. And that's what the retrograde ejaculation is. You sort of go into yourself. If you had a eggs, you'd get pregnant, right, Drew? All right then.
14:39🔗AdamWhat's going on? You're 14, you're on with They Might Be Giants.
14:41🔗CallerOh my God, I can't believe it. I've been trying to do this for the longest time. First of all, trying to get into Loveline just to say hi. And man, I can't believe this. Anyways, first of all, I want to say Adam, Dr. Drew, you guys are the men. The men?
15:19🔗CallerYeah. And I got a question for you guys. I'm just baffled by like your lyrics and everything. I'm amazed at how you guys just come up with crazy stuff. And I'm wondering, is there do you have any trick to that?
15:32🔗They Might Be GiantsI mean, yeah, well, we we actually have the trick right here in front of us. We drink lots of coffee. That is that that is the seriously that is the that's the method.
15:43🔗AdamDo you find you get punchy at late at night when you're drinking a lot of coffee?
15:48🔗They Might Be GiantsI think tonight might be one of those nights.
15:50🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah. We got really good arguments going to. That's right.
15:53🔗They Might Be GiantsWith ourselves. Start interrupting ourselves to contradict ourselves.
15:59🔗CallerI'm also wondering, do you guys, I mean, I know that Lincoln was opening for you guys earlier this year. Who's opening for you guys this now?
16:06🔗They Might Be GiantsThis guy named Michael Shelley. He actually was a DJ on WFMU in New York City, which is one of the few sort of freeform radio stations around. He actually is a songwriter as well and we heard his record and it was kind of a great pop record sort of in a Brian Wilson kind of Nick Lowe vein. And he'll be opening for the entire two months. So we're out in the United States.
16:29🔗AdamWhere are you playing tomorrow night in San Francisco?
17:30🔗AdamThat's a great idea, Drew. Oh, They Might Be Giants. Hey, that sounds great. That really does sound good. I swear to God those horns sound great in that song.
20:40🔗They Might Be GiantsWe got some practice in on that one.
20:42🔗AdamCouldn't have done, don't, don't, don't let us.
20:45🔗They Might Be GiantsWe're saving it for volume two.
20:47🔗AdamCould you imagine that, the horns going, Drew?
20:52🔗DrewYou really need to start a band, Adam. You do.
20:54🔗AdamI'm going to start that and we're going to cover They Might Be Giants songs, the only the ones that didn't make it onto the best stuff.
20:59🔗They Might Be GiantsYou know, I can say this on this show, there was a band, They Might Be Giants, early on in our career, like very early, right after we started, there was a band in New Jersey called They Might Be Vaginas that started.
21:14🔗AdamThey toured with the Dickies for a while, didn't they?
21:16🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, you know, it shocked us, but they were, they were a, They Might Be Giants tribute band. It was quite shocking. Yeah, because we, you know, we liked it, you know, we're, it's a family show, you know.
21:26🔗They Might Be GiantsAnd they felt they were on our side.
21:28🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah, they were helping.
21:31🔗AdamAnd you sent, you sent your team of lawyers over there.
21:33🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah, a seasoned dissest order, right?
21:35🔗AdamThe lawyers showed up first, and then the longshoremen came by next with broken off hool queues.
21:41🔗DrewYou know, as soon as anybody starts doing anything offensive, they start thinking of that dog and the Gainsburger and the pill scenario. Well, we're just, we're just, Drew? Giving people what they want.
21:49🔗AdamI'm going to let you rethink that whole statement over there. And then when we come back, you can put it in some context. Because I don't know what you're talking about. All right, but save the just for me stuff off the air. Well, we're by the Coke.
22:02🔗AdamNo, we're not. We're going to commercial. They might be Giants. They'll be back. I'll be back. We'll see if Drew has a little attitude change. He might be back as well.
22:12🔗CallerLoveline's phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. With Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew, we'll be right back.
23:15🔗They Might Be GiantsI think there's actually a cultural boycott on it.
23:19🔗AdamI swear to God, I love walking around my underpants, listening to like Boston and UFO in my house, just playing air mop. I've switched from the... I don't actually call it air guitar anymore.
23:31🔗AdamIt's called spade to spade. It's a mop. They Might Be Giants are here in studio today. They are, I should say, tonight. They have a few dates coming up. San Francisco tomorrow. House of Blues out here in LA on Friday. And then Coach House.
23:45🔗They Might Be GiantsWe really want to hammer on that Coach House show there in San Juan Capistrano.
24:06🔗AdamAnd a lot of big acts play there and have always played there over the years and they seem to do all right. So I imagine people just get in their cars.
24:13🔗They Might Be GiantsIt's a fun show. It's a really fun show. It's a fun place to do a show. You know, it's very...
24:16🔗They Might Be GiantsIt's like dinner theater.
24:17🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah. I mean, it sort of calls on the band to do a different kind of show than you normally do because everybody's sitting down.
24:28🔗AdamGoes by the name of Snake. Back when I was 19 years old. And it was...
24:33🔗They Might Be GiantsIs he friends with Spoon?
24:35🔗AdamNo, but he knows Weasel. And me and Snake just... We just threw blankets in the back of his car. We're going to go to Tijuana. We had 20 bucks in our pocket. We're going to... It's about a two and a half hour drive from LA. And we're going to have ourselves a few drinks and TJ and then just sleep on the beach in Tijuana. We used to do that kind of junk all the time. But he had his stepmother's Mazda, old like 74 Mazda, and had four bald tires on. I mean, actually you could see belt on all four tires and no spare. And it one blew out in San Jose. I mean, San Juan. And we parked the car on the side of the freeway and we ran across the freeway and we slept on someone's lawn.
25:17🔗AdamAnd then the next day... You had UFO on the way.
25:19🔗They Might Be GiantsI was going to say, I thought somehow UFO playing at the coach house was going to come out.
25:24🔗AdamWe just stayed near the coach house on somebody's lawn. And then the next day, Snake said, well here's what we'll do. We'll buy a used tire for like $7 because we didn't have any money. We'll put it on ourselves. And I said, no, you can't put a tire on yourself. You can't put a tire on a rim yourself. You need a whole big, you know, pneumatic device. And then we got this huge argument. Oh yeah, I'll put it on. No, you won't. Yes, I will. Snake, they can't, you can't do that. And so the point is, is we put another bald tire on and drove into TJ. Actually, I would get it. Bought it. And they put it on. Yeah, I told them to put it on. Pay the extra three bucks. Save ourselves six hours.
26:07🔗DrewYou wonder why the wheels are coming off the wagon right now in this country.
27:11🔗AdamAll right. Hold on, Teresa. We got a gamble on your past. So you guys are going to enjoy this part of the show. Do you have any money on you?
27:39🔗AdamHere's the deal. I don't know why, but once in a while, we gamble on a caller. And what we gamble on is not what's going on with them today. I don't care what color they are, where they work, or who they're married to. It's what went on in their past. What brought them to where they are today? What was their childhood like? And there's a few things that always get us on the gambling role. One of them is the little girl voice. When I hear a woman who has a little girl voice, it usually means something happened to them a while ago. And they're trapped there.
28:15🔗DrewAnd babies at a young age, multiple babies. That's a clue.
28:18🔗AdamRight, right. So, we are going to try to figure out what's going on, what Teresa's past was basically.
28:57🔗DrewI'm not in unclear water here because we don't know much. We don't know anything about her except we have a sense that there's something going on. So I'm going to have to just really give it a guess. And I'm going to say parents broke up when she was about two couple step dads who were moderately abusive. Somebody was an alcoholic addict and pretty kind of violent around her. And she started having kids at a young age, obviously, because of all this. I'm not sure there was any sexual abuse necessarily.
29:24🔗AdamVery solid, John. Now, a decent bet sometimes is just go, no trauma, good family.
29:33🔗They Might Be GiantsNo trauma. No Catholic upbringing.
29:35🔗AdamParents still together. Sometimes they don't admit to things.
29:38🔗They Might Be GiantsDon't know what I'm talking about. But the mini pill thing seems like, isn't that some kind of conscientious, like going to a doctor, taking the doctor's advice, getting it together? Could be 21 little girl voice because she's 5 feet tall.
29:55🔗AdamCould be, could be. So, all right, why don't you go with no difficulties. Right, okay, nothing out of the ordinary.
30:02🔗They Might Be GiantsThis reminds me of playing poker on the bus like 3 in the morning with our sound man, Monty, where he's like, hey, let me show you the magical effects. And then the money goes away.
31:33🔗AdamTell us about your past and then we'll get to your current problems.
31:36🔗CallerOh, actually, my mom and dad are still together, and my dad didn't drink when I was born. He drank before, but they're really religious. I was a daddy's girl, and then I got married when I was 18, and I had really, really bad boyfriends before that. In fact, one beat me really bad.
31:57🔗DrewHow old were you when you started having sex?
32:37🔗CallerI was anorexic before I got my first baby.
32:40🔗AdamIsn't that an eating disorder? No doctor.
32:42🔗DrewThat's an eating disorder, Teresa. So what I'm getting towards here is your parents were real intrusive with you. I mean, your dad was not just doting upon you, he was sort of controlling and really involved in you in lots of ways, right?
32:56🔗CallerWell, I don't know what you mean by that.
32:59🔗DrewVery often kids have eating disorders or in families where the parents don't acknowledge you as a separate person, they act out all their own stuff on you and they need you to be what they need you to be rather than allowing you to be who you are.
33:10🔗CallerOh, I get what you're saying. No, actually what it was is I had an older sister that was really, really, really skinny and I'm not as tall as her, I'm only 5'6. And when I was like 13 years old, I weighed 98 pounds and I thought that was disgusting and I just knew.
33:28🔗AdamYou're 5'6, you're 98 pounds, you're 13, you think that's disgusting, there's something going on. It's not because you have an older sister is on the volleyball team.
33:40🔗CallerNo, they would fight, but then they'd always.
33:44🔗AdamAll right, hold on one second. Let me talk to the boys here for a second. See, this is why the no problems is a good bet here because Teresa is a chock full of problems, but she's not really coming to any of them. She's got an eating disorder or had an eating disorder. She's had a couple of abusive, physically abusive boyfriends.
34:14🔗They Might Be GiantsYou're gonna work on Teresa.
34:15🔗DrewNo, well the point, the reason we do this is to try to teach people something. One of the things you can learn here is how intensive people's denial systems are. I mean, Teresa's telling us about all this pathology and everything's perfect.
34:38🔗CallerOkay, nothing's perfect with me right now though. I mean...
34:41🔗DrewWhat's the problem now? Other than you may be pregnant again.
34:44🔗CallerYeah, that and then the fact that I was married at 18, so I feel like I never had my teenage years. I feel like I've been a mom longer than I was a teenager.
35:35🔗AdamDo you understand? You thought you were fat, you never thought you were good enough, but there was an environment that helped nurture you and they didn't do a good job.
35:46🔗CallerCould it be that I always wanted to be good enough for other people and the reactions that I got weren't, I mean, I'm a person that needs...
35:55🔗DrewHere's a theory that people, right, children of narcissistic parents have to basically end up just, their whole life is about making everything okay for the parents, you're the caretaker of those parents and then you become the caretaker of everybody else too and now you're the caretaker in your family and you're always subjugating your own needs on behalf of your family. Here's what you got to do. You are a mom now. That's it. You are a mom now, but you have to find some way of retaining that responsibility, but at the same time taking care of yourself. You have these instincts that you need to go out and act on some of these teenage issues.
36:54🔗CallerI have a couple of your albums. I want to know why you never put pictures of yourself in there.
36:58🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, that's early trauma, I think.
37:01🔗They Might Be GiantsNo, honestly, it's an interesting thing. We made videos which had our pictures in it, but I think basically we try to put the music out in the way that lets people's imaginations run wild.
37:14🔗CallerYou're Apollo 18, you guys are pretty trippy. What's up with mannequins and mechanical stuff?
37:21🔗AdamHey, Teresa, I hate to cut you off right now when we get a little momentum with the band, but we're going way long on this call. But let me just ask you one thing real quick. Your dad would spank the pillow instead of spank you.
37:36🔗AdamOkay. I see. I think that may have just been a euphemism when he said he was going to go spank the pillow. I don't know if he was actually...
38:10🔗They Might Be GiantsI didn't actually use the word denial, but I was feeling it.
38:13🔗DrewBut you were in that camp, and see, she had to at least get part of this.
38:16🔗AdamAll right. I think we'll take a break. We'll be... we'll divvy up the money during the break, fellas, and we'll be back with They Might Be Giants.
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39:01🔗AdamAll right, wait a minute, we're hearing some UFO here. Did they get to the Lights Out Chicago part in this song? Oh, it's not the live version? Let's just listen to a little UFO for a minute. Now I'm in my underpants, scratching myself. Phone's ringing, but I can't hear it. Oh, it's heavy.
39:28🔗They Might Be GiantsAnarchy smells quite a bit.
39:30🔗AdamHey, don't you make fun of UFO. All right. I'll let you get the Lights Out London part on.
40:00🔗DrewAbout guys being attracted to that little girl voice.
40:03🔗AdamAll right. We're here with They Might Be Giants.
40:06🔗They Might Be GiantsI mean, actually, my wife as a whole, she's really freaked out by women have the baby girl voice. I never heard this idea that it was like that.
40:20🔗They Might Be GiantsA developmental delay thing. I just thought it was more like a head trip in, welcome to my spiderweb, you know.
40:28🔗They Might Be GiantsIt could be more like, I mean, there's all these women in Japan who talk like that. You know, it's very, very common in Japan.
40:35🔗DrewYou know what they do to their women there when they're growing up.
40:36🔗AdamThey bind their feet like Mrs. Livingston from the courtship of Eddie's father.
40:43🔗DrewHe's old enough for that too. But you made an interesting comment, which was that a lot of guys are attracted to that. And I would bet the guys that attracted that kind of voice are abusers.
40:54🔗AdamI don't think it's some sort of chuckwagon bell going off or abusers, but...
40:59🔗DrewWhy not? We always wonder how the guys figure it out.
41:03🔗AdamWell, here's the point. You can read voices just like some people can analyze handwriting. Drew and I, from listening to thousands of people a year, can sort of, guys and girls, can sort of tell where they're coming from based on the tone and the cadence and that kind of thing.
41:22🔗They Might Be GiantsIf a guy calls up with a little girl's voice, what can you tell about them?
41:51🔗Yeah. I lived in New York until like a month ago. And then my parents moved out to Chicago. Well, actually we're in the suburbs, but. And I really hate it out here.
42:30🔗DrewYeah, but imagine trying to start, trying to muster the resource to try to start all over again, and live in a different part of the country.
43:10🔗AdamOh, listen, all I did was doodle on a peachy folder my entire scholastic career. So what do I know? But Mark, you were a good student when you were in New York.
43:26🔗DrewBut Mark, you know, look, you've only been there a few weeks. This is like this reminds me of the Alan Sherman song or the kid writing back. Yeah. Right.
43:34🔗AdamHello, father. You know, is it Camp Granada?
43:39🔗AdamThere's a new verse. That's the remix to this letter.
43:43🔗DrewBut, you know, it just gives some time. Yeah, you got to give it time, Mark, because it's your reality now and you will find a way. It's just so hard. Everything's hard at your age.
43:51🔗AdamHere's the beautiful part. You're going to turn 18 and like go off somewhere and be pissed that you have to leave all your friends in your life in Chicago.
43:58🔗DrewYeah. Chicago is a great town. We love Chicago.
44:00🔗AdamAs a matter of fact, we'll be there Friday after tomorrow and all I have to say.
44:05🔗I love Chicago too but it's like my brother always said, it's a good imitation.
44:53🔗CallerI'll be the one with the prosthetic forehead on my real head. My question is, have you guys ever toured with the Bare Naked Ladies or Moxie Froovus? That would be like my dream tour to see all three of you guys together. Oh, wow.
45:05🔗They Might Be GiantsYou know, we have the same booking agent. We haven't, we've never done any shows with Bare Naked Ladies, but Moxie Froovus early on in their career did a show with us in Canada. That was a long time ago, though.
45:18🔗AdamWe had the Bare Naked Ladies on in here in studio, must have been three or four weeks ago. Nice guys.
45:28🔗They Might Be GiantsThey've got a phenomenal hit right now.
45:30🔗AdamYeah, which is funny because it's probably their tenth best song, but they didn't play the nine before it. I mean, I'm glad they're getting airplay. And it's, hold on, let me just say something about the stupidity of radio stations for just one second. I know we're on about 60 of them and they make it pissed when I hear this, but the Bare Naked Ladies have been around for a number of years and had a number of very good songs which UA Holes never played. Now they have a song that's decent. It's all right. It's catchy. It's poppy. It's clever, but it's not. It's good.
46:02🔗They Might Be GiantsIt's very immediate, though. It's got that hit. I mean, it's got that je ne sais hit thing about it.
46:08🔗AdamPeople don't have to listen to it more than once to enjoy it. As a matter of fact, if you hear it too many times, you start to hate it, which is unlike a lot of their other stuff, which you like more and more as you hear it. But it always irks me when a band has a bunch of good songs and no one will touch them for years and then they come out with a sort of poppy. It's almost like they give in and go, hell, we got to get some radio play and everybody jumps at the bank.
46:30🔗They Might Be GiantsIt wasn't like that. You know, it wasn't like that. It's like a very uncompromised, very... It's a song like theirs kind of songs.
46:36🔗AdamI'm not saying they sold out or they all put their heads together and said how do we get on the radio. I don't blame Bare Naked Ladies at all. I blame the program directors around this country of ours who should have been playing many other Bare Naked Ladies songs before this one.
46:51🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, you know what we say, keep on rocking.
47:32🔗AdamMade is Loveline. We're here with John and Jonathan from They Might Be Giants. Severe tire damage is the name of the new CD, and as per usual, we'll take our brief 10-second timeout. At the top of the arm, we'll be right back.
48:02🔗AdamIt is Loveline. They Might Be Giants is the name of the band who's in here tonight. John and Jonathan are both here, Drew, of course, and myself, Adam Corolla, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. You know, it's funny. We were just talking about the Barenaked Ladies. When the band came in here, and I was looking at their sort of best of CD, and I was asking about that song that wasn't on it, and we don't want to go retrace those footsteps.
48:29🔗They Might Be GiantsDon't Let's Start is the name of the song, available on our first album.
48:34🔗AdamReally enjoy that song, and I thought, jeez, I hope that's on here and it wasn't, but that's all right. You can get on another one, and this is great anyway.
48:42🔗DrewBut you've always said that they always leave one off.
48:44🔗AdamNow here's the funny thing. We were talking about the Bear Naked Ladies, and one of my, they were in here three or four weeks ago, and they have a live Best Of that came out about then, and they were plugging, and I said, oh great, because my favorite Bear Naked Ladies song is Alternative Girlfriend, and that was not on their Best Of live CD.
49:04🔗They Might Be GiantsSo what you're trying to say is that there's actually a parallel universe.
49:08🔗AdamYes, between the Bear Naked Ladies and us.
49:10🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, we're still waiting for our lifetime achievement hit, which hasn't happened to us yet, so we're on a little delay.
49:17🔗They Might Be GiantsRight. But we're on a ten second delay.
49:20🔗AdamWouldn't you say that Alternative Girlfriend should be on the Bear Naked Ladies Best Of CD?
49:24🔗They Might Be GiantsI think we've played so many concerts where somebody says you didn't play our favorite song.
49:28🔗They Might Be GiantsThere's always somebody.
49:30🔗DrewSo it's not a deliberate attempt to try to make sure that certain numbers of kinds of records are sold.
49:38🔗They Might Be GiantsWe're really against the contrarian thing that a lot of rock bands, we like to make our audience happy.
49:46🔗It's not like we're going to, we will not play that song because we were here to torture you.
49:52🔗They Might Be GiantsThe one you love. There's another song off our very first record, just like Don't Let It Start, called She's An Angel, which we played for years and years and years. I mean, it's one of our best songs. We played it for 12 years straight at every show. And then at a certain point, it was just like, hey, this is getting to the Wayne Newton stage of like, we're going to be shaking people's hands in the audience as we're playing it. It just felt kind of wrong. And then we just started doing it again a couple of days ago, and it feels really great again.
50:23🔗AdamIt's like having sex with a girlfriend you met in an airport that you hadn't seen in five years.
51:14🔗CallerNow, she's like, I'm kind of scared she's going to stop paying attention to me and everything.
51:18🔗DrewShe will. That's sort of normal behavior for somebody that age that gets a boyfriend. We hear about that all the time and it's painful. I think the best way to do is to let her know that you miss her and that you need her around and you want her around and see if you can get her to be a little more balanced. It's better for her if she doesn't sort of throw everything into the boyfriend. It's something that teenagers do.
52:18🔗AdamAll right, Krista. Take care. Yeah, I never, it's been so many years, but I remember that time when everyone was sort of breaking off the guys were off getting girlfriends, the girls were off getting boyfriends. And if you weren't going off and hooking up with somebody, you're alone. It was a pretty, pretty lonely time. That's when you turned in on yourself, right, Drew? It's a lot of time.
52:46🔗AdamThat's when I started putting holes in the melon rinds and then putting them in the microwave to warm them up. You know, just a body temperature. You guys ever do that?
53:49🔗CallerWell, I mean, it's like, what's average or?
53:52🔗DrewThere are parameters for development at your age in terms of what is and is not normal levels of development. And so there's probably some data out there what size is normal. But basically, you want to know, are you going to have a normal size or extra large or whatever? And you've got to wait till you're 18 to find that or 21, really, to find that out.
54:31🔗AdamHow are you doing now? Are you okay? You seem about average.
54:35🔗CallerI don't really know. I mean, but also I got a question. Like when you're like masturbating, or for me anyway, it's like when I'm with a girl, it gets like extra like huge. But when I'm like just masturbating or nothing, like trying to tie one off before I go out with a girlfriend or something, it's like it doesn't get as big. Is there like a reason for that or is that normal?
55:10🔗AdamSon of a bitch. I swear to God, I wasn't even thinking about oral sex at 14. You didn't know about it? I didn't know what it was. No, I didn't know that's possible. I was like just, you know, rubbing the beanbag chair and stuff like that. I didn't even know that was... I thought I'd die before that happened or I would die the first time it happened. You're 14 and you're getting oral sex from these girls?
55:33🔗CallerWell, I've had it. Now, I moved to a different place, so I don't really know anybody now, but I did. Yeah. And I've noticed that when I'm with a girl, it gets a lot bigger than it used to be.
55:44🔗DrewIt's just the amount of excitement you're into there.
55:46🔗AdamYeah. You're pretty comfortable with yourself by now. You're no big thrill. Try putting a little perfume on your other wrist and sniff that.
55:53🔗CallerThat'll get you going. All right, Bob?
55:55🔗AdamOkay. All right, Bob. Listen, Bob. Wear a condom at all times, would you? Okay.
56:01🔗DrewOkay. Yeah. Just keep rotating them. Meal time. Put on a new condom.
56:08🔗AdamNever take one off. Oh, Drew, you didn't get any oral sex at 14, did you? No. John, any oral sex?
56:19🔗DrewAlthough this confirms what we've heard from a lot of high school kids, which is that young women are performing oral sex on the males, and they consider it sort of part of the making out process.
56:26🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, I thought it was interesting that he said not sex, but it was the new Clinton definition of sex.
57:10🔗AdamOh, think how much better they're going to be with the horn section.
57:13🔗They Might Be GiantsI remember that show. Yeah, that was a really fun show.
57:16🔗CallerYeah, it was cool. But a question for you. What was your inspiration for Cowtown?
57:23🔗They Might Be GiantsGeez, you know, that was one of the first songs we ever cooked up for the band. And I can't even remember what was the inspiration for it. I think it was one of those very stream of consciousness kind of lyrics that just came out of nowhere.
57:38🔗CallerActually, I was going to ask about the band Naked Ladies, but that guy beat me to it.
57:59🔗AdamThey're intelligent and they're good and they're both real good live, but it's funny, it doesn't mean you have to pair them up, you know what I mean? Better that they should spread out and cover opposite ends of the country.
58:10🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, they're from Canada, we're from Brooklyn.
59:34🔗They Might Be GiantsSettle down with that dignity stuff.
59:37🔗DrewI like these guys more and more all the time. Susan, what's going on?
59:40🔗You know, I've been listening to you for a while now and I hear you guys talking about the little girl voice, how, you know, you're going to bet on what's wrong with their life. Well, in my voice, I'm like carrying on normal conversations with people and I get into this type of phone sex talk where they think I'm seducing them or something. I'm just talking to them regularly. I work as a reception and I got into lots of trouble where I'd be talking to these customers and they would start saying, you know, inappropriate things to me like, you know, I'd like to see you naked and absurd things. And I used to think, well, you know, am I talking wrong or is something wrong with my voice or?
1:01:05🔗They Might Be GiantsOkay. I don't mean to be a contrarian here, but just because somebody survived abuse doesn't mean that they're necessarily putting out vibes that they're a victim. I think there's something to be said for like guys on the phone being wildly irresponsible with total strangers.
1:01:23🔗DrewEvery single woman we speak to that was raped had early childhood victimization.
1:01:30🔗They Might Be GiantsI'm not saying that victimization is not common. I'm just saying that just because you survived being victimized doesn't mean you're putting out vibes that you are a victim. That's like saying you can never overcome any problem.
1:01:40🔗You know, somehow those comebacks seem to pick me out, you know? And I'm trying to figure out, is it my voice? Is it... You know, once they say something that's inappropriate, I'm like so shocked. And I just say, okay, you asshole, get off the phone. Or, you know, of course, I didn't do that at work. I would just get out of the conversation and be done with it. But I find that it's happening more than I think it should be. And I'm wondering, is there something I can do to stop this from happening? I mean, I go to counseling. What more can I do? I mean, my voice isn't extremely strange, is it, or?
1:02:11🔗DrewNo, I just think that people don't want to believe me when I say that's just the way humans are. So maybe you can help. Maybe you can help. Wait, wait, hold on. Maybe you can help.
1:02:21🔗DrewBecause they don't want to hear me talk.
1:02:23🔗AdamWell, no one likes to hear the doctor get preachy. You go back and read your JAMA. I'll have a heart-to-heart with the boys and Susan and see if I can make any headway here.
1:02:33🔗AdamAll right, listen, guys are pigs. There's no doubt about that. Guys are out of line. And anybody who gets you on the other line and starts coming on to you sexually is out of line. That doesn't make it your fault.
1:02:46🔗AdamBut be quiet. The point is, is they're doing it consistently. And anytime someone does something consistently, you're the constant in that. Meaning if one out of every five guys starts going down a sexual path with you and they get another receptionist in there and it's one out of every 25 guys that goes down the sexual paths with her, then you're the difference. Now, what is it that is coaxing that?
1:03:14🔗They Might Be GiantsShe's working in an office where everybody is her superior. She's the person answering the phone. She's in a subservient role. She's just completely set up by the culture, the business culture that she's in.
1:03:28🔗AdamBut other people don't have that problem. Well, she's calling and saying she has a problem.
1:03:33🔗They Might Be GiantsIt is a problem. I'm just saying that it works on a bunch of different levels.
1:03:37🔗AdamWhat I mean is there are many factors here.
1:03:43🔗AdamThere's no doubt about that. Obviously, this could happen to anybody at any given time. Although a healthy person immediately nips it in the bud. They don't get far down that sexual road before the person hangs up or transfers them or gives them a good tongue lashing or what have you.
1:04:01🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, nobody's getting that far down the road with her.
1:04:15🔗DrewBecause that's the way, that's what happens to people who are abused at children without exception. It's just the way it is. Now, you can do something about it. I'm not saying you can't do anything about it. It's just the consequence of the circumstance of your child.
1:04:28🔗AdamWell, and I think what John's objecting to, and it's only because John's a real good guy, is the stigma of once a victim, always a victim.
1:04:37🔗DrewRight, which is not the case. And we're not saying that.
1:05:16🔗CallerBecause they were... And they went to bed at nine o'clock, and after their lights went out, well, it didn't matter what happened, I'd be out all night.
1:05:27🔗AdamAnd then you went on to some bad or abusive relationships after that?
1:05:31🔗CallerTotally. At 12 years old, I was dating an 18-year-old jewel thief, so you know it goes from there.
1:05:44🔗AdamSo you had, you had 39 years of a certain life and you expect to undo it in 24 months of counseling, and it just doesn't happen that fast. So the fact that you're in counseling, the fact that you're calling up, and the fact that you present this as a problem means you're making headway.
1:06:02🔗DrewBut I mean, you pose an interesting question, though, and the one that we've never been able to answer, and one that we every night question about is, how do these guys know it? How do these assholes know they can get away with this? How do they pick out the victims? What kind of radar do they have that these assholes can do this every time? And these are the people that get raped and get into the abusive relationships, and the guys go after these women.
1:06:24🔗AdamDon't know. They haven't figured it out, but they know. And that's the interesting phenomenon. And we talk to a... It happens every other night. Some girl calls in and says she's 16. She has a 22-year-old boyfriend, and he just date raped her in his van. And we always say, what happened before that? And inevitably, something happened before that. Something with the babysitter, something with the stepdad, something, something, six, seven years old, what have you. Something set them up. Doesn't make it their fault. Doesn't mean the guy's not a criminal. Doesn't mean the guy doesn't deserve to, you know, be locked up for the rest of his life.
1:07:06🔗They Might Be GiantsBut are you saying, I mean, you know...
1:07:09🔗They Might Be GiantsAre you sure you're not, in this case, you're not using the Dr. Laura defense of, you know, it's, there's something there that we know. What, but what did you really call about? You know, the, that we were talking about before.
1:07:21🔗AdamRight, we were talking about before the show started.
1:07:23🔗They Might Be GiantsThat Dr. Laura always turns it around with this, you know, why are you really calling? Because I mean, lots of people have, you know, things that happened in their past. I just think that, I just think that, I just know some people are in work environments where they are the lowest person on the totem pole and they are constantly being hammered on, hit on by guys who are totally out of line and it's, you know, it's just, it's...
1:07:44🔗DrewBut the guys that do that, certain kinds of guys do that, the ones that know they can get away with it.
1:07:49🔗They Might Be GiantsBut they are also, but they are in power structures, they are in power structures where they can get away with it. They can, you know, how many people are somebody's boss and if the roles were reversed, if she was sitting in the corner office and somebody came in and was that inappropriate, she could fire them.
1:08:06🔗DrewYou're actually touching on an issue that's a hot button for me, which is why people in authority must be healthy and must be held accountable behavior. It's why the Clinton thing freaks me out, because those are the people that set the structure for the entire social fabric. And the people who are unhealthy, like Susan, are completely victimized by these people in power if they misuse their position. And it is the responsibility of anybody ahead of anybody to not do that, whether it's a teacher, a physician, a dentist, give a GD what it is. But that's the way that society has to work, and the society has to maintain that.
1:08:46🔗They Might Be GiantsI think you over-exerted there.
1:08:48🔗AdamWhen Drew does that about once a year, it's like when some big fat NFL lineman picks up a fumble around the five and rumbles 95 yards. He's got to hit the sideline. They always have that picture of him sucking off the oxygen mask. That's what Drew's got to do now. All right, we're going to take a break, and we'll be back with more of They Might Be Giants.
1:09:07🔗CallerLoveline, Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew, phone numbers 1-800-LOVE-191. QEBM.
1:09:40🔗AdamHey, it's the Loveline, phone number, 1-800-L-V-E-1-9-1. They Might Be Giants are here, John and Jonathan. Severe Tire Damage is the name of the CD, and actually we're going to hear something off of that. Now, most of the stuff on the CD is live, and it's stuff that's been on other CDs before, but not this one, correct?
1:10:02🔗They Might Be GiantsYes, we've got a single out. It's a brand new studio recording of a song called Dr. Worm, and we've done a video for it. It's actually, it's on the box. You ever watch The Box?
1:10:13🔗AdamI have seen The Box where people request videos.
1:10:17🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah, it's on The Box now, which is kind of interesting.
1:10:20🔗AdamDo you have to, do you pay for those? Do we pay? No, does one pay when you request a song? It's like $3.95.
1:10:29🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah, yeah, I think that's how it works. Yeah, people call up and request it, and you can see the video that you paid for, yeah. It's crazy, but yeah, it's there.
1:10:39🔗AdamI call it the old-fashioned, but I like the potluck variety, where I just sit there and get surprised by, hey, it's the Culture Club.
1:10:45🔗They Might Be GiantsYeah, well, it's a different selection on the Vox. It's like a very odd Vox popular kind of.
1:10:51🔗AdamIs the Vox, is it any kind of stepping stone to MTV or do they not care at all?
1:10:58🔗They Might Be GiantsI have no idea. I have no idea what the, I mean, I think the Vox primarily plays a lot of stuff that is really a little bit on the fringe. I think they play a lot of rap stuff that's too extreme for like the, you know, for the mainstream thing.
1:11:15🔗AdamSomething pretty hardcore like that. Because it seems like every time I do see that, I see something that seems a little edgy, something I wouldn't see.
1:11:23🔗AdamAll right. So do you guys know what number the worm is? I mean, Dr. Worm?
1:11:28🔗They Might Be GiantsNo. No. You just have to sit and sit through all the old dirty bastard videos and check out Dr. Worm.
1:11:35🔗AdamKeep your eye on the box and now keep your ear on the box. Oh, yes, that is Dr. Worm. They Might Be Giants off of Severe Tire Damage. And I gotta say, not only is that a good song, but that sounds like there should be a series called Dr. Worm. It really sounds like, can you see a guy in like with a stethoscope, and he's chasing a guy firing a gun and...
1:15:08🔗AdamThere's one where he's jumping on the hood of a car and getting knocked into the boxes, and the other one where he's with the beautiful woman out on a date.
1:15:26🔗They Might Be GiantsThey get the ladies, they get the mention.
1:15:28🔗AdamWell, to me, and I don't mean to cut you off, and with the exception of UFO, there's no phone that doesn't sound better without some horns. It just rounds the whole thing out for me. You just can't go wrong. Alright, so another nice effort from They Might Be Giants.
1:15:44🔗They Might Be GiantsThat was just getting hyper excited about the fact that the producer or the woman from the doorway.
1:16:07🔗They Might Be GiantsIt was filmed in Brooklyn.
1:16:10🔗They Might Be GiantsIt's a lot of performance.
1:16:13🔗They Might Be GiantsIt's set in a sort of a Soviet style medical office. Probably not.
1:16:19🔗AdamHold on, hold on a second. Let me give you the right answer. Chick pulse or top up? No. There's a bunch of stone teenagers who are thinking about phoning this in right now.
1:16:26🔗They Might Be GiantsThere is animation. There is a Robert Culpa moment.
1:16:30🔗AdamAnd the chick pulse or top up at the end? That's right.
1:16:33🔗They Might Be GiantsYou're like living in some 80s.
1:17:35🔗AdamLet me just do... thank you. Let me just do a quick and formal poll here of our young listeners. If there was a video that was going to be on the box, one of them was about the former Soviet. Union. And the other one was a chick puller top up. Which one would you go for?
1:18:12🔗AdamJust what's your question? I'll discuss it with you.
1:18:14🔗CallerFirst, I just wanted to say that you guys really rock. I really appreciate all the stuff you guys do. And I had a question about you. I actually had a comment for you, Adam. Do you remember when you had Ron Jeremy on and you wanted the video, Spank Me, F Me?
1:18:38🔗CallerI have no idea. Probably basic price. I don't know how much a porno is nowadays.
1:18:43🔗AdamRon promised me he would send it to me. Let me just backtrack and get the boys caught up. We had Larry Flint in here about a year ago. I asked Larry what other publications were under the Flint umbrella. It's weird. He does some sailing books and some computer magazines and things like that. But one of them is Busty. I said, Larry, I need Busty. I need a year subscription to Busty, which has since run out, by the way, for Larry's listening. And I said, Larry's got as my witness, I'll bring that empire to its knees if I don't get a Busty subscription. And three weeks later, I got my first issue of Busty.
1:19:23🔗They Might Be GiantsAnd I was looking through your mail carrier must have been very proud of you.
1:19:26🔗AdamComes in a plain plain brown bag. I'm like like the guys who live in mail aren't hip to that by now. But one of the first issues I had was a they were doing a movie review. It starred Ron Jeremy, Kayla Cleavage.
1:19:42🔗They Might Be GiantsYou're reading the articles.
1:19:44🔗AdamThey do some pretty funny writing in those things. And Minka, the big busted Asian porn star. And when we had Ron, and I really wanted to get hold of this video. Because it's just like you just saw a few snippets of it. And I thought this would be good. So I called the video store and I said the movies called spanked me, f me, but they say the whole thing.
1:20:05🔗AdamSo I called the video store and I said it that way. Excuse me, do you have spanked me, f me? And the guy went, huh? I said, spank me, f me.
1:20:14🔗They Might Be GiantsDid you preface this by saying like, I'm looking for a porno video?
1:20:17🔗AdamI may have used adult selection. And then he didn't know what I was talking about. So I finally said spank me. And then I said the whole word. And then he hung up. So when Ron came in, I said, I need spank me, f me. And Ron hung up. No, Ron said he would get it to me and he never did. But Josh, are you there? What's that phone number? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Maybe you should tell me off the air. I don't want everyone calling and clogging up the lines when I'm trying to call.
1:21:49🔗DrewIt certainly is not a healthy circumstance for a family to try to establish itself.
1:21:55🔗AdamYeah, it's a little weird. On the other hand, you're 17 and she's how old?
1:21:58🔗DrewShe's 17. It's like a workplace thing, you know? They're always going to be in that workplace. What if it doesn't work out?
1:22:04🔗AdamWhat if they don't get married for another couple years and they're out of the house and everything? That's not that weird. You know what I mean? It's a little weird around Christmas and Thanksgiving, but it's extra super weird if they get married tomorrow and they move in with you.
1:22:20🔗CallerWell, I mean because we will always be known as the couple where my mom or my dad and her mom are married and we're kind of step-brother and step-sister.
1:22:31🔗AdamIt is weird, but it's not biologically weird. And you have an excuse, which is you got there before dad did. Well, it's weirder if dad and mom got married and then like if Peter started dating Marcia.
1:22:45🔗CallerYeah. But like since we're before, is it different? You don't know.
1:22:50🔗AdamIt is, except for no one will ever know.
1:23:08🔗AdamLife is weird. But you'll you'll move out of the house if you can. You've got to get out of the house. You can't all move in together. She's got to live in the yard.
1:23:16🔗CallerI wanted to say to the band really quick. I've never heard you guys before, but I listen to your music just now and it sounds really good. Cool.
1:23:22🔗They Might Be GiantsCool. Come see us. We're on tour.
1:24:35🔗AdamWe're here with the Johns. John and John from They Might Be Giants. We just have a little banana fan of a fan of discussion. During the break there, Drew's got his trail mix and he's caught a second win. Ready to roll here, Drew?
1:25:44🔗They Might Be GiantsWe should explain to the people listening. We were doing a show at the Majeska Theater in Milwaukee. We were playing a song, the only polka in our show, called The Famous Polka. And it was about, I don't know, how far into the show? It was like an hour.
1:25:58🔗CallerIt was about halfway through the show.
1:26:00🔗They Might Be GiantsRight. We were doing the show. And the security guys were kind of holding everybody in their seats. Everyone was standing up, but nobody was in the aisle. There was a big aisle and a big front in front of the stage. And usually people dance at our shows. So I said this thing that I will forever regret, which is I said, I'm sure the fire marshal wouldn't mind if you all came down and danced, which the audience in the front row took as an invitation to jump up onto the stage. And, you know, I mean, obviously, like all the aisle filled and people started dancing, but also suddenly there was like, you know, a few dozen people on the front of the stage, which was actually a makeshift kind of apron above an orchestra pit. And they started dancing. And well, why don't you tell the rest of the story? Were you in the?
1:26:51🔗CallerYeah, I was on the stage when it collapsed.
1:26:53🔗They Might Be GiantsAnd what and what was it like?
1:27:07🔗CallerAnd I'm like, did that just happen? That was kind of fun.
1:27:09🔗They Might Be GiantsIt looked really mysterious. And it looked like everybody sat down at the same time.
1:27:13🔗AdamWeren't you on the stage when it collapsed?
1:27:15🔗They Might Be GiantsWe were on the part that didn't collapse.
1:27:16🔗They Might Be GiantsWe were on the back behind the fire curtain. So we were fine. And it was like this, you know, Doug Henning, you know, disappearing thing. All of a sudden, all these people dancing, they just went away.
1:28:00🔗AdamPeople do that. They go, He cracked his head wide open. I saw his brain.
1:28:05🔗They Might Be GiantsWell, I guess they were like, There was like a half dozen people who were hospitalized. But it was, I have to say, when that happened, the first thing I thought was, it's been really interesting being a performer in the rock business. I wonder what I'll be doing now because it really seemed obvious that They Might Be Giants career had just ended.
1:28:24🔗They Might Be GiantsThat's right. We got to see it in Milwaukee.
1:28:27🔗AdamThere was never a lawsuit or anything like that?
1:28:30🔗They Might Be GiantsWe knew we were expecting it, but nothing ever happened.
1:28:32🔗AdamWell, it's a kid's fault. They heard Roll Out the Barrels and Al Charge the Stage.
1:28:37🔗They Might Be GiantsMilwaukee is a huge polka town, big German-Polish community.
1:28:41🔗They Might Be GiantsWe got the polka dispensation.
1:28:43🔗They Might Be GiantsAnd apparently some Persians in there as well.
1:28:46🔗AdamYeah, well, they're known for their polka.
1:28:49🔗AdamI got to say, and I know this may sound a little corny, but I'll tell you, the Middle East could use a little polka music about it. They really could. That's what that country's lacking. They're singing like someone stepped on their foot over there.
1:29:04🔗AdamIt's a long story. I don't want to get into that. But the point is, wouldn't it be a better place if there's a little polka music piped into that area of the world?
1:29:53🔗CallerYep. Let me get this out of the way. Dr. Drew, I work with one of the most smartest engineers in the world, and I would put you next to him any day.
1:30:06🔗DrewWait a minute. Let him give you a compliment.
1:30:08🔗CallerAdam, most of the time, it sounds like it's just a bunch of crap rolling out of your mouth, and then all of a sudden with the last few sentences tie together and make it absolutely awesome.
1:30:18🔗AdamThat's right. It's like a big dookie draw string, right at the very end, just cinching the whole string of crap together. I think I may have done it right then.
1:30:29🔗CallerWhat's up, Tony? I am just as fired up about this Clinton thing as you sound like you are. I think that this whole thing definitely has an impact on the youth of America, and if it doesn't, it definitely should, because we elect the most public man in the world, and we let him get away with behaving like this.
1:30:50🔗AdamWell, how do we let him get away with it?
1:30:53🔗CallerIt's been, we've been, presidents have been doing this.
1:30:57🔗AdamAll right. I don't think Clinton's getting away with this, by the way. Sure as hell doesn't sound like it. Not in the last few days. But I agree with you. I mean, I'm split here because I'm an atheist who really doesn't care about anyone but myself. But on the other hand, I do understand that as the sort of leader of the free world, you really should try to set some kind of moral example, at least, I mean, here's my big beef with the guy. Well, here's the thing that I've always thought about. What are your chances of becoming the president of the United States of America? And then once you are the president of the United States of America, it's such a brief page in history that you're actually in the White House. Wouldn't you think to sort of keep it together for that relatively small period of time? It's a bat of an eye when you look at the history of the world and the country.
1:31:54🔗DrewFor even a lifetime. You know, it's a very small period of someone's life.
1:31:57🔗AdamYeah, we're basically asking most guys to pull it together for four years and others to pull it together for eight years. But when you look at the guy is going to live until he's 85, the eight years isn't much. It's equivalent to college and some grad school.
1:32:13🔗DrewYou got a few other things to occupy your time while you're there.
1:32:15🔗AdamMeanwhile, you go to China a couple of times and shake a few hands. You're not going to get too bored. You can whack off on Air Force One. I think they have a whole room dedicated to that. The point is, is you're going to be judged and written about and go down in history for the rest of your life, your family, your legacy. 500 years from now, people will talk about you and they're going to judge you on this very small period of time and you're going to bang an intern, a chubby intern. What kind of thinking is that? That's almost retarded thinking. And you know he's got a problem or he wouldn't risk it. You know what I mean? That's the power of the drama, if you think about it. He doesn't care if he's in the White House. He doesn't care that there's cameras all over the place. He doesn't care that he's being crucified now in front of the press and the nation. He needed the BJ. You know what I'm saying? That's the powerful, that's how powerful that impulse is.
1:33:09🔗DrewIt's also the grandiosity and the misuse of power and stuff. I mean I heard him apologize tonight. I feel so sorry for the guy, but he still can't go all the way with the apologies. Yeah, but he goes, he goes, I'm so sorry, but I'm so used to giving forgiveness to other people. All right. And I'm finding that we're asking for forgiveness.
1:33:23🔗AdamHe was practically crying. What do you want him to do? Start crying and bend over?
1:33:27🔗DrewI'm sorry for the guy, but it's not, he's not, it's really still not.
1:33:31🔗AdamBut listen, politicians aren't allowed to speak like human beings. They're really not. And I wish one would. We talked about this before. I wish a guy just get up there and he'd have a little sweat on his upper lip and his tie would be loose. And he'd say, you know what? Listen, I screwed up. I can't lie to you. And those of you who are married know.
1:33:50🔗They Might Be GiantsI feel like he was set up though. He was like, I mean, how many people, you know, he's like lying about sex. Is that a reason? Is that a reason to knock him out of office?
1:34:01🔗They Might Be GiantsI mean, I think it's absolutely crazy, embarrassing, weird.
1:34:06🔗DrewWe'll find out what lengths he went to lie about it.
1:34:09🔗AdamI don't think that him lying about an affair is good cause to knock a guy out of the office. I think a long history of abuse of power is a reason. And I think that's what it's starting to look like. And listen, I don't want him knocked out any more than the next guy, but I think things are starting to unfurl like he's been at this for a long time. And I don't like a guy abusing his power that way. That is not kosher. All right, don't mind the blowjob part, though. I'm all for that. Don't misunderstand me. I know there's a lot of kids listening, and I don't want them to misconstrue what I'm saying. A little break, please. Okay.
1:34:53🔗CallerAdam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline in just a minute or two.
1:35:25🔗AdamOh, John, John. Thank you very much for coming in. Thank you very much.
1:35:30🔗They Might Be GiantsIt's always a pleasure. Hey, our publicist asked me to remind everyone out there that we have a Dial a Song service online at dialsong.com. It's exactly what it sounds like.
1:35:41🔗AdamThey Might Be Giants, Severe Tire Damage is the name of the latest, and guys, we have a lot of bands on the show, and I have a lot of CDs that I get free, and they usually float around the trunk of my car until somebody steps on them. But this one's going right into the CD player.
1:36:08🔗AdamBest of luck. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
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