Episode 1000754887383

3:27 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

3:38 Adam Yeah, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 3108-54-4455. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. And tonight, James Marsters is our guest tonight. He's Spike. What the hell was that from Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Boo. I told Drew I was... See, Drew and I are both tired tonight for different reasons. Drew's tired because he's been working and he's been up for a long time. I'm tired because I woke up from a nap 40 minutes ago and I'm a little disoriented.

4:16 Drew And I'm pissed.

4:17 Adam And Drew's pissed. Are you jealous of my napping schedule?

4:21 Drew I'd say it's full blown envy.

4:23 Adam Let me tell everyone something. I used to apologize for my napping until I literally became a millionaire. Literally. Literally. I did. When you're poor, you have to apologize for napping. People call you at four in the afternoon. Were you taking a nap? Oh, no. I mean, yeah, but I was pulled it all night. I was working a triple shift, a graveyard and swing shift. And Phil couldn't make it in, so I had to pull his shift. But when you're literally a millionaire, literally, like myself, now I nap all goddamn day and laugh like a hyena. I answer the door in my bathrobe at four in the afternoon. How dare you? Yeah, that's what I say because people think, well, he must be some kind of genius if he can nap.

5:06 James Marsters See, you should be an actor. It just is part and parcel of the whole-

5:09 Adam I should.

5:09 James Marsters You sleep till two, yeah.

5:10 Adam Do you nap, James?

5:12 James Marsters Yes, ever since I moved down to Los Angeles, I was a theater actor, but I've embraced sloth and ignorance and I'm a happy man now. Good. It doesn't bother me.

5:18 Adam Well, ignorance was something I had a long time ago. I mean, that's something I always embraced, but the sloth part was something I hadn't really fully immersed myself in until recently.

5:28 James Marsters Just give up ambition and just roll.

5:31 Adam That's what I do.

5:31 James Marsters Until someone calls you, be passive with your life.

5:35 Adam You know, well, that's what I say to Drew all the time. Figure out exactly what you want to do in life and then nap.

5:42 Drew Well, you always forget that step.

5:44 Adam Oh, masturbate and then nap.

5:46 James Marsters Right.

5:47 Adam Tonight it came in a slightly different order, but that's another story.

5:51 Drew That's where you're just.

5:51 Adam One thing I do have to do, though, is I, speaking of sloth and ignorance, I have to set my clock that's in my bedroom for the current time. Not my egg timer, my actual clock, digital clock, because I still have not moved it ahead or moved it back.

6:08 Drew That takes great initiative.

6:10 Adam It does take some doing. Yeah, I'm going to have as Waldo get on that Monday morning if I can. I need someone to make me a note to tell us Waldo to do that. Here's my point. Here's my point. I'm good with it because I know it's an hour off, except for after a really hellacious nap when I'm disoriented. Do you know what I'm talking about?

6:29 James Marsters You're going to catch it someday.

6:31 Adam And when you're doing a radio show, it's really freaky because you wake up and it says 949 and you're thinking, Holy Christ, I've missed the show. But here I am. Isn't it great?

6:44 James Marsters Even Saturday, I have a very fancy kind of clock with its own button for daylight savings.

6:48 Drew Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.

6:51 James Marsters That's lazy.

6:51 Adam I'll give you $5,000.

6:54 James Marsters I felt so guilty for using it.

6:55 Adam $10,000. I'll have as well to bring $10,000 to your home so I may obtain that clock.

7:02 Drew You become thirst and hell.

7:03 Adam Drew, I'll give you $1,500 to be quiet. And all you people, $1,000 a piece to laugh, okay? Very well. Run along.

7:13 Drew And I know you've been working because you told me you were installing a latrine. We spoke yesterday.

7:18 Adam Oh, yes, yes, yes. I'm putting a urinal in my bathroom.

7:21 James Marsters Good for you.

7:22 Adam Yes. My new party house I'm building, three urinals.

7:26 James Marsters Three urinals. Thank you.

7:28 Adam Yes.

7:28 Drew With dividers?

7:30 Adam Yes. Divisions. Yes. Unlike the LA Airport. Yeah. And let me tell you something. When you walk into a man's garage, you see a floor hoist, you see an impact wrench, you see a table saw that runs off a 220 volts with a Beesmeyer fence on it that goes up to 54 inches. And then you see a urinal coming out of the wall and you go, this guy's all man. I would never F around with this guy. A urinal in the garage.

7:57 James Marsters Don't put the ice in the urinal though, man.

8:00 Adam No, only when I throw parties.

8:01 James Marsters Okay.

8:01 Adam All right. So let's talk about who we just have on here from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

8:06 Drew The woman. Girl.

8:07 James Marsters Amber.

8:08 Adam Oh yeah, Amber. It's the virgin.

8:10 James Marsters Yeah. You made her say vaginal stimulation.

8:14 Drew In front of her mom.

8:15 James Marsters She was quite proud of that though. We gave her enormous amounts of, you know, props.

8:19 Adam She brought her mom in here, which is always a bad idea. I feel. But yeah, so we plugged the hell out of the show. But what show, what episodes coming up this Tuesday? We'll do specific plugging.

8:31 James Marsters This Tuesday is all about me and my feelings and what I'm doing. No, it's, yeah. It's a crossover episode between Buffy and Angel. And we're going back in time, about 120 years to a point where Angel and Spike, Drusilla and Darla all kind of hooked up. Wow. Yeah. And we're going to find out stuff about Spike that no one's known before.

8:54 Adam Really?

8:54 James Marsters Yeah.

8:54 Adam Like me, you don't want to give it away?

8:57 James Marsters No. You know, we'll save the sexual preference. We'll just leave it at that.

9:00 Adam Tune in Tuesday to 8 o'clock on the WB and you'll find out if Spike's gay or not. Speaking of gay, the Man Show, everybody, on right now in the fabulous Comedy Central.

9:10 Drew Have you and Jimmy finally consummated?

9:11 Adam The very first day.

9:12 Drew Is that what that allusion is to?

9:14 Adam Quite down. The best Man Show episode we've ever done on tonight.

9:17 Drew You don't know which one.

9:19 Adam They're all good. I can say that with confidence, Drew. How dare you. Chris, $400 to be quiet for this next call. Chris?

9:28 Yeah.

9:28 Adam You're 27.

9:30 Caller Yes.

9:30 Adam What's up?

9:31 Caller I work for the Department of Corrections up here in Washington and I was walking our tier doing my cell checks the other day and one of our inmates who is what we call a tosser, it means he throws fecal matter or whatever, hit me with a cup of urine and semen mixed in the...

9:48 Drew Hold on one second, Chris.

9:50 Adam That's called a Highland Blizzard. I used to drink those in college. We call it a milk churn. Oh, we call it a milk churn? We call it Highland Blizzard. It's a capful of semen. It was a semen floater, we call it. A nice...

10:00 Drew A boiler maker...

10:02 Adam .fraffy head of urine. Nice.

10:05 Caller Yeah.

10:06 Adam Yeah. The good thing about that is you don't feel it hit you really because it's pretty, you know, it's about body temperature.

10:12 Caller Yeah, but when it drips down your face into your eyes and mouth.

10:14 Drew Oh my god.

10:16 Caller Yeah.

10:17 Drew But now you, Adam, and your peers were tossers. Let's face it. I'm realizing that...

10:22 Adam How dare you? We were flingers. There's a difference.

10:25 Caller Oh, we get flung at too, by the way.

10:26 Drew It's a finesse thing.

10:27 Adam Oh, I see.

10:27 Drew What do you call the flingers?

10:29 Caller Flingers.

10:29 Drew Flingers.

10:30 Caller Tossers. Yeah, you.

10:31 Drew Oh, naturally.

10:31 Adam I see.

10:32 Drew Okay.

10:32 Caller And then there's smears who take one piece of turd and rub it all over their wholesale.

10:36 Adam Really?

10:37 Caller Oh, yeah.

10:38 Adam I like the party, but I like to... When those guys get furloughed, tell me. I'd like to take them out.

10:43 Caller Okay.

10:44 Adam Really? You know, you don't hear that. I mean, you assume this kind of stuff goes on. It makes perfect sense. I would never question it, but you just don't hear that much about it.

10:52 Look for the areas. Fill that space.

10:55 Adam Oh boy. All right. So you were hit.

10:58 Caller Coded. Yeah.

10:59 Adam Coded really got you right in the, right in the pus.

11:02 Caller I had counted the cell next to his and walked to his to make sure he was in there and right smack in the face.

11:07 Adam Oh, and what are they?

11:09 Drew Are they disciplined for that, the guy?

11:10 Caller Oh yeah. They put in the hole. Yeah. Yeah. Instantly.

11:13 Drew Are they, these guys are, are psychiatrically ill? Yeah.

11:16 Caller It's a special offenders unit, guys who were off their meds or well, they're on medication and for whatever reason, refused to take his meds that day or whatever. And normally I don't work that unit, but I was doing overtime and they forgot to tell me that.

11:29 Adam How does a, how does the hole look, by the way? That sounds like a good napping place for me. No windows.

11:35 Caller No windows, solid steel.

11:37 Adam Nice. People can't get to me.

11:39 Caller They, they're locked up 23 hours a day. They get one hour.

11:42 Adam I like this hole.

11:43 Caller Yeah.

11:43 Adam Drew, I like to put one in my new house, a hole. See, I won't, I don't look at it.

11:47 James Marsters You can arrange that. I just like to say the word. Yes.

11:49 Adam I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll adjourn myself to the hole. I'll see you kiddies in the morning. I'll be in the hole. But you know, I would see if I was in the hole, I would not look at it as me not being able to get out. I would look at it as other people not being able to get in.

12:02 Drew Yeah. It's like grandpa monster.

12:03 Adam And then I would laugh.

12:05 Drew Grandpa monster out of the house.

12:06 Adam In the basement.

12:07 Drew Yeah.

12:07 Adam All right. So what could he get, Drew, from this?

12:09 Drew Well, Chris, do you know that these guys, this particular guy has anything?

12:13 Caller We're not allowed to because they have the same rights for medical stuff as...

12:19 Drew Well, now wait a minute. But medical caretakers have a right to know what they've been exposed to.

12:22 Caller Right. And the people in our hospital unit know, but I can't get that information.

12:27 Adam That seems ridiculous.

12:28 Drew Because you're not a medical caretaker, you can't get that?

12:31 Caller I'm a correctional officer, not a medical caretaker.

12:33 Drew Oh my God, that is insane. Is that just in Washington or is that...

12:38 Caller As far as... I don't know about nationwide. I know that's how the system works here.

12:41 Drew Well, are they going to treat you in any way?

12:45 Caller I have, yeah, full medical...

12:47 Drew No, no, but I mean, what's the plan? Have you ever had hepatitis B vaccine?

12:50 Caller Oh, yeah, I've had all the vaccines.

12:51 Drew All the vaccines. So really it's about...

12:53 Adam It's just about AIDS?

12:54 Caller It's about how long do I really need to worry about it?

12:57 Drew Well, six months, you're free and clear, but the question is...

13:03 James Marsters You're not going to get AIDS from that.

13:04 Adam No, the bigger question is, does it make him gay? No, no, no, seriously.

13:09 Caller If all the raping I've seen doesn't make me gay, that sure wouldn't.

13:12 Adam Wow, that's a great gig you got there. You couldn't get a job at a manure farm or something, some place you could enjoy yourself?

13:20 Caller Oh, well.

13:20 Adam Oh, humanity.

13:22 Drew Even Tom Arnold's descriptions of the hog farm sounded better.

13:25 Adam Hey, listen, Chris, I hate people from doing this show. I can't imagine how much you hate humanity.

13:30 Caller Come on up, I'll give you a tour.

13:32 Adam No, listen, I closed my... My whole childhood was like that. I don't need a tour.

13:37 Drew Ryan, I mean, Chris, the question then is, should you be on any antiviral medications?

13:43 Adam No, he's fine.

13:45 Drew We don't know that.

13:46 Adam All right, but listen.

13:47 Drew If this guy were HIV-positive, there's a probability that people might suggest he'd take antiviral medication because there's good evidence that exposure, even high-risk exposure, can be prevented from going on to infection with the proper treatment.

14:01 Adam How would one get it if... Let's say one didn't have any cuts or lesions. Is an eyeball a place it can get in?

14:08 Drew Theoretically.

14:08 Adam They say it's the window to the soul. Does that mean the hiv can get in that way too?

14:12 Drew Yeah, possibly, but it's mostly surfaces where there's blood, direct blood exposure.

14:15 Adam Okay, but don't you think he could say to the personnel in the hospital ward, hey, listen, MFers, I just got hit with a dump truck full of bad goo and if this guy's got the hiv and you don't tell me about it right now, there's gonna be a hairy lawsuit. I'm gonna own this prison. I'll turn it into a car wash.

14:34 James Marsters He just has to trust that the doctors will take action if this guy says so.

14:39 Adam Talk about lawsuit.

14:40 Drew But I think that's the way to handle it. Go to the medical system where his records are known and advise them of the exposure and let them make their decisions.

14:47 Caller All right.

14:47 Adam Ryan?

14:48 Caller Yeah.

14:49 Adam Good question though.

14:50 Drew Yeah.

14:50 Adam You're 17. What's up?

14:52 Caller Two of my friends are having sex unprotected. They've got condoms with them and everything. They just don't believe that they need them because they don't know that there is, well, they don't think that there's any sperm in the pre whatever you want to call it. And yeah, that too. And I hope they're listening. And I just want to see if there's any or not.

15:23 Adam Yes. It's chock full of sperm.

15:25 Drew For some people, it's very highly concentrated in sperm.

15:28 Caller For some people?

15:29 Drew Well, some people don't leak.

15:30 Adam Everyone under 30.

15:31 Drew Yeah. Some people don't leak. And most people have a high degree of sperm in those.

15:35 Caller Yeah. I also had another question. And I guess this would be for both of you guys. I was wondering the side effects of shrooms, what those do. I've never heard anyone say that those things will like screw you up and all that.

15:50 Drew And I think, Ryan, and I actually expect to see the same kinds of problems from mushrooms that we see from LSD and even ecstasy possibly, but I've not seen it. So I can't honestly say that it definitely happens. I think the reason I haven't seen it is that people don't use a lot of mushrooms. They taste like hell. They're grown in house cow pies and they kick the crap out of you. People don't use a lot.

16:13 Adam Look at it this way. You spread cow crap on everything that's grown.

16:18 Drew And you eat?

16:19 Adam Yeah. Broccoli, you know, manure. Manure is everything.

16:22 Drew Yeah, manure is everything.

16:22 Adam Fish guts.

16:23 Drew Yeah, but you don't...

16:24 Adam So there's your logic.

16:25 Drew Yeah, but this is... Thank you. Thank you.

16:27 Adam Who's the genius here?

16:28 Drew This comes with... The cow pie is with the mushroom.

16:30 James Marsters Stand up for the mushroom, Matt.

16:32 Adam Listen, Ryan. Yeah? Here's the big side effect of mushrooms. Your side. It's actually... Your side is the side effect. It hurts from you laughing all night long. And people don't do enough of them. And Drew wishes I'm with Drew. I wish they'd do more, too. But they don't do enough mushrooms for them to get any kind of a definitive answer to this question.

16:52 Drew Yeah.

16:53 Adam Right. But James...

16:54 Drew It can't be good for you.

16:55 Adam Ryan. It's not... I mean, I'm sorry. Ryan, it's not going to make you any smarter. Put it that way. How often do you do mushrooms?

17:01 Caller I don't do them.

17:02 Adam All right. Well, stop asking questions for other people, you idiot. Man, is this guy's interested in this. His friends seem to be having a good time. They're doing drugs, they're getting laid. Ryan's sitting in a folding chair with a steno pad documenting the whole goddamn thing.

17:20 Drew Here we go.

17:20 Adam That's just thinking about me in high school.

17:22 Drew Yeah.

17:22 Adam All right.

17:22 Drew And? That what you did?

17:23 Adam I didn't do a lot.

17:25 Drew You took notes.

17:26 Adam I didn't take notes either. I didn't get laid. I didn't do any drugs. I was honing my napping craft back then. And so it was time well spent. You know what I'm going to say? James, had you begun napping in high school?

17:41 James Marsters Yeah. I'm a big sleeper. I love to sleep.

17:44 Adam I like to think of it this way. When didn't I nap? I think there was a summer between the fourth and fifth grade where I wasn't napping.

17:51 James Marsters There's nothing sweeter than an hour free where you can just lay down on you and your pillow.

17:56 Adam Great.

17:56 James Marsters I love my pillow.

17:57 Adam I know. Calgon, take me away.

17:59 James Marsters I don't have a favorite pillow.

18:00 Drew This is some torture for me tonight. Is that the deal?

18:03 Adam You wish you'd nap today, don't you, Drew?

18:05 Drew I wish I had any kind of sleep.

18:07 Adam Well, Drew, you napped during the show. Kristen?

18:08 Drew That's true.

18:09 Adam You're 16.

18:11 Caller Yeah, Adam, I just want to say that you're a god even though you don't believe in god.

18:16 Adam No, no, I believe myself as a god. That's a different. I'm an atheist only when it comes to other people's gods. Yeah, not myself though.

18:24 Yeah.

18:25 Caller Well, James, I saw you on the Late Late Show on Friday, which I have to say your accents are very good.

18:35 Well, thank you.

18:37 Caller Pretty amazing. I actually wanted to know-

18:40 Adam Wait a minute. Is the Late Late Show the later show?

18:43 Caller It's called Killborn.

18:44 Adam Oh, is that called the Late Late Show? I thought it was just the Late Show. Well, that's the letterman.

18:48 James Marsters That's the letterman.

18:48 Caller Letterman is the Late Show, Killborn is the Late Late Show.

18:50 James Marsters It sounded better than the Very Late Show.

18:52 Adam It's the super, your sleeping show.

18:54 James Marsters You're too late. You're standing up too late.

18:55 Caller Way too late.

18:57 Adam So go ahead. I'm sorry, Kristen.

19:00 Caller The girl made me make up a question. So what do you think of your fan base online?

19:04 James Marsters I think they're actually really cool. I gotta say, I think the people who watch Buffy tend to be drawn toward good writing, frankly. They're not watching some of the other shows that are available. But yeah, they tend to be very gracious. They tend to be very kind. They give me a nice compliment and kind of make me feel good. And that's about it. I don't have a computer. I don't like to get into it that much because it can screw with your head a little bit.

19:28 Adam We could hang. You like napping?

19:30 Drew I've got a guitar.

19:31 James Marsters You don't have a computer?

19:32 Drew You have a computer. You have a very expensive computer. You just don't know how to use it.

19:35 Adam I know.

19:36 Drew Same thing.

19:36 Adam It's a $3,000 coaster, actually, is what it is.

19:39 James Marsters It's not ignorance. I'm just standing up for my right to be NAP uninformed.

19:44 Adam Well, hey, Kristen, you said our screener told you to make up a question. Was that it?

19:49 Caller Basically, I just want to say that if you ever get online, James, to check out jamesmarshers.com without any hyphens or anything, it's the best website for you out there.

20:00 James Marsters Thank you.

20:01 Caller I'm basically plugging the girl who runs it right now.

20:03 James Marsters Yeah, there's a lot of unofficial websites and I think GoTo, man, it's just great. I like the unofficial ones. You can steal those photographs.

20:10 I think it's cool.

20:11 James Marsters What's that?

20:11 Caller You posted on the posting board of buffy.com recently.

20:13 James Marsters Yes. Yes.

20:15 Adam All right. Hey, Kristen.

20:16 Caller Yeah.

20:17 Adam How overweight are you, honey?

20:18 Caller Huh? Oh, I'm only like 120. I don't know. I have to weigh myself, but...

20:22 Drew You're fat.

20:22 Adam Is it three foot tall?

20:24 Caller No, I'm 5'9.

20:24 Adam What's up? Bad skin? What's going on?

20:26 Caller Nothing.

20:27 Adam Why are you camped out in front of the computer so much?

20:30 Caller Nothing. I'm just... I'm home schooled. I'm just...

20:32 Adam Whoa. Oh, oh. Dope.

20:34 Caller We're not religious, though.

20:35 Adam Dope. I know, but that always means crazy mom, that home school thing.

20:39 She's a little crazy, but...

20:40 Adam I replace home and school with crazy and mom. Now, I swear to Christ, if I hear the word home and school, I just... In my mind, crazy, mom. Those are the two words. It's just a quick replacement, right?

20:55 Drew It's certainly been the pattern on this show.

20:57 Adam Crazy mom?

20:58 Drew Yeah.

20:58 I don't live in the same way I live with my dad, though. I'm actually about to graduate.

21:02 Caller I get to graduate two years early because of homeschooling.

21:04 Adam Yeah, sure. Listen, I would have graduated my kids when they were four. Now, go out, hit the pavement, get yourself a job. You've got your degree.

21:13 Caller I'm going to do computer classes and my website.

21:17 Adam Wait a minute. How do you graduate early from homeschooling?

21:20 Caller You take a GED. If you...

21:22 Adam Oh, well, Drew, you could have passed that in the sixth grade.

21:26 Caller If you are homeschooled five years straight, at least I've been homeschooled all my life, then you can take the GED when you're 16 and start college classes when you're 16 too. And so I'm going to do computers.

21:40 Adam Have you...

21:40 James Marsters Okay, well, you're homeschooled. Who was Charles de Gaulle?

21:43 Caller Huh?

21:44 Caller I'm not that...

21:46 Caller Oh my gosh.

21:47 Caller Oh, God.

21:50 Adam Have you seen daylight? Have you been outdoors?

21:53 Caller Yeah, I was just out today.

21:54 Adam Oh, you went outside today for the first time?

21:56 Caller I live in Virginia, so...

21:58 Adam I see. What's wrong with your mom that she homeschooled you?

22:02 Caller Nothing. My parents were just... They didn't like the schools here. They suck.

22:05 Drew What city are you in?

22:06 Caller I'm in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

22:08 Adam Right. And well, everyone knows. They have no school system over there.

22:11 Caller It's over on completely opposite coast, but...

22:14 Adam I see. And how are your parents qualified to be homeschooled teachers?

22:21 Caller I don't know. My dad's a psychology major, and I don't know what my mom is, but...

22:26 Adam Yeah.

22:27 Caller But I guess we basically now we teach ourselves.

22:30 Adam And you get up... Like, what time would you have to be at school when you homeschool?

22:35 Caller Well, I can get up at like 9.30 or 10. And you only have to study for like three or four hours because we don't have all the extra crap that you get at regular school because they just keep you at a babysitter.

22:44 Drew Extra crap like science, math.

22:47 Caller No, extra crap like the PE and all that stuff.

22:50 Adam Well, she didn't have the actor that played LeBeau from Hogan's Heroes give an assembly speech about the Holocaust like I got. So, there's one important facet of schooling she missed out on and probably a lot of ceramic classes I took. She didn't take it home.

23:09 Drew Does not know how to do a coil pod.

23:10 Adam I guess she doesn't. What is it? Why? You're going to, okay, I don't want to freak her out too much, but, honey, we're going to graduate you two years early because mama got a job. It's like, I don't know, like on one hand, I learned nothing in school and it was a complete waste of time. On the other hand, I've learned how to mold other people into the shape I'd like them to be in.

23:37 Drew There would have been no flinging at home.

23:40 Adam No, no.

23:41 James Marsters It's just a great way to start a party. I mean, you know, socializing.

23:45 Adam Right.

23:45 James Marsters How are you gonna make friends and learn how to?

23:47 Adam How are you gonna negotiate? What is life? I mean, what is work? I mean, half of it is the work and then the other half is the networking and who you get along with and who you know and how, you know, that whole sort of social aspect of it, which I gotta believe is hard to learn. All right, let's, James Marsters is here tonight from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. We will take ourselves a little break. Hey, is The Man Show on over there? Turn it on, that television, would you, Ann?

24:15 Caller I wanna watch it.

24:15 Adam I mean, it's during a commercial. We'll just keep talking. Whatever. Yes.

24:19 Caller Yeah?

24:19 Adam I'll have to wait for Ann. Drew, take another call while she's trying to find The Man Show over there, Comedy Central. Nancy, oh, wait a minute.

24:27 Drew Nancy?

24:27 Adam Nancy?

24:29 Drew Nancy?

24:30 Yes.

24:30 Drew All right.

24:31 Adam What's your name?

24:32 Nancy.

24:33 Adam Oh, Nancy. Okay, you're 21? All right. Well, we got to go to The Man Show.

24:37 Caller Best show on television.

24:39 Adam Oh, yes. The best show on television. So say so. Buffy the Vampire.

24:44 James Marsters It's the best night on television.

24:45 Caller That's right.

24:46 James Marsters It's a whole different thing.

24:47 Adam We'll take a quick break.

24:48 Caller We'll be back.

24:51 Caller Loveline, Loveline, we'll be right back.

24:54 Caller This evening, Loveline is brought to you by the Cobalt Lounge and Car Toys. Yeah.

25:16 Caller Now you can easily...

25:21 Adam Yeah, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. James Marsters is our guest tonight. He is Spike the Vampire and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba. No, no, no.

25:36 James Marsters We don't do the frog in the morning. It never really worked out.

25:39 Adam Oh, it didn't work out.

25:40 James Marsters I don't know.

25:40 Adam I lost a lot of money on that, Drew.

25:42 James Marsters What was his name? Yeah. Oh, God. What was his name? Lawrence the Frog.

25:46 Adam Bad Promo McBlomey or something. I can't remember. Remember the dabba dabba dabba dabba?

25:51 Drew Blomey was what you told the producers when they asked you to do the dabba dabba dabba.

25:55 Adam We actually...

25:57 James Marsters You're not gonna go over to the dub?

25:59 Adam We... Well, no, no. What happened was is many, many years ago, Loveline was a syndicated show. The TV show was going to be syndicated by Fox before MTV, like a year before that. It's a long story. We went to some affiliate in Chicago, and it would have been on the WB in Chicago. And we had to do these little commercials for it. And they'd say, hey, watch Loveline on Chicago's WB. And I was saying to the guy, fellas, this is a horrid, horrid, horrid, horrid, horrid, horrid, horrid, horrid idea, this W-W-W-W-W-B. It was brand new at the time. And they were like, we got to do it. And they'd go, now I'd go, is it W-W-W-B, or is it W-W-W-W-B? And they'd go, no, it's W-W-W-W-W-W-B. And then like some guy, like Charm and Affiliate, it's two extra dubbas in there.

26:55 James Marsters No, it's not three dubbas, that's ridiculous.

26:56 Drew No, I remember them putting up a card, remember the number of dubbas?

27:00 Adam It'd be six dubbas, but a good beat in between the fourth and fifth dubba. And I was like, this is dubba retarded? And I was saying, Drew, and I wish everyone would just listen to me, and you big pussy, you never backed me up on any of these things.

27:13 Drew Back then, I didn't know you were such a genius.

27:15 Adam You didn't know I was a genius. Be real.

27:16 Drew You were not a millionaire.

27:17 Adam Because I, literally, I was not literally a millionaire. But we yelled, I yelled at publicists when we were doing something called media training, when you had to learn to talk to the media, as a retarded and a waste of time.

27:31 James Marsters What did they tell you in a class?

27:33 Adam Oh my God, they have stuff called media training where you learn how to answer questions. This is not kids calling in, young adults calling in. Never say kids, never say kids, say young adults. And Drew, so help me Christ, I stood up and I said this is a big waste of all our time.

27:49 Drew No, no, be fair now, what you did was we were doing these little test sessions on camera.

27:54 Adam Before that.

27:55 Drew And the guy says, how do you feel about being attacked for having a difficult contact on your show? And I go, how do I feel? You want to know how I feel? And what did you say? I can't remember. He told me to kiss you.

28:08 Adam I can use the S word, give an S or something. Well, I knew it was a waste of time. Even though I had been out of construction for a week, I said, this is a waste of time, all you idiots.

28:20 James Marsters What a boring radio show if you had taken their advice.

28:22 Adam Can you imagine? This was for the TV. This is when the TV was going to be on the syndicated circuit. But anyway, there's many a bad idea of Smelt coming down the pike. Drew has never backed me up on any of them. I've always just been left floating out in the wind on these things and looking like an idiot.

28:39 Drew I mean, Adam, you need a brain vacation.

28:41 Adam How dare you? That was another horrible. Oh, my God. All the horrible ideas. And you see, here's the thing, everybody. I had never done a TV show before. I'd barely done a radio show. I was barely doing anything. So I was sitting with people who had a collective 250 years TV experience around a boardroom table, trying to tell them this was a horrible idea. And I was like the guy who just got off the bus and Drew would not back me up one iota.

29:08 Drew I had just been off the bus with you.

29:09 Adam I know, but you got no guts, man. You got no instinct. I said to those people at the Nyman, Cafferalli and Blow Me that the asshole of, oh, please screw them. They do nothing. Those bottom feeding leech publicists, please. All you, you're wretched, horrible people. All of you. I told all those idiots.

29:31 James Marsters Except for my publicist who got me this gig tonight, which I loved dearly.

29:33 Adam They're wonderful, but I told them this was a colossal waste of time when we did it on a Saturday. And I want my life back. They owe me four hours for wasting my time. Media training. This is what you guys get when you sit home and watch entertainment tonight. A bunch of crap that has been passed through a media sieve by a bunch of idiots who call themselves.

30:25 I had my first outbreak of herpes over a year and a half ago and I haven't had a recurrence since then.

30:30 Drew Genital herpes?

30:31 Yes, genital herpes. I had simplex too and I wanted to know-

30:35 Adam How's the kickboxing going? I've seen the commercials where everyone's kickboxing with these genital herpes.

30:40 Drew That's for the medication for genital herpes, remember?

30:43 Adam Oh, it doesn't force you to kickbox when you get that?

30:45 Drew No, you've got to have a prescription for the medication.

30:48 Adam Then you start kickboxing.

30:50 Drew Nancy, how do you know it was type 2?

30:53 I was tested and my doctor told me.

30:55 Drew So they did a viral culture?

30:57 Uh-huh, they did a viral culture. And I hadn't had a reoccurrence for over a year and a half.

31:03 Drew You had some reoccurrences and then they stopped?

31:06 Well, I had them probably a couple of months after my first outbreak.

31:10 Adam How many types are there? One and two.

31:13 Drew Well, this type. There's some other types.

31:15 Adam Type 2 worse than type 1?

31:16 Drew It's more, yeah.

31:17 Adam What's the difference? Just more?

31:19 Drew Type 2 is more in tans, causes meningitis sometimes.

31:22 Adam So if type 1, you'd say you'd be doing some kickboxing or some Thai bow, type 2 might be some Thai or shoot fighting or actual like cage fighting.

31:31 Drew Type 2, you know, type 2 is the kickbox. Type 1 is you're doing like floor acrobatics.

31:36 Adam Like aerobicized type stuff. Right.

31:38 Yeah. What I wanted to know was as far as oral sex goes, in that such a long period of time, how...

31:46 Drew Wait, you had it in your mouth also?

31:48 No, I didn't.

31:49 Drew Okay. The virus is produced at the site of the sores. That's where the viral particles actually come out of your skin.

31:57 Adam Yeah. It's like those cleaning places that say the plant is on the premises.

32:01 Drew At least that's where the high concentration of the virus is. Because there's some emitted prior to that in the region of the initial infection.

32:06 Okay. But as far as like after not having it for so long, I mean, are your chances of giving...

32:13 Drew If you have sex again?

32:15 Sometimes sex......of giving, of having oral sex performed on you for my partner.

32:20 Drew Ah, Gary Transmitted.

32:21 What's the chances of them getting that if I haven't had any reoccurring symptoms?

32:24 Drew Pretty low if you don't have any symptoms.

32:27 For that long of a period?

32:28 Drew Yeah, it's pretty low.

32:29 Adam Yeah, Drew doesn't know. But you're fine. No one knows.

32:32 Drew But it's pretty low.

32:34 Adam God and your gynecologist knows.

32:35 Drew It's fairly unusual.

32:37 Okay.

32:38 Adam You're fine.

32:38 Alright, thank you.

32:39 Adam You have some sex. Alright, enjoy. And I was thinking about, you know, it's dry cleaning places, it's always these big letters with the plant on premises.

32:49 Drew Yeah, what is that thing?

32:49 Adam You ever see that, Drew? Yeah. It's like, what they're saying is...

32:53 Drew They do it there.

32:54 Adam We do it there. But I'm thinking, I don't care where you do it. I always think to myself, it's not like my shirt doesn't... My shirt cannot be transported, I'm driving it here.

33:03 Drew And this is related to the herpes question.

33:04 Adam I don't know, I was just thinking about that. It's not a big selling point.

33:07 Drew Thanks for bringing it up, that's nice.

33:09 James Marsters That's nice to know that the really horrible chemicals are right there.

33:12 Drew Any other random thoughts you'd like to share with us? Anything about fast food? Yeah, that nap didn't just make you groggy, it made you grandiose.

33:19 Adam It freed my mind.

33:20 Drew Yes.

33:22 Adam Brother, Will?

33:24 Yeah?

33:24 Adam You're 16.

33:26 Caller Yeah, first of all I wanted to say, Adam, you're my idol.

33:30 Adam That's right, thank you.

33:35 Caller My mom is a lesbian and she's been one since I was like 10 and recently I've like said some things, you know, to her that were really, you know, hurt her feelings.

33:48 Drew Why?

33:51 Caller I don't know. I just...

33:53 Drew What are you angry with her about?

33:55 Caller I don't know, I'm not really angry with her. It's just I guess I was kind of using it as kind of like, you know, to hurt her. Why?

34:03 Drew Why do you want to hurt her?

34:05 Caller I don't know.

34:06 Drew Well, somebody your age usually would be kind of angry or there's some reason you'd want to hurt her. Was she just, you know, hey mom, what's for breakfast? And by the way?

34:13 Adam No, no, it was out on the driving range. She told her she wasn't keeping her head down, wasn't falling through to the proper rotation of the hip. Yeah, it really crushed her. What'd you tell her, Will?

34:25 Caller Well, I was leaving for school the other morning and she was yelling at me and I told her to, you know, go lick her girlfriend.

34:32 Drew Nice. Oh, that's nice.

34:34 Adam Well, listen, you are kind of asking for it when you tell your teenage son you're a lesbian. I mean, in terms of sort of opening the floodgates for insults. Well, yeah, she shouldn't have told you.

34:44 Drew How did she react to that?

34:46 Caller How did I?

34:46 Drew How did she react to that?

34:48 Caller Oh, I don't know. I guess she went inside and when I got home, she was really upset. I just wanted to know if there was anything I could do to let her know that I love her.

35:00 Drew How about tell her that?

35:01 Caller I do. She's still mad at me. She's always mad at me.

35:06 Adam How's her girlfriend doing? She have one?

35:09 Caller Yes, she does.

35:10 Adam She does. You get along with her?

35:11 Drew No, wait a minute. Let's zero in on this.

35:13 Adam Hold on. I'm curious about the girlfriend. You get along with the girlfriend?

35:18 Caller Sometimes.

35:19 Adam Is she all right, lady?

35:20 Caller Yeah, she's nice. She's a butch.

35:23 Adam She's butch?

35:24 Caller Yeah.

35:25 Adam Well, listen, you don't know. Let me explain the lesbians. One of them has to be the dude. Yeah. Thank God your mom isn't the dude. It could be worse.

35:34 James Marsters Yeah, and don't mess with lesbians because they will kick your ass.

35:37 Adam Yeah, especially the butch one. How do you know she's the butch one?

35:42 Caller Because she's like six foot three. No. No, she dresses like a man. Yeah. She always wears tennis shoes. She doesn't carry a purse. All right. Listen. She lays tile for a living. She does a man's job and strength is involved.

35:57 Adam Right. She's a tile setter, huh?

36:00 Caller Yeah.

36:01 Adam What's your mom do?

36:02 Caller My mom's unemployed. Her ex-husband, my stepdad is running from the IRS and it all comes on her.

36:11 Adam All right. All right. So, Will, first off, don't smoke pot. You'll freak out. You understand? You'll be thinking about the lesbian mom and the butch step mom and the tile setting and you'll go and say. So, you sound relatively intact.

36:27 Drew Well, this is what I want to focus on. He clearly has a very connected relationship with mom, but she's angry all the time right now. Why do you think she's angry all the time?

36:37 Caller Probably because I'm not doing good in school.

36:40 Drew Why don't you do a little better? She's worried about you, right?

36:43 Caller I just want to apply myself, I guess.

36:45 Drew Yeah, but are you depressed?

36:46 Adam Well, maybe you're dumb.

36:48 Drew No.

36:48 Adam Why not? I was dumb.

36:50 Drew Yes. Are you depressed?

36:54 Caller I don't know. I just.

36:57 Adam That says depressed.

36:59 Drew It sounds like you're dealing with a lot of stuff. Why don't you, listen, you love your mom. You want to tell her that, but why don't you tell her you've just not been feeling right lately and maybe you guys can get an evaluation, maybe get something that can help you so you can start sort of getting off the dime a little bit again.

37:12 Adam I bet, listen, well you don't have to figure out a gift, what to put in a gift basket. You just tell her you love her sincerely and see if you can bury the hatchet a little with her.

37:21 Drew But let her know that when you're irritable and angry, feel worthless, those are all signs of depression.

37:26 Adam Yeah.

37:27 Drew And it's her job. Here's where she can help you is to get you some care and she doesn't have to fix you and she doesn't have to be frustrated with the fact that you can't do your work because it's a problem here and needs to be treated.

37:38 Adam All right. Oh, boy. Big old butch girlfriend coming home with a wet dog.

37:43 James Marsters Yeah, but you can't say go lick your girlfriend. It's like saying go lick your boyfriend. You can't say that to your mom, man.

37:48 Drew Of course you're going to get it for that.

37:50 Adam No, but it doesn't work like, Drew, your parents are still together, right? You couldn't go blow dad.

37:54 Drew No. But Will's like, got a crossbow. He's just like firing it off, right? He's just, pow.

38:00 Adam Yeah. I mean, you got to give him some points for pulling a sort of lesbian-specific slight out of his hat on the way out the door. I give the guy credit for that.

38:11 Drew You know what we like about it, and I hate to use the word like to something like that, is that it's so honest that it suggests, I mean, that he feels as though he can be himself and say whatever is on his mind about how egregious to his mom. And then he turns right around and says, oh, you know what? I really love my mom and I want to regain that connection. I mean, that's the sort of a real range of feelings that are sort of extraordinary and he needs help. He's depressed and he can't contain those feelings right now.

38:35 Adam All right. Well, speaking of range of feelings, we're going to take a range of a break. See, that's a good...

38:39 Drew That's Segway. That's called Segway. Right. It's some sort of fart.

38:43 Adam No, no gas. No gas tonight. Bad last night though.

38:46 Drew Nice.

38:47 Adam And with the quilt, the extra quilt on the blanket with the cold weather, the heater going, really kicks it in.

38:54 James Marsters No fiber in the wintertime.

38:55 Adam Really kicks it in. Way to the holidays roll around. All that pumpkin pie. I know.

39:00 Drew I thought to myself...

39:01 Adam Stuffing.

39:01 Drew That's great. I thought to myself, we get Thursday night off Thanksgiving.

39:05 Adam Yeah, we do. Farting is a warm weather sport.

39:06 Drew Yeah? But it's going to be three or four nights of cranberries.

39:10 Adam A cranberry conversation?

39:12 Drew And it seems like...

39:12 Adam Oh my God, you're right. When is Thanksgiving?

39:15 Drew I mean, it seems like we just had... We just had our last cranberry diatribe, it seemed like.

39:20 Adam Yes, I have to go on my cranberry...

39:23 Drew cranberry jack.

39:24 James Marsters For juicing and cereal, cranberries, what the hell? Why did we cultivate this?

39:27 Drew No, no, no, no, no, stop. James, please, James, stop.

39:30 Caller You're a cranberry guy, that's okay.

39:31 Adam I like cranberries. I don't like canned cranberries. We'll be right back. I will get into that.

39:38 Drew Next week, around Thanksgiving.

39:39 Adam Here's the deal, I don't want to shoot my cranberry load this early in the week. We're not quite close enough, but I will give people my recipe. I have a sack of cranberries in my refrigerator from last year because I hoard cranberries because they go. Oh, yes, they get bought up. They really do, and you can't get them. Before you know it, you're scoring cranberries at the park from some black guys, 110 pounds and seven feet tall. He's got the shakes. He's doing anything to sell you those cranberries. I'm going to start hoarding, and I suggest to everyone, well, I'm going to get more. I'm going to make my own cranberries. I'm bringing some in.

40:23 James Marsters What do you propose to do with these berries?

40:24 Drew No, no. Oh, no. Sorry, sorry.

40:27 Adam Let me tell you something, James. We've got to go to break.

40:29 Caller We'll be right back.

40:30 Adam How dare you, Anderson? Let me tell you this. I will bring my own cranberry sauce to Thanksgiving festivities so I do not have to eat that crampy canned crap like the trailer trash. It is my family, and if they take offense to it, I say, how dare you? How dare me? How dare you for opening a can during this sacred holiday?

40:50 Drew In front of a literal millionaire?

40:52 Adam Yes. How dare you open a can in front of a literal millionaire? You realize I could have cut my velvet tongue on that can? We'll take a break.

41:03 Caller Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-1-9-1, we'll be right back.

41:07 Caller Hey monkey boy, you're livin the Loveline right here.

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41:24 Caller This is the show known as Loveline, with your hosts, Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

41:43 Adam All right, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. James Marsters is our guest tonight. Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Tuesday nights, WB, eight o'clock. We had a little discussion about what is brine. Pickled brine.

42:01 James Marsters I hear the word brine, I think bile right away, which is not good.

42:04 Adam Brine is the other stuff that's in the jar that pickles in pig's feet and pickled eggs are in and all that kind of stuff. And for some reason that's brine. James seems to think it's saltwater.

42:17 James Marsters Something like saltwater.

42:18 Adam And I tend to agree with him, but I...

42:20 James Marsters It's gotta have a vinegar or something.

42:22 Adam Yes, Drew doesn't have a good angle on brine though. So somebody get to the bottom of that and get back to us. And yes, Drew, let's not let me forget.

42:29 Drew Briny sea.

42:30 Adam Let's... Well, it probably means saltwater, but you wouldn't use the ocean water for brine.

42:36 Drew Dictionary. How dare you?

42:38 Adam How dare you? Where is the dictionary?

42:41 Drew The red... It's a big, thick red book.

42:43 Adam Like is ate it. Where is it? All right, do I have to get up?

42:46 James Marsters I'm in crying, vibrator...

42:48 Adam Hold on. Cover me, Drew.

42:51 Drew I think I know that. Let's go to some calls here. This is Maria, who's 23.

42:54 Caller Thank you.

42:55 Caller Hi.

42:55 Drew Hi, Maria.

42:56 Caller How you doing?

42:56 Caller I'm good.

42:58 Caller I had a question.

42:59 Caller I just wanted to know if it was normal.

43:01 Caller I've been married for a year and me and my husband don't have sex a lot.

43:04 Caller I mean, I'm not into it. Like, I don't...

43:10 Adam What are you good for?

43:12 Caller What do you mean?

43:13 Adam How often does he want to have sex a week?

43:16 Caller If it was up to him every day.

43:18 Adam And how often would you like to have sex?

43:24 Caller I don't know, like once a month sometimes.

43:26 Adam Right.

43:27 Drew Basically, not at all. Not at all, right?

43:29 Adam Yes. And is it something about him that's slowing you down or you think it's you?

43:34 Caller I think it's me.

43:36 Adam Drew, have you found the definition of Brian?

43:38 Drew Well, Brian Shrimp, I'm seeing here, and that's where I got the shellfish thing, I'm realizing.

43:42 Adam Okay. Sorry, Marie, go ahead.

43:44 Caller Yeah, I think it's me. Why? Well, ever since I was little, my mom always told me the sex was bad and this and that.

43:52 Drew Hang on a second. Water saturated or strongly impregnated with common salt. The water of a sea or a lake. Remember I said seawater?

44:00 Caller Right.

44:00 James Marsters No mention of vinegar.

44:02 Adam Okay. So everyone's right but true.

44:05 Caller Maria?

44:06 Adam Uh-huh. You have a cooking question?

44:08 No.

44:10 Drew So Maria, we understand that your parents gave a lot of negative stuff about sexuality but it sounds like maybe something worse happened than that.

44:16 Adam Yeah.

44:16 Drew That maybe in addition to that has some heavier feelings about men for some reason.

44:20 Adam Most people whose parents tell them sex is bad end up having tons of sex.

44:24 Drew Have more sex.

44:24 Adam And enjoying it more.

44:27 Caller But after when we do have sex, I feel really, really guilty.

44:31 Drew Yeah, but you're not zeroing in on the real issue there. What, what about men?

44:38 Caller I mean, I was like when I was in high school and I always had a boyfriend, I didn't lose my return in it until I was 19.

44:45 Adam What are you? Is your mom Catholic?

44:47 Caller Uh, she, we, um, we were, but we're not more.

44:52 Adam You're Jews now?

44:53 Caller No, we're Mormons.

44:55 Drew Pagans.

44:55 Adam Mormons?

44:56 Caller Yeah.

44:56 Adam Oh, Christ. From the frying pan into the fire, everybody. And, uh, where is your dad around?

45:02 Caller Yeah.

45:03 Adam Is he a good guy?

45:04 Caller Yes, he is.

45:04 Adam Is he an alcoholic?

45:05 Caller No.

45:06 Adam He ever sexually abuse you?

45:08 Caller No.

45:08 Adam You ever get raped?

45:09 Caller Yeah.

45:10 Drew How old were you?

45:11 Caller I was, uh, almost 20.

45:16 Adam Anything before that?

45:17 Drew No. Were you physically, did the parents strike you when you were growing up?

45:22 Caller Um, no.

45:24 Drew What do you mean, uh, uh, no? Well, that's not, uh, Adam.

45:28 Caller I mean.

45:28 Adam Well, when you were bad, right?

45:30 Caller Yeah.

45:30 Adam Sure.

45:30 Caller I mean, not like, just because.

45:33 Drew Maria.

45:33 Adam So you're saying when you were sleeping, they didn't come up and beat you?

45:37 Caller No.

45:37 Adam They had to do something bad?

45:39 Caller Yeah.

45:39 Adam And then you got a beating?

45:40 Caller Yes.

45:41 Adam All right. And who raped you?

45:43 Caller Um, well, I went to Mexico for vacation.

45:46 Adam Not enough said.

45:48 Drew But wait a minute. Now, would they hit you with objects?

45:51 Adam Oh, by the way, this is our second night in a row of going to Mexico on a vacation rape story.

45:56 Drew Yeah.

45:56 Adam Yeah.

45:58 Drew She hit you with her hand?

45:58 Caller Yeah.

45:59 Drew Well, that's not good.

46:01 Caller But that's about it.

46:03 Drew That's not good. Okay. That's sometimes enough to cause some pretty wild behaviors in young people. But this isn't really that story either yet.

46:12 Adam All right. So listen, Maria, you like your husband. He doesn't beat on you. He doesn't drink. He's a good guy. He's an abusive guy. Great guy.

46:19 Caller Yes.

46:19 Adam Why don't you throw a little sexist way?

46:22 Caller Okay.

46:23 Drew It's your husband. Wait, wait. I'm sure.

46:24 Adam No. Listen to me.

46:25 Drew Hang on a second.

46:26 Adam How dare you question my questionosity? Here's what you do. We've talked about this before. You can change your behaviors by just doing the behavior. You don't have any big obstacles in your way. You're a little bit freaked out. And the further you get away from it, the further you'll get next time. And that didn't make any sense. But you know what I mean? You become sort of dormant.

46:49 Drew You're awake tonight, Adam. Just face it.

46:51 Adam No, I'm not. What I'm saying is, let's not dissect it. Dissect it until there's nothing left.

46:56 James Marsters Just bring it back on the horse.

46:58 Adam Go get it.

46:58 Drew Here's the deal.

46:59 Adam Get on that horse.

47:00 Drew They didn't so much tell you that sex was bad, but that sex outside of marriage was bad, right?

47:04 Caller Right.

47:05 Drew And you're married now. So that's not bad anymore, right?

47:12 Caller Yeah. OK.

47:12 Adam Drew, aren't you glad we got her back for another breathtaking 30 seconds with the auctioneer, Maria? Just lie down and open your legs and let your husband get on there for a few minutes. It's fine. You're married. Hold still. You don't have to love.

47:29 James Marsters She's got to enjoy it.

47:31 Caller No, you don't.

47:32 Adam Listen.

47:33 James Marsters She deserves that.

47:34 Adam Let me tell you something. You don't have to enjoy anything in life. You go to work. You don't have to like that.

47:39 Drew Let's take another call.

47:39 Adam Why do we have to love everything? Just start doing it. Stop loving everything, everybody.

47:43 Drew James, have you not learned yet that when he says weird stuff like that, just let it go.

47:47 Adam Let me tell you this. We're under the impression now as a society, I don't think we were 50 years ago, that we must be in love with everything in order to do it. Hey, I got a job. It's gratifying. It's fulfilling. I love it. I love this and I love that. I got an SUV and I'm going to Extreme Mountain. I'm camping next week because I love that. I'm going to Paris. Stop loving everything. Just hold still. Let someone love on you for a while. You don't have to love everything. Thank you. Get back on the couch. Is this another Maria?

48:16 Drew Yeah.

48:17 Adam Yes. Get back on the couch. Get off that goddamn mountain bike and get back on the couch.

48:21 James Marsters Watch your commercials like you're supposed to.

48:23 Adam That's right.

48:24 Drew Anthony.

48:26 Caller Hey. Hey.

48:28 First of all, I want to say, Drew, you are totally underrated. People do not give you enough credit.

48:35 Drew Oh, it's kind of a backhand of comments about.

48:37 Adam Quite the contrary.

48:39 And Anderson is a technical genius. He cracks me up all the time.

48:44 Drew Anthony is a man for the underdog.

48:46 Yeah.

48:47 Adam You're a virgin, Anthony?

48:49 Drew Yeah.

48:49 Adam Shocking.

48:51 Shocking.

48:53 Adam He's given Anderson kudos.

48:58 You're just a genius.

48:59 Adam Thank you. Now, hold on. We got to go to break. Take a break with that. Let's see. What happens to him? What? What about his penis here, Drew?

49:07 Drew No sperm comes out.

49:08 Adam Nothing comes out.

49:09 Drew No semen comes out. Okay.

49:10 Adam Drew, let me ask you something, speaking of genius. Once every 100th caller, I make the junior college call.

49:18 Drew Yes.

49:18 Adam And once every 400th caller, I make the virgin call for the male.

49:22 Drew And once every 250th, you call the job.

49:25 Adam And I call their job. Am I ever wrong with the virgin?

49:28 Drew No.

49:28 Adam Or the junior college? When I hear a goofy voice on a guy praising Drew and Engineer Anderson, I know Virgin. I know there's a guy who's a beaten as a baloney.

49:38 James Marsters Was it praising Drew or Anderson that really flagged it?

49:40 Adam Anderson, actually, because I got a little that techie.

49:43 You are an asshole.

49:46 Adam All right. James Marsters is our guest tonight above the vampires. We'll take a quick break and get back with the Virgin Anthony after this.

49:54 Caller Loveline. Loveline.

49:55 Caller 1-800-LOVE-191.

49:58 Caller We'll be right back.

50:00 Caller Right now, you're enjoying Loveline on the only station that really matters.

50:06 Caller Well, hell yeah!

50:18 Drew Hey, it's Loveline, we're here with James Marsters from Buffy the Lamp Vampire Slayer. Get in the room with your figure of gas, Adam. I didn't know you were going to fart in the middle of...

50:27 Caller I didn't either until the music started.

50:28 James Marsters I thought that was not Anderson.

50:30 Adam I thought I had a little fart going there, yeah. That's good radio, Drew, and I can time the fart right...

50:37 James Marsters I think I'm playing rhythm music.

50:39 Caller Yeah, that's fine. He's just a good...

50:41 Adam I was... we were talking... Yeah, James Marsters is here.

50:45 Drew We were studying some autographs the other day. A girl comes up and goes, Adam, nice farts. And I thought to myself, people are listening to you when you just blow gas. Aren't you slightly embarrassed?

50:56 Adam You know, I should be. I really should be, but you know what? My job is to step aside and get outside of myself and entertain, Drew, whether... whichever orifice I use, whether it's the mouth, the anus, it's to entertain. I'm an entertainer.

51:11 James Marsters Yeah, but still there's dignity.

51:12 Adam It's the fear and shaking my ass. These are the things that I make my living from. That's right. That's right. I entertain. You understand, Drew? Yeah, I just understand. Okay, so I don't worry. I don't sit and examine every word that comes out like you do, Drew.

51:30 James Marsters Yeah, this is the power of the media, though. Anybody farting normally would not be quite so cool, but you can.

51:35 Adam That's right.

51:36 James Marsters Shicks come up first. Thank you for that.

51:38 Adam She didn't say thank you so much, but...

51:40 Drew Nice. She did. She admired it.

51:43 Adam She did appreciate it. And that was one of our... I'll tell you, you get more feedback from the Big Fart Show. That was your birthday. It was a birthday show. We did it from out in the hall, sitting on a trash can.

51:53 Drew That was nice.

51:54 Adam Right, because Drew had to go in the hall. It was so bad. But, you know, I didn't want to say...

51:58 Drew It was bad.

51:59 Adam Yeah.

52:00 Drew Oh, yeah.

52:00 Adam This is farting weather. You know, we touched on it a little earlier, and I'll tell you why it's farting weather. First off, you're wearing clothing that is sort of conducive to farting with, like, sweatpants or thick...

52:15 James Marsters Thinking that you could get away with it.

52:16 Adam Thick things. Well, you're driving with the windows rolled up and the heater on. I mean, that's it. I mean, think about the difference between breaking wind in a car with the sunroof open and the windows down and the air conditioning on or the heater going, defrosters going, and all the windows rolled up. I mean, that is night and day.

52:34 Drew But somehow that brisk, cold air can neutralize it, and I say, well, on a hot day, you're already miserable, and then you're blasted.

52:40 Adam That's true, but who's rolling the windows down? I lock the windows in my car. My partner Jimmy not only locks the windows, but he locks the doors, because I tried to open his car door when I couldn't get the window open on the freeway. It's wonderful. Now, when you're at home, you got the heat going, you got the windows closed, and you got that big down comforter over you, and it's tucked in on your feet.

53:01 Drew See, that's the thing that tempts you to do it.

53:03 James Marsters But then it's just-

53:04 Adam You're like a fart burrito.

53:05 Drew This is what tossers and flingers become preoccupied. Flingers, as they grow older, and tossers, when they're on their meds, talk like this.

53:12 James Marsters I was wondering, do the tossers live down on the flingers, or vice versa, or do they-

53:16 Adam Let me tell you something.

53:16 James Marsters You're sick.

53:18 Adam As a flinger, I could kick any tosser's ass.

53:21 James Marsters Tossers, they're weird.

53:22 Adam Yeah, I mean, when you're a flinger, you're a flinger for life, right? You get the jacket, you get the colors, the initiation. I don't want to even tell you what that is. Oh, boy. Anthony?

53:34 Now, this is wonderful.

53:36 Hey, I saw that guy on TV tonight.

53:38 Adam Oh, thank you.

53:39 Dude, he was as bad as you say he is. I thought you were exaggerating. No. You weren't one bit. He's that bad. He was just walking around like interviewing random people off the street for no reason.

53:50 Adam Yeah. You know what I love about Dr. Drew? He has been on television in Los Angeles for 37 years every night for 37 years. Drew has lived in Pasadena for 42 years and has never heard of Hewell Hauser, never seen him and has no idea who he is. That is the beauty of Dr. Drew, everybody.

54:10 He was on the street like two blocks from my house and I had never heard of him.

54:14 Caller My mom was like, Oh, that is Hewell Hauser.

54:16 Drew Alright, what is going on?

54:17 Alright, when I masturbate, I barely come at all and I was wondering if that would give me problems later on.

54:31 Drew No, that is fine, but I imagine it is because you are Yeah, see if you can slow it down to five times a day. Exactly.

54:37 No, it is not even that much. I like it once a day. Well, maybe.

54:43 Adam Listen, Anthony, you are never going to be with a woman, so what are you worried about?

54:47 Caller Okay, I have gotten blow jobs.

54:50 Adam Oh, with the S word. Really? Even nerds are getting blown now. Do you understand the significance of that?

54:59 Drew The global significance.

55:00 Adam When I was in high school, yes, when I was in high school, only the upper echelon of the coolest of the cool dudes got the BJs. Yeah. And the guys who got the BJs were even ahead of those who got sex.

55:12 Drew Right. Oh, totally. That was deviant. That was deviant.

55:15 Adam Right. Meaning, there was always some nerdy guy who was dating some nerdy girl and they had been together for four and a half years and he was getting sex, but then there was the guys getting the BJs on the first and second date. I was not one of these guys, but I didn't know a guy who knew one of these guys who was getting blown. So, as you can see, I was on the inside in a way myself.

55:38 James Marsters It's pure football. That's what gets it.

55:40 Adam This guy is getting a no. I think his dog did it.

55:47 Drew Kyle.

55:48 Adam Oh, Kyle?

55:49 Caller Yep.

55:50 James Marsters Kyle, have you just been watching porn and you have a higher expectation of yourself?

55:54 Drew No, no. It's a different color.

55:55 Caller Different color.

55:55 Adam The other guy, Anthony, hung up.

55:57 Caller Sorry.

55:57 Drew Kyle, what's up?

55:59 Caller Hey, I have some information on the brine for you. Thanks.

56:01 Adam Well, we did settle it, but go ahead.

56:03 Caller Oh, you settled it? No, no. Go, go. I didn't hear that part. It's a mixture of salt, water, and then some sort of acidity, like a vinegar.

56:12 Caller Oh.

56:13 Caller And then some sort of spices, tickling spices. It just comes from kind of ancient times before they had refrigeration, things to do to preserve meats and vegetables so they can carry them through the winter.

56:25 Caller Right.

56:26 Adam Thank you.

56:27 Drew When they talk about salting meats, is that what they're talking about?

56:29 Caller No.

56:29 Caller They're talking about it. Every culture has its own variation. Japanese culture pressed the fish in between layers of vinegar and rice, and that's where sushi came from. Every culture has its own little different take on it.

56:40 Adam Well, hold on a second. Now, the salting meat is like more the jerky, pemmican, drying the meat to last the winter kind of thing. The brine is actually, it's submerging it in something.

56:52 James Marsters Yeah, so we don't have to waste those pig's feet. You know, they don't want to go bad on you.

56:57 Drew How do you eat a pig's feet? You can pick it up and chew on it like a popsicle, you know.

57:01 Adam First thing you need to do is take the rope you're using to hold up your pants and tie that around the bottom end so you can get a good grasp on the pig's foot. Oh, who knows? You just, it's, I don't know who eats pig's feet. I think black people and the whitest of the white trash is really the spectrum, no one in between. It's to be a lino trash or black. Oh yeah, oh yeah, and oh yeah, foreigners, all bets are off at the, yeah, the Europeans. Kyle?

57:29 Caller Yeah?

57:29 Adam What else do we have a question remember about? What do you know about that? Drew wants to know about salting the meat.

57:35 Caller Salting the meat, what the salt does is it draws moisture out of anything that you pack it on top of. So if you put it on meat or vegetables and everything, what it will do is it will draw out all the moisture so that the moisture is what carries the bacteria and allows things to break down, prevents that from happening. Same kind of thing that you re doing with the brine is that you re pulling, drawing all the moisture out of it, you re keeping it on the outside so it s what they call anaerobic so you don t have any of the anaerobic microorganisms that can cause like bacteria without the oxygen.

58:06 Drew The putrefying bacteria.

58:07 Caller Right.

58:08 Adam Kyle, you work for Petridge Farms or Hillshire Farms or something?

58:13 Caller I teach at a culinary school. I m a chef at a culinary school.

58:16 Adam I see. Let me ask you a question. It s sort of related. Why do those chefs get so much pun tang? How does that work? Who decided they were celebrities?

58:26 Caller Well, because we re sick bastards.

58:27 Caller In the front of the house, guys, the waiters, they re all pretty boys. Back in the kitchen, you know, we re just slinging pans around.

58:34 Adam That s what I m saying. Who decided that these guys were sex symbols?

58:38 Caller I don t know.

58:39 Caller I m glad they did. Finally.

58:40 Adam Thanks, Kyle.

58:41 James Marsters Well, you know they re good at something.

58:43 Caller Yeah.

58:44 Adam Kyle, you have any recipes for cranberry sauce while we re here? Yeah. Oh yeah.

58:49 Drew All right.

58:49 Adam I m going to need you. We re going to give you the number here because you have to call back in a week and a half or something when I give you the recipe.

58:54 Drew Are you as offended about cranberry sauce as Adam is?

58:57 Caller I was just listening to that and that gel that comes in the can, even though it s good with the leftovers, that s like the white trash.

59:04 Adam Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, people opening cans on Thanksgiving. Are you going to give him the number? Have Ann do it? Yes. Ann, we re getting back because we ll have to trade some cranberry sauce secrets as we get a little bit. My Aunt Pat likes to leave it in the shape of the can. You can actually see the serrations from the side of the can.

59:27 James Marsters Cool that way.

59:28 Drew Get it all in one big blob.

59:29 Adam Proudly displayed.

59:31 James Marsters Or half of it will be cut into little disks.

59:33 Adam Yeah, there you go. Yeah, we pre-cut some disks. We didn't go ahead and cut the entire thing in case people don't get to that part of the disk. We'll have some for next year. We'll have a nice block for next year. My aunt Pat is one of these people that has the plastic container for the cardboard milk carton. Have you ever seen these things? One of those people with a thousand of those little change purses and stuff. She has a thing. It is square. It is for half gallon cardboard milk cartons. It has a hole in the top and a handle built on it. A little bottom tray where the handle is attached to. You drop it in there. She's had that thing for 32 years. Now when I go over there, I see where it's been repaired. I think to myself, okay, one of us is killing ourselves. I think to myself each Thanksgiving. I do not come from this family. You got 49 cents worth of milk. First off, how many times you had trouble handling the gallon milk in town? It's not like I pull it out of my fridge every day and it goes flying across the room. I handle it just fine. I don't, you know what? Why don't you put a handle on, put a handle on the soap, put a handle, what about that thing at Crisco? Doesn't that need a handle? What about the eggs? Don't they all need their little suction device, like their own little handles? Everything's got a handle on it. Handle on the milk cart. What the hell was I born into? True. You never, you didn't know. You ever see one of these things?

1:01:07 Drew Oh, I've seen them.

1:01:08 Adam What about? Not one that's been repaired.

1:01:10 Drew No. That's impressive.

1:01:12 Adam I don't know if that was the in-house thing or she sent it out, maybe back to the manufacturer. I don't know who fixed that thing. I don't think you can get them anymore. She'll be fast. She's very fast to point that out when I make fun of it, that they don't make them anymore.

1:01:27 Caller I was like, I was like, yeah, like Aunt Pat.

1:01:30 Adam Here's why, because people can hold the milk. You know why? There's something called opposable thumbs that we developed in the mid-50s, and now we can carry our milk.

1:01:39 Drew The milk all comes with handles now. The plastic handles.

1:01:42 Adam Those do. Well, I still think she can slide that one in.

1:01:46 James Marsters She has to cut the handle off.

1:01:48 Adam She likes a certain amount of redundancy in her milk boring.

1:01:50 James Marsters In case the first handle fails.

1:01:52 Adam She got to pack them like an aircraft.

1:01:54 James Marsters Like NASA.

1:01:55 Adam Michael?

1:01:56 Yeah.

1:01:56 Adam You're 20?

1:01:57 Caller Yes.

1:01:58 Adam What's that?

1:01:59 Caller The question is, I'm like really sexually active. Like with almost anyone. It could be male or female. My question is, is it normal? I mean, I need to have sex like three times a day. Masturbating is not cutting it anymore. And it's been going on for like the past, I don't know, few years where I just like need it constantly. He's bisexual.

1:02:25 Adam What do you got in the background there? What is that bird or chimp or something?

1:02:28 Caller I don't have nothing in the dog. It's a dog in the backyard.

1:02:33 Adam What kind of dog eat?

1:02:34 Caller It's a Pomeranian.

1:02:37 Drew Oh, yeah. Yeah, it sounds like the world's worst dog.

1:02:39 Caller Oh, yeah. Pretty much.

1:02:41 Adam Damn, I kill that thing. If I were you.

1:02:43 Caller Well, I had a BB gun and my mom took it away because I shot it three times.

1:02:46 Caller Good, good man.

1:02:48 Adam Oh, Michael. Yeah. Here's the people I'd like to talk to. Who's letting Michael have sex with them? Those are the folks I'd like to talk to. Forget about Michael having the sex. Yeah. Who's holding still long enough for Michael to mount up?

1:03:03 Caller Let's see.

1:03:05 Adam Shot his bomber, ain't he?

1:03:06 Drew He's 20.

1:03:07 Adam Yeah.

1:03:08 Drew He's not 11.

1:03:10 Adam Yeah.

1:03:10 Drew Shooting BB guns off?

1:03:12 Adam Well, I got to.

1:03:12 Caller No. Well, I mean, this isn't just, no, I didn't do that recently. This is when I was younger because my mom breeds them for.

1:03:22 Adam Guilty. Done. Guilty. The verdict is in. Mom is guilty. She breeds Pomeranians.

1:03:28 Caller Yeah, pretty much.

1:03:29 Adam Is she a lesbian?

1:03:31 Caller Hell, hell, no. No.

1:03:33 Adam What's wrong with her?

1:03:35 Caller Nothing. My mom.

1:03:37 Adam What dad do? Kill himself?

1:03:39 Caller I wish. No.

1:03:41 Adam Where's dad? Is he there?

1:03:42 Caller No, dad's not here.

1:03:44 Adam What do you do?

1:03:45 Drew Do you wish he killed himself?

1:03:46 Caller No, I was just like saying it just like in general.

1:03:49 Adam Yeah.

1:03:50 Caller I mean, no, I talked to my dad and I kind of get along with him. But I've had a stepfather for the past 14 going on 15 years.

1:03:59 Drew How's he been?

1:04:00 Caller He's cool. He's like the perfect stepdad almost.

1:04:04 Adam Any sexual abuse?

1:04:05 Caller Nope. Well, when I was like, I guess around the age of 13, my cousin sexually abused me.

1:04:16 Adam There you go.

1:04:17 Drew How did they go from no to?

1:04:21 Caller I don't know.

1:04:23 Drew There's just such an amazing-

1:04:24 Caller His brother did the same thing to me.

1:04:26 Drew Who did?

1:04:27 Caller My cousin's brother. So both of my cousins.

1:04:28 Adam Okay. There we go. That's where we get the hypersexuality and the ambivalence and all that kind of stuff. I knew it was something. How many Pomeranians are in that backyard right now?

1:04:38 Caller Just one.

1:04:40 Adam Sounds like a team of them.

1:04:41 Caller She doesn't breed them anymore because they kind of get on my nerves.

1:04:44 Drew All right. So the sexual abuse, Michael, is a major issue here, right? Major. It is what sort of fuels the sexual compulsion. And unless you find a way to sort of rewire what has happened to you.

1:04:59 Caller Well, see, I tried to cut back and I can't-

1:05:02 Drew No, you need some therapy. You really do. You really do.

1:05:06 Adam Do you work?

1:05:07 Caller I work.

1:05:08 Adam Where do you work?

1:05:08 Caller I work at a hospital.

1:05:10 Adam Fantastic.

1:05:11 Caller I'm an insurance verification specialist.

1:05:13 Adam I see. So you're a professional.

1:05:15 Caller Pretty much.

1:05:16 Adam And you have a decent enough job?

1:05:18 Caller Yes.

1:05:19 Adam And you could move out of the house?

1:05:22 Caller Yes.

1:05:22 Adam And maybe use your own medical insurance to see about getting a little therapy?

1:05:29 Caller I've had therapy.

1:05:30 Adam Well, it hasn't worked.

1:05:32 Drew Oh, my God.

1:05:32 Caller I seriously have had therapy. I had therapy because I was like in major depression.

1:05:37 Drew Yeah.

1:05:38 Caller And I was like seriously going through a lot of mixed feelings.

1:05:43 Drew Have they ever suggested you might be bipolar?

1:05:46 Caller No.

1:05:47 Drew Because that's another possibility.

1:05:48 Adam How much therapy did you have?

1:05:51 Caller I went for a few years.

1:05:53 Adam I see.

1:05:53 Caller I had suicide attempts and then I just pretty much got over it. I figured the way I'm dealing with it now is like to become really sexually active.

1:06:05 Adam Okay. Well, you found a nice healthy outlet by banging the bejesus out of everyone.

1:06:09 Caller It's not healthy because I have it like there's times where I have it so much that my groin kind of starts hurting.

1:06:17 Adam No way. Who is letting you have that much sex with them?

1:06:21 Caller Thanks to the Internet, I find a lot of people.

1:06:23 Adam Oh my God. That is true.

1:06:25 Caller Oh my God.

1:06:26 Adam He's got that maniacal man sign that's left. No, I know what you're saying. Now listen. Okay. Hold on a second. First off, you got to move out of that house. One Pomeranian is too many. Those are the world's crappiest dogs. All you people that like those dogs are like rats. Oh God. You should just be put on some barge and drag down the middle of the ocean and just burn. I cannot stand those little things. And this guy's got to move out. He's got to get out of that house. And he's got to get back into a little therapy. And this internet, Drew.

1:06:59 Drew By the way, somebody that have lots of sex, multiple partners, not women.

1:07:06 Adam Oh, interesting. No, but there's a lot. See, here's what's going on. I mean, look at it this way. We have, you know, we know from doing this show that society is decaying at a rapid pace, right? And as the society, it just sort of, I think when we take a look at this Internet thing, we'll say, we'll be able to look at some sort of chart that says, wow, society really hit rock bottom and this Internet came about the same time.

1:07:32 James Marsters Do you really think society is crumbling?

1:07:34 Adam No, I don't care. But listen, I live up in the hills. I'm literally a millionaire. I just want to get to work and back without getting shot. I'm fine. If I just wade through the trash and humanity, I'll be fine. But there's a lot of, I don't think society is crumbling, but there's a growing population of sort of screwed up people who are more apt to act out. And they can be found via the internet. And these are the people that are attracted to the internet oftentimes. These are lonely people. These are people who have social problems. People have, they're not the captain of the football team. They're not the head of the cheerleading squad. They're attracted to the internet. And I have friends I talk to about this where they spend time on the internet and they're meeting all kinds of people. And if you got your own car and you got a job and you got a few bucks in your wallet and you're on that thing and you got a good rap, I mean, you can stay busy.

1:08:26 Drew But I bet Michael's with the men, to judge him by the way he's doing.

1:08:29 Adam Michael? What percentage of the folks that you're with are men?

1:08:37 Caller I don't know, lately about 75 to 80 percent.

1:08:40 Adam Right. There you go. Let's see, 85 to 90 percent. Let's see, I mean, I have like really good... You're just going and banging you. You're just having sex with a bunch of guys whose uncle and cousin got hold of them when they were 12.

1:08:51 Drew Exactly.

1:08:52 Adam And it's one big sort of circle of life.

1:08:55 Yikes.

1:08:57 Caller It's great.

1:08:58 Adam Don't think about that when you're getting a BJ though, it'll kill your erection.

1:09:01 Caller Well, maybe that will help.

1:09:04 Caller But it's only if I could just start, you know?

1:09:06 Adam Listen, don't get any of these guys pregnant.

1:09:08 Caller What?

1:09:10 Caller I'm seriously, like, I know that I've never had any, like, sexually transmitted diseases.

1:09:16 Drew Aren't you worried about getting HIV?

1:09:18 Caller I am, but there's that sexual drive that just keeps me going.

1:09:21 Adam Okay. Listen, Michael, listen to me, you goofball. You go to SA.

1:09:27 Caller SA. Sexual Anonymous?

1:09:28 Drew Yeah, that's right. Sex addicts.

1:09:30 Adam That's right, SA. All right, that's it. Go there and move out of that house. I'm done talking to you. Go to SA and move out of that Pomeranian hell hole. At least the guy's sort of gregarious about it.

1:09:45 Drew Chocular.

1:09:46 Adam He's sort of chocular about the whole thing. My cousin, my last name, and his older brother held me down and I was violated and sodomy. Yeah, those are the days. The old molestation days with the cousins, yeah. You see what you people turn other people into? You see, this is what happens. It doesn't happen once you get a little bit older and the cement in your brain dries, like mine. Mine has become petrified now. Nothing can penetrate it. Even actual bits of useful information cannot permeate my skull. Cryptonite can't penetrate it. Yes, but spent uranium could not make it. It's not hard enough to impregnate my skull, but when you're ten and you're nine and you're five and you're eleven and that uncle gives you a little goosin after a few sixers of Pabst tall boys, pow, locked in, then it becomes frozen and it can't get out. Aha! See? Nothing can get in, but for for a caller nothing can get out. That's heavy, Drew. Write that down. James Marsters is our guest tonight. Buffy the Vampire Slayer will be back after this.

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1:11:47 Caller Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla, that is Dr. Drew.

1:11:50 Adam James Marsters is our guest tonight. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, everybody. He plays Spike the Vampire.

1:11:58 James Marsters The second best show on television.

1:11:59 Adam That's right, right? Just behind the man show. WB, everyone, Tuesday nights, eight o'clock. Drew, who are all the good looking people in that next room? It's really an attractive group in there. Who is that?

1:12:13 Drew Nobody you know.

1:12:15 Adam I know, but what are they?

1:12:16 Drew These are with drcoop.com.

1:12:18 Adam What did you guys do? Go out boozing?

1:12:20 Drew No, we had dinner.

1:12:21 Adam Go out eating tonight?

1:12:22 Drew It's people that either put that deal together or actually from that company. And now drdrew.com is a part of Dr. Coop.

1:12:27 Adam Wow. What are they? Do they work, these people? I mean, they're good looking. They shouldn't be working. They're like work in an office in a movie. You know, like in TV series, they have good looking people working.

1:12:40 Drew Most of them are ballistic experts. That's right.

1:12:44 Adam Which one of you chicks is the explosives expert? The explosives and who throws the knives? I see. And oh no, hold on. You can't have two. You know, it is funny. They never have two people that are pretty good with knives. One is good with knives. One's the ballistics expert. The other is the now the new addition is now the computer. They can hack in any system, right? Which one of you hacks in any system? Over here in the middle. And who's the sexy, super sexy one who never actually has sex?

1:13:20 Drew The psychologist.

1:13:21 Adam Oh, the psychologist with the hair in the bun and the glasses were really, really hot. Short skirts with the slit up the side. Yeah. And then the martial arts expert. They're all there. All right. Well, that is a very attractive bunch, Drew. You were smart to jump ship at that drew.com and get in with the good looking people over at coop.com. Is that it?

1:13:46 James Marsters Coop?

1:13:47 Adam See Everett Coop?

1:13:49 James Marsters I like a babe when he sees one of that guy.

1:13:51 Adam I like see Everett Coop because he looks like he looks like the guy who's on the cover of that Kansas album. You remember that?

1:13:58 Drew It's Captain Ahab.

1:13:59 Adam Is that Captain Ahab? You ever see that Kansas album from like the early 80s? The guy with the beard and no mustache? I can't think of it. Oh, Drew, I'm looking at you. You don't know Steve Largen as you retire. Maria? Never seen the shining. You understand Drew's never seen the shining?

1:14:18 Drew Come on.

1:14:18 James Marsters It's Kubrick.

1:14:19 Adam He didn't ever. Do you know Kubrick history?

1:14:21 Drew I know.

1:14:22 Caller Okay, good.

1:14:23 Caller Maria? Yeah.

1:14:24 Adam You're 17. What's up?

1:14:26 Caller I'm 16. Um, I work at a restaurant, fairly small restaurant.

1:14:33 Drew Strike one.

1:14:34 Adam Yeah.

1:14:34 Drew We get a lot of, I work at restaurants or grocery store calls.

1:14:38 Adam What restaurant?

1:14:39 Caller It's a, it's not a chain of a, I see. Um, actually two brothers founded it about four years ago. And one of the brothers has become a good friend of mine.

1:14:55 Drew So the owner is hitting on you.

1:14:57 Caller Basically.

1:14:57 Drew How old is he?

1:14:58 Caller He was 27.

1:14:59 Drew Yeah.

1:14:59 Adam 27. You're 16.

1:15:01 Drew That is not right.

1:15:02 Adam Yeah. Let me tell you something. I was going on a little jag about, uh, chefs getting a lot of tail and for some reason, women looking at chefs as if they were some sort of celebrity. Uh, restaurant owners are amongst the slimmiest guys on the planet. Yes. Restaurant tours, if they're not gay or slimy.

1:15:21 James Marsters They're the people who have flunked out of every other management program in the world.

1:15:25 Adam The 10% of restaurant owners that aren't gay are slime balls. I don't trust these guys.

1:15:30 Drew It's not the restaurant.

1:15:30 Adam And the managers.

1:15:31 Drew The managers. And not of nice restaurants.

1:15:33 Adam No. Nice too. Nice.

1:15:36 James Marsters Adam, did you wait tables like me?

1:15:37 Adam No.

1:15:38 Caller Oh, okay.

1:15:40 Adam I wanted to. Bad managers, bad restaurant owners.

1:15:43 Drew Horrible people. You did. McDonald's.

1:15:47 Adam I gave a sweep and a mop of the dining area.

1:15:50 Drew Yeah, but the point is that that is just part of that food chain of restaurants. And the management.

1:15:55 Adam Time to clean. Oh, yes. Yeah, no, I was smart. Yes, I waited tables at a restaurant where you're forbidden for tipping. That was my genius when I was 16. Maria, are you having sex with him?

1:16:09 Drew No, I don't.

1:16:11 Adam So what's your question?

1:16:12 Drew I think I think this is sexual harassment. I think you should report the guy.

1:16:15 Adam Oh, it's his restaurant.

1:16:17 Caller No, because I mean, I'm not the only one. But I mean, he definitely has focused on me.

1:16:24 Drew But why would he pick you? Why would makes you a good victim?

1:16:27 Adam She's good looking. That's why I picked her.

1:16:29 Caller Why would you pick him?

1:16:31 Adam Are you good looking?

1:16:32 Caller He seems to think so.

1:16:34 Drew Wait, wait. What about victim?

1:16:37 Caller I don't know why he picked me.

1:16:38 Adam Have you ever raped or molested?

1:16:40 Caller No.

1:16:40 Adam Would you like to be? No.

1:16:44 Drew All right.

1:16:44 Adam So you're not going to see. We know she drew. Wait a minute. She can't couldn't have been raped or molested because she's not going for it.

1:16:50 Drew Right. OK.

1:16:51 Adam There you go. All right, Maria. You're fine.

1:16:53 Caller But I'm just wondering, he because there definitely is an attraction there. And I don't know why I am attracted to him at all.

1:17:01 Adam Well, he's got that leather members only jacket. He drives that I rock. He gets to call the he's the guy makes the uses the marks a lot board and does a special. Now this writes a special with a picture of the crab in the corner.

1:17:15 James Marsters It's the starfish authority that's once.

1:17:17 Adam Yeah. It's the power. He's the alpha male over there. He decides he decides you're going with the bullion base instead of the gazpacho.

1:17:25 Caller I know he knows nothing about cooking. He's the bartender.

1:17:28 Adam I see.

1:17:30 Caller I'm just wondering, he's always saying, I mean, he's definitely like kept his, I wouldn't say kept his distance, but he has refrained from crossing the line. All right.

1:17:44 Adam You'd like him to cross the line though?

1:17:46 Drew No.

1:17:46 Caller I'm just saying.

1:17:47 Adam Well, what do you want?

1:17:48 Caller He's always saying when I'm 18.

1:17:51 Drew Oh, great. So what's the question for us?

1:17:54 Caller I'm wondering, should I pursue this when I'm 18?

1:17:57 Drew You won't be so interested when you're 18.

1:17:59 Adam Just tell her yes. A year and nine months from now, I want you to go balls out for this.

1:18:04 Drew He'll be 30.

1:18:05 Adam That'll be great.

1:18:06 Caller He'll be married. Hey, Maria.

1:18:11 Adam I understand you thinking this way. Everyone thought this way when they're 16, but when you get to be old like us and you look back on it, you realize it is comical. It really is. It's almost retarded and it's logic. You'll be in love with some guy in a month and a half from now.

1:18:29 Caller I wish.

1:18:30 Adam Believe me. Now, what's up with you? Why don't you have guys your own age?

1:18:33 Caller I don't know. I don't know that.

1:18:34 Adam Well, you're very mature. I can tell you that. You're probably too old for your average 16, 17-year-old.

1:18:41 Caller Yeah, I am. That is my problem. I know that.

1:18:44 Adam But listen, what's wrong with dating an idiot? Guys do it all the time. Can't you find a good-looking guy who's not so smart and just hang with him?

1:18:51 Caller I can't. I can't find a guy. Period. I have never had a boyfriend ever.

1:18:56 Caller Why?

1:18:57 Adam What's up?

1:18:57 Caller I don't know. I'm six foot tall and I think that's very intimidating for some people.

1:19:03 Adam What are you coming in at?

1:19:05 Caller Hmm?

1:19:06 Adam What weight? Cruiser, light heavyweight?

1:19:09 Caller Kind of like chunky.

1:19:10 Adam Chunky? No.

1:19:11 Caller 135.

1:19:12 Adam 135, six foot. So you're too good looking, too tall for men?

1:19:15 Caller I don't know.

1:19:16 Caller All right.

1:19:16 Adam Let me hold on a second.

1:19:17 Drew A friend needs to refer her for modeling.

1:19:19 Caller Yeah.

1:19:20 Adam Let me explain something, y'all. I've used this example before and I'm going to use it again. The women who, and the men, although men never use this, never have this angle, I'm too good looking to date. Women are intimidated. Although I may start adopting them.

1:19:36 Drew That's pretty good actually.

1:19:37 Adam Yeah. Why? Why don't I date? Frankly, I'm too hot. Women are intimidated. I'm over six foot. I'm broad at the shoulder and narrow at the hip and I have very silky skin. I hear a touch. See that? So women are intimidated. But women do use this once in a while, which is they're too hot to date. Men are scared to talk to them. I say like this, I use this example. If you put an ad in the paper that says, 1999 Turbo Porsche, Cobalt Blue, 5,000 miles, mint condition, never driven in the rain, always garage, all records owned by one doctor, $100. There's a certain amount of people who wouldn't even pick up the phone because there's gotta be a joke. This is a goof. That's 10%. Everyone else is diving on the phone trying to get that Turbo Porsche for $100. And that's what I say about these six foot superwomen that are too good looking to date. Yes, there is a certain percentage of men who will not come up and talk to you. The same guys who wouldn't pick up the phone to get that Turbo Porsche. Everyone else is on top of you. Just like the guys who are, you think you're not gonna get a phone call, you put a Turbo Porsche in for $100. Believe me, the phone's ringing. And if you're a super good looking chick, the phone's ringing. Because let me just do the math for you. If you're moderately good looking and you're getting asked out on dates and you're better looking than moderate and then you're super good looking, that's how it goes up. Believe me.

1:21:10 James Marsters Yeah, but for 16 year olds. For 16 year olds, they can't care.

1:21:13 Adam It doesn't matter. Six foot tall, hot looking, guys are asking out. And if they're not, it's something that you're doing. It's not about you being intimidating.

1:21:22 Caller All right?

1:21:22 Adam It's something with your attitude.

1:21:23 Drew Right.

1:21:24 Caller Okay.

1:21:26 Adam Jennifer?

1:21:27 Drew Yeah?

1:21:27 Adam I love it when guys do that. In a year and 11 months, I'm going to be banging the bejeezus out of you on your birthday. I'll just take the cake, slide it right off the table and start banging you. Jennifer, you're 17. What's up?

1:21:41 Caller I had a question for James.

1:21:43 Adam Here he is.

1:21:44 Caller I was wondering whether you prefer performing on stage or on camera better?

1:21:52 James Marsters They're very different. I think probably performing on stage is a lot funner because you're kind of in control of the whole story. It doesn't matter if the producer is dead, frankly, as long as the audience is there. I love the producers on the show. When you're doing film, you're more like a building block for someone else to tell a story. They make you look a lot cuter on film, so you got that.

1:22:16 Caller I also want to say you're great. You're awesome. I watch Buffy every week. I can't believe I'm actually talking to you.

1:22:22 James Marsters Oh, sweet. There's 200 people working on Buffy, and all 200 of them are making me look cool, though.

1:22:28 Caller Yeah.

1:22:28 James Marsters I'm a big goof in real life.

1:22:30 Adam No, he's not. He's super cool.

1:22:31 Caller Thank you.

1:22:32 Adam Did you see the house on Haunted Hill, Jennifer?

1:22:35 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

1:22:37 Caller Well, I watched it mainly because I saw the old one. I want to see how they did the new one, to compare.

1:22:42 Adam I saw the house on Haunted Hill, and I liked it, but I was a little bit frustrated because I and the guy I watch it with, we're both stoned by the way, but at the end, we both looked at each other and said, it's not the house on Haunted Hill, it's the Haunted Hill on, it's the Haunted House on the Hill.

1:22:58 James Marsters Yeah.

1:22:58 Adam The Hill is not haunted. You see what I'm saying? It's the house that is haunted.

1:23:01 James Marsters The Haunted House on the Weird Hill.

1:23:03 Adam Yes. The haunted house on the Steep Hill is what I would have called it more accurate. We're both upset. We started to compose a letter and then we decided to eat one.

1:23:14 James Marsters I think the focus groups reacted well to Steep Hill. It just didn't have anything.

1:23:18 Adam The Extremely Haunted House on the Very Steep Hill. No? We'll go with Plan B.

1:23:23 Drew Just get back to your pork rinds.

1:23:25 Adam No, it wasn't. They sell candy at the Blockbuster, which is scary.

1:23:31 Drew Junior Mets.

1:23:32 James Marsters And not the small sizes either.

1:23:33 Adam No.

1:23:34 James Marsters For the big this just brutal. It's brutal.

1:23:37 Adam They have Junior Hesher and then Super Stoner and then the Schicoli Trey with that. I had to borrow a pallet jack to get a Hershey's block out of that. Get the thing up and drag it. And thank God I was driving the truck with the hitch on it. I was able to tow it back to the house.

1:23:55 Drew But what happened to the days when you buy candy at the movie theaters? It'd be like six jujubes.

1:24:01 Adam Yeah, no.

1:24:02 Drew Four Junior Mets.

1:24:02 Adam Everything's jumbo now.

1:24:04 Drew Ultra jumbo.

1:24:05 Adam Yeah, it's jumbo, but the candy now has more air in it. So it's not quite as bad. Everything has this sort of flaky pastry center with a lot of air. So you get the impression of a big block, but it's a lot of air in there. Yeah, I missed, Drew, did you smuggle? And James, you remember smuggling candy into the movie theaters as a kid?

1:24:31 Caller Oh yeah.

1:24:31 Adam Did you get into that?

1:24:32 James Marsters Oh yeah.

1:24:33 Adam Drew, you got into that?

1:24:34 James Marsters Well, I've smuggled popcorn as an adult, but that's just poverty.

1:24:38 Caller Popcorn?

1:24:39 Adam Unpopped?

1:24:41 James Marsters No.

1:24:42 Caller You smuggled popcorn?

1:24:43 Adam No, in a 70-foot extension cord. Into the really smuggling popcorn.

1:24:49 James Marsters That is low rent. That's poor, man. It's like you got two bucks in your pocket. You go to the second-rate movie theater and you don't have anything else. You get two bucks and you're out.

1:24:56 Adam How do you get the popcorn in?

1:24:58 James Marsters You just pretend you're fat.

1:25:00 Adam You just stuff it in there.

1:25:02 James Marsters Right there and just put your hand down your shirt every couple of minutes.

1:25:05 Adam You didn't smuggle a drink in there, like a two-liter thing or Coke.

1:25:07 James Marsters No, but can. And then trying to open the thing waiting for the credits to get loud enough before.

1:25:12 Adam Yeah. I like when guys are drinking in the back of the theater and the bottle drops and it just rolls. It just goes. I mean, like that Miller bottle just goes all the way. For some reason, guys who drinks it in the back and they need more roll on their bottle or something. Or maybe we don't know about the guys who drink in the front because there's no bottle roll. But then that thing will go and it just keep going all the way down. Yeah, they used to go to the liquor store and stock up on the candy and smuggle it in. There was something very gratifying about beating the system that way. All right, we'll take ourselves a little break. James Marsters is here from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Dr. Drew is here from Pasadena. I'm going to go socialize with Drew's good-looking friends. What do you say, Drew?

1:25:56 Drew I'll introduce you.

1:25:56 Adam All right, we'll be back. Yeah, it is love line of Adam Carolla. He is Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Facts number, oh, forget about that. I'm just trying to kill time. James Marsters is our guest tonight, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He plays that vampire spike. WB, Tuesday nights at 8 o'clock. We've cleared up that controversy, Drew. You ready to go?

1:26:58 Caller Ready.

1:26:58 Adam Get back on the phones, talk to Jason. Jason?

1:27:02 Caller Hey, how you doing? Good. I got a question. It's about a blue ball. And is it like a normal, common thing or?

1:27:10 Drew Yes.

1:27:11 Caller Okay. And since Dr. Drew, I guess, is urologist, right?

1:27:15 Drew No. I'm an internist. What's the question exactly?

1:27:19 Caller What actually causes it?

1:27:21 Drew It's congestion. It's thought to be blood and lymphatic congestion of that area.

1:27:27 Caller Right.

1:27:28 Adam But the real, you know, I mean, the layman's is, you know, it's when the bitches ain't putting out, right? And that's what Drew just wrote down on a scratch pad.

1:27:36 Drew You get a lot of pain?

1:27:38 Caller Yeah, it's usually a dull nauseating pain. It actually is kind of actually incapacitating.

1:27:43 Drew Yeah.

1:27:43 Caller I just...

1:27:44 Adam Wait a minute. How often do you have this?

1:27:47 Caller Last year, I was dating a girl and she... I don't know if she had finally let me have sex with her, but she didn't want it that way, so I wasn't pushing it. All right.

1:27:58 Adam But what about some... I'm looking for the word here.

1:28:04 Drew Handi-release?

1:28:05 Adam Some alternatives. Yeah, some imaginative alternatives, such like a hand job or blow job. Something that ends with job, rim job. And hey, by the way, when you're having sex and you're getting something that has job in it, that's good.

1:28:20 Drew That's really good, yeah.

1:28:20 Adam Put me down for whatever has job. Work, maybe. I like the idea of the work being associated with the sex.

1:28:27 Drew Only time, Adam, I think the world job makes you feel good.

1:28:30 Caller Right. Okay, so is there any way to avoid this other than...

1:28:34 James Marsters Masturbation.

1:28:35 Drew Release, yes, release.

1:28:36 Caller Getting off. Okay, I haven't had that problem lately because I have meetings more easily. Girls are easier to take to bed.

1:28:43 Adam Good for you.

1:28:45 Caller I was just kind of wondering what has caused it.

1:28:46 Adam It's congestion. Well, listen, here's what it is. It's not a good idea to interrupt the cycle or process of release in any facet of biology. I figured this out. Meaning, if you have to sneeze, you should sneeze. You shouldn't grab your nose at the last second. You'll blow, your nuts will explode, right?

1:29:09 James Marsters Every damn time. I hate that.

1:29:11 Adam Whatever it is you're trying to do, whether it's vomit or sneeze or ejaculate or take a leak or take a dump, whatever it is, you should do it. And if you don't do it, you're liable to hurt something.

1:29:24 James Marsters Yes.

1:29:24 Adam And this is sort of a slower process, the ejaculation. But it's sort of the same thing. And same theories apply, which is your area says, hey, we're going, we're going, boys.

1:29:36 James Marsters And that's what the wet dream is for, isn't it? That's what we're jumping. We don't care what you're going to do.

1:29:40 Adam But that's a little different and that's more of a build up over time.

1:29:44 James Marsters I mean, over, I went to wet dream way before Blue Balls. Tonight, I've learned that it actually exists. I thought it was just something that some people.

1:29:53 Adam Well, what it is is you make out with someone for five hours, but you never get that release. And you don't know about that because you're a celebrity and you play the guitar. So you have you insist on the orgasm before the date with the young lady. And they usually go go along with that. But if you weren't on a Buffy the Vampire Slayer and you didn't play the guitar next year next year, you have to join our ranks where you don't have that release until you can get home and get it yourself. By the way, you know the dates going bad when you're thinking, I can't wait to get home and jack off.

1:30:27 Caller Oh, man. Come on.

1:30:28 Adam Let's wrap this up so I can get home and get it. My stuff. This could be great. He's like, look down your junk. You go to the bathroom. I'm sorry, brother. I know it's four and a half hours. I know it's long for me to hang in there. We'll be home soon.

1:30:39 James Marsters I'll make it up to you.

1:30:40 Adam Yeah. You can sleep in the car.

1:30:42 Caller Did you beat off?

1:30:49 Yeah.

1:30:49 Adam You're a 19.

1:30:50 What's up? Yeah. Recently, I had four members of my family murdered. And I just wanted to know, like, how do I deal with things? Like, I'm playing sports. Obviously, I am still in college. And I just, like, sometimes I just don't want to get up. I don't want to.

1:31:10 Adam What happened?

1:31:11 Um, it was my sister, my sister and my sister's boyfriend. I don't know when I did decide it. They thought that my parents were going to divorce each other. And it ended up to be that they tried staging a burglary. But I guess it got out of control and they ended up killing my dad, my two brothers and my sister.

1:31:32 Drew Who did?

1:31:33 My, my sister's boyfriend. Um, it goes into detail like, um, my sister's boyfriend told, told, told my, um, Laura, please, told, told my, my sister's boyfriend told my sister to wait in the bathroom and he said that he was going to just get a tie up everyone and everything was not supposed to happen the way it did, but it ended up going the way it did.

1:31:57 Drew There's something very wrong with this story, first of all. Whatever really happened is not what you're being told.

1:32:03 Adam Really? Why not?

1:32:04 Drew They pretended to have a burglary, pretending because they thought they were going to get a divorce.

1:32:10 Caller Yeah. He said, I mean, please.

1:32:12 Adam Now that's retarded. Imagine. I'm thinking, I don't know if I'm making a lie to this, but if you're the dad and you realize his sister's boyfriend is about to kill you, your last thought has to be, you are so grounded, you know what I mean? Like, you were grounded for a million years, you know what I mean? You thought you put in a dent and the Buick was grounding, you ain't seen nothing yet. Boyfriend killing me?

1:32:40 Caller Huge.

1:32:42 Adam You'll never get out of your room. Something is missing from this story.

1:32:47 Drew The story is completely wrong. Whatever it is.

1:32:49 You guys don't think I'm like...

1:32:50 Drew No, we believe you. It's just you're not being told the truth.

1:32:54 Adam Drug addict?

1:32:55 The detectives are telling me and I woke up and I woke up in the middle of of like everything. I saw my dad before he died.

1:33:01 Drew Oh my god.

1:33:03 Adam Where were you? In the house?

1:33:04 Yeah, it so happened that because my door was closed, I was fortunate enough. My sister, me and my sister are the only ones, plus my mom who was stabbed but somehow like made it.

1:33:16 Drew Was he doing speed or something? Was this guy doing speed?

1:33:20 No.

1:33:21 Drew Oh, come on. He has to know.

1:33:22 Adam There was no drugs?

1:33:24 They told us they weren't doing anything. I'm pretty sure that my sister was saying, I don't know what her problem was. The thing is supposedly the reason why we didn't hear no screams is because they put tape over everyone's mouth because it was in the middle of the night.

1:33:38 Drew Okay.

1:33:38 Adam But let me ask a few questions here.

1:33:41 Drew This is a drug thing.

1:33:43 Adam Your sister, why over a divorce? Why would you rob?

1:33:47 They weren't divorced. She thought they were just because my dad may comment.

1:33:51 Adam Okay. That's different now. He thought they were going to get divorced, so he killed everyone.

1:33:54 She was just scared supposedly and-

1:33:56 Adam I know. Listen, I know they weren't divorced. Why would-

1:34:00 Drew Why is it divorced?

1:34:01 Adam Why would you kill people over a divorce? And why would your sister's boyfriend care that your parents were getting divorced?

1:34:09 I have no idea.

1:34:11 James Marsters That's what's weird.

1:34:12 Adam What's going on here? Listen, I don't- I mean, you can grieve and I'm sorry for what's happened and all that.

1:34:19 Drew But they're not telling you the whole-

1:34:19 Adam But there's something, there's big pieces missing from this puzzle.

1:34:23 Drew Here is the SB. Have you taken advantage of victims of violent crimes or anything like that?

1:34:27 Yeah, that's how we had- it happened on July 21st. So we already had everything paid for and everything. We've got that and I'm seeing a therapist and everything.

1:34:36 Drew All right, good. Because you're going to have a post-traumatic stress disorder from this.

1:34:40 Adam Did you say you were stabbed?

1:34:42 No, my mom was.

1:34:44 Adam And your mom was never- was not killed, though?

1:34:46 No.

1:34:46 Adam Just your father and three siblings?

1:34:49 Yeah.

1:34:50 Drew Just.

1:34:51 Adam I mean, not just, but I mean- yeah, I didn't mean to say just, but you know what I mean.

1:34:55 Yeah, only.

1:34:56 Adam And didn't- now what about- okay.

1:34:58 Drew Let's just forget. Let's just stay with helping her.

1:35:00 Adam We're going to get divorced.

1:35:01 Drew Listen, are you on any medication?

1:35:02 Taking Selexa. Is it helping? Not really.

1:35:06 Drew You really- you got to get back to the psychiatrist, whoever is prescribing, because this needs to be dealt with regularly and carefully, and you have to have lots of follow-up.

1:35:15 I see them every week, every week on Wednesday.

1:35:17 Drew Is that therapist or psychiatrist?

1:35:19 Psychiatrist. It's just not working.

1:35:22 Drew And you tell her?

1:35:23 I play basketball too, and I'm like keeping up with-

1:35:25 Drew It's amazing you're doing as well as your RSP. It's amazing. Yeah. Listen, don't look so much at the negative now. Look at the fact that you're able to be at school, you're able to function, you're feeling okay, you survive. There's just a ton. It's going to take a long time to even be remotely near normal.

1:35:40 Adam And look at the fact that you are spared as some sort of message or mission. I mean, I don't want to get too philosophical about the whole thing, but you were spared, you have your life, and you can still have a good life and do good work and have your own family and sort of live on-

1:35:59 Drew As they would want you to.

1:36:00 Adam As they would want you to live on.

1:36:02 Drew And listen, be clear with your psychiatrist about the fact that your symptoms are not well controlled. I'm not sure that you're really telling them that.

1:36:09 Adam Let's take a nice break and have a crying a hug, and we'll be back after this.

1:36:14 Caller Hello, this is your radio.

1:36:17 Caller Loveline will be right back.

1:36:21 Caller This evening, Loveline is brought to you by the Cobalt Lounge and Car Toys. Yeah.

1:36:56 Adam All right, are we done doing the armchair detective work in here?

1:37:00 Caller Yeah. Oh, boy. It's awful.

1:37:02 Adam Very depressing. All right, James Marsters, everybody. I don't know, I'm too depressed to even plug it. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Tuesday nights, 8 o'clock, WB. Thanks, James.

1:37:13 James Marsters You're welcome, Mr. Cut.

1:37:14 Adam Good seeing you. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:37:20 James Marsters You really think society's crumbling?

1:37:23 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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