Episode 1000754887117

6:14 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

6:26 Adam It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla.

6:30 Jenny McShane That's, my mic seems so hot.

6:32 Adam Is that the?

6:33 Drew No, no, sounds fine. Oh yeah, it is. Compared to mine.

6:35 Jenny McShane Yeah, barely have the thing turn up. You fixed that Anderson? Good time.

6:38 Drew Oh no, wait, take it all the way down.

6:40 Adam Still hot.

6:40 Drew All the way down.

6:41 Adam Still hot.

6:41 Drew Ah, now it's fixed. It's Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. Fax number 310-854-4455. Bring it back a little bit.

6:49 Jenny McShane You better hope so. It's going to be a long ass two hours.

6:52 Jenny McShane How dare you?

6:53 Jenny McShane And what's going on?

6:54 Drew You have fine spirits.

6:55 Jenny McShane It's really a...

6:56 Drew What the hell's the matter with you tonight?

6:57 Jenny McShane I'm all figured out.

6:59 Drew Oh, it's because you didn't get to sleep for two days.

7:01 Jenny McShane Well, I didn't sleep when I was in New York, but we all right. Jesus Christ. And Thursday night, I wanted to come across and strangle that chick from the New World, Melissa Howard. What a pain in the ass.

7:12 Drew You didn't say anything to her.

7:14 Jenny McShane I said she was a pain in the ass. I thought she was a pain in the ass when I watched her at Real World, and then when I heard her on the radio, I went, oh.

7:22 Drew You were so nice. I thought we were being cordial to her.

7:24 Jenny McShane Well, I was trying to be nice, but anyway.

7:27 Drew She told me an embarrassing story about her boyfriend.

7:30 Jenny McShane She what?

7:31 Drew I can't divulge it.

7:31 Jenny McShane Okay. Well, don't bring it up then, you idiot. That's horrible radio. Her boyfriend raped her or something, or did something weird to her? Well, did something.

7:40 Adam Okay.

7:40 Jenny McShane I'm going with rape.

7:41 Drew But there's a lot of stuff.

7:43 Adam Okay.

7:43 Jenny McShane Speaking of rape, let's bring our guest up now. Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. Jenny is currently on the watcher, the James Spader, Canna Reeves, or I should say Canna Reeves, James Spader movie, which is out in a pretty wide release. And what did it do? It's doing pretty good, isn't it? Did it make some money, this movie?

8:04 Jenny McShane It was number one at the box office for two weeks. I think we came in fourth last week.

8:07 Drew Except for that, I meant it okay.

8:12 Jenny McShane I just, no one likes Canna Reeves.

8:15 Jenny McShane That's the problem.

8:16 Jenny McShane Guys don't like him. Girls do. Do girls like him?

8:19 Jenny McShane I think he's great.

8:20 Jenny McShane You do? Nice guy?

8:21 Jenny McShane Very nice.

8:22 Jenny McShane He seems crazy to me.

8:24 Jenny McShane He's not. He's really not. He's great.

8:27 Jenny McShane Really? He's not nutty?

8:28 Jenny McShane No.

8:29 Jenny McShane I know. Not by actress or actor standards, but by regular guy standards, he's nutty, right? No.

8:36 Jenny McShane My brother got into the movie by accident as an extra. He thought he was cool.

8:40 Jenny McShane He said, I like him.

8:41 Jenny McShane I like him. Jenny's cool.

8:43 Jenny McShane How did your brother get into it?

8:44 Jenny McShane My brother's a golf pro and he was on a trip. He was up for the Nike tour and he was on a layover. So I came down to the set and checked it out. I was working with Spader on a scene. I told him to take a seat and they sat him right in the scene. So the camera guy goes, hey, with the guy looking at the camera, please not look at the camera. I'm like, that's not a guy. That's my brother. Someone get a paycheck over here.

9:05 Jenny McShane So you worked. Man, I wish my sister would get me into something. And my sister, my sister actually, she was nice enough to work me into a gig. I pay for her kid's child support for the daycare.

9:16 Drew Now?

9:17 Jenny McShane Yeah, that's the gig. My sister got me worked into. Not the movies, the 800 bucks a month. Fantastic. Yeah. The Outlaws is also a movie that's coming out that you're in. When is that? When's that coming out?

9:30 Jenny McShane It should be out in six months. I just finished filming that with Michael Madsen and Forrest Whitaker's little brother Damian and William Forsythe and Jeff Fahey.

9:39 Jenny McShane Okay. Now, I know Michael Madsen is nuts. He's nuts.

9:43 Jenny McShane He is nuts. He's great.

9:44 Jenny McShane He is nuts, this guy. And you know the thing about Michael Madsen? Michael Madsen's made like three really good movies and 135 horrible movies. What is up with him?

9:56 Jenny McShane He likes to work. I asked him.

9:57 Jenny McShane Oh my God. Does he like to work?

9:59 Jenny McShane Come on. He came from Blue Collar like I did. You need to work every day. That's the work I think he grew up with.

10:04 Jenny McShane I know. But why doesn't he just spare his dignity and get himself a job, you know, driving a bus or something? I mean, this guy's done some really good work and he's a good actor, but he's done some horrible movies in every movie. I've seen this guy in every third movie, isn't he?

10:21 Jenny McShane Yeah.

10:21 Jenny McShane Him and he works more than Jeanine Garofalo used to work. Thank God she slowed down a little bit. All right. Drew's nodding his head feverishly over there. Jenny was also in two of my favorite, actually one Drew's wife's favorite show, Silk Stockings. Oh, wow. Episode of Silk Stockings. I know your wife goes berserk for Silk Stockings. She proclaimed it a cinematic triumph about eight months ago. And my two favorite shows, Nash Bridges and Renegade. Nash Bridges is my favorite show because they use the first name of the actors in the promos, which I always enjoy. Find out what Cheech and Don are up to. Friday night. Always bothersome to me when they use the guy's first name of the actors. It's like, okay, so what is he? Is he a cop? Is he an actor? I don't know what he is now. Cheech and Don? Where's the suspense?

11:14 Jenny McShane That episode was really great. I played a rock star and it was just really fun working with Cheech and Don. They don't even tell you anything. You're just walking behind them trying to keep up with what they're doing. But both of them are really great to me. I played a rock star in that episode and it was last year's favorite episode.

11:30 Jenny McShane How do you figure out, who figures out what's last year's favorite episode?

11:35 Jenny McShane The network, I guess.

11:37 Drew Great ratings.

11:38 Jenny McShane It means just the ratings?

11:39 Jenny McShane Yeah. Then also I got 77 fan letters on the Internet for that episode as well.

11:44 Jenny McShane Wow.

11:45 Jenny McShane This is great. Drew, you ever get a fan letter?

11:48 Drew I don't know. They would never show up to it. They would carefully burn them and keep them from us.

11:53 Jenny McShane Also, guest starred in my second favorite show besides Nash Bridges, which is Renegade.

11:59 Jenny McShane Renegade was awesome. I played a Mormon preacher girl. My mom was like, you look so ugly on this show.

12:06 Drew Ladies and gentlemen, my mother.

12:08 Jenny McShane I know.

12:09 Drew That's like your mother.

12:11 Jenny McShane That's Stephen J. Canals, a genius.

12:13 Drew That's his too.

12:14 Jenny McShane Yeah. He did the A-Team, which is guys falsely accused of crimes. Guess what? They were framed. Guess what for?

12:21 Drew They didn't do it.

12:21 Jenny McShane A crime they didn't commit. You see? Not just framed, framed for a crime they didn't commit. Then in the A-Team, they lay low in a giant orange van. They lay low in that orange van with an orange Dave Gloves stripe on it, and the black guy with 7,000 pounds of gold jewelry on. They're on a cover, though, and they roamed the LA underground.

12:47 Drew On the freeway.

12:48 Jenny McShane I've lived in LA my whole life. I'm not sure where that is. But when you need them and you get a job done, and the cops won't help you, the A-Team is going to do it. On Renegade, he was framed for a crime. He didn't commit, Lorenzo Lamas, Junior was, right? And he's undercover as a guy with no shirt, a vest, and a hog, a fully dressed hog, and no helmet that he goes up and down the highway with. But he roams the bad lands, not the LA underground. And if you need, he's a bounty hunter.

13:17 Adam He'll help you too.

13:18 Jenny McShane Never gets paid. Never, never accepts money, but helps people.

13:22 Jenny McShane Yep, but you still know all about it.

13:24 Jenny McShane Yep, yep. Because I know like Stephen J. Canale said, genius.

13:28 Adam What a genius.

13:29 Jenny McShane Oh my God. He's so prolific. Heather?

13:34 Jenny McShane Yes.

13:34 Jenny McShane You're 16. What's up?

13:36 Jenny McShane I was just wondering, can you get pregnant when you're on your period?

13:39 Drew It's possible, yes.

13:40 Jenny McShane You can?

13:41 Drew Yep.

13:41 Jenny McShane All right.

13:42 Jenny McShane But it's not probable.

13:43 Drew It's less probable. But again, it's hard to know when you've ovulated, and so I wouldn't count on anything.

13:48 Jenny McShane It's hard to find guys to have sex with you too.

13:50 Drew Just use morning-after-prayal or get appropriate contraception, okay?

13:54 Jenny McShane All right.

13:55 Drew I'm trying to have more discussion about the RU-486 on this show. You'd think we would, you know?

13:58 Jenny McShane Yeah, that's just legalized in this country, right? And now, let's just break it down so people understand what it is. RU-486 is essentially an abortion pill.

14:11 Drew Absolutely.

14:11 Jenny McShane Whereas the morning-after pill is a prevention pill.

14:16 Drew I was reading today that it has about 95% effectiveness as an abortion pill. And yet, if you take the morning-after pill within a day, you're at 90% and you haven't caused an abortion.

14:25 Adam Right.

14:25 Jenny McShane So the morning-after pill is a pill that does not let you get pregnant. Right. And the RU-486 is something you take after you get pregnant.

14:32 Drew Correct.

14:33 Adam Right.

14:33 Jenny McShane Now, what do you think would happen if you took the RU-486 right after you had sex without a condom?

14:41 Drew That's an interesting question.

14:42 Jenny McShane Think it would make an impact?

14:43 Drew In other words, could RU-486 be used in... Well, but then you're still causing an abortion. You really are. Because it's about the uterine lining and it's a readiness to accept implantation, to reject. And that's where the arguments break down. And I'm probably not going to get behind RU-486.

14:59 Jenny McShane I'm going to ride on the RU-486 float that they're having.

15:02 Drew You can. You may. I'll stay firmly behind the warning after.

15:06 Jenny McShane They're having a big heterosexual parade down Wilshire coming up soon. They want me to be the Grand Marshal. My feeling is that this pill is long overdoing this country. It's been in Europe for a good 20 years. And these a-hole Bible thumpin Republicans are complaining that it was rushed through the FDA.

15:23 Drew And it's dangerous.

15:24 Jenny McShane And it's dangerous. I swear to Christ, how long has this stuff been used in Europe?

15:28 Drew 20 years.

15:29 Jenny McShane 20 years.

15:30 Drew It was first outlawed here in 89.

15:33 Jenny McShane Outlawed in 89. Right. Maybe even before that. I seem to remember-

15:36 Drew There's a big-

15:37 Jenny McShane I remember women going to Europe trying to get it and bring it back with them. Yeah, so this stuff's been in wide use on a-

15:45 Drew Wide use.

15:45 Jenny McShane On a worldwide stage for many, many years.

15:48 Drew 20 years.

15:49 Adam Yeah.

15:49 Jenny McShane So it's not being pushed through the FDA process, is it?

15:52 Drew No, no, no.

15:53 Adam Beautiful. Farrah?

15:55 Jenny McShane And that's, by the way, what I love about politicians. More talk about nothing. Do you know what I mean? These guys are up there pounding their fist saying that RU-46 was pushed through too quickly, needs more consideration. As usual, zero relevance. Zero. Thank you. Farrah?

16:12 Jenny McShane Hi, everybody.

16:13 Jenny McShane Hey, you're 23. What's up?

16:15 Jenny McShane I have a question. I have a lot of pain with any kind of penetration, be it the masturbation or the gynecologist.

16:22 Jenny McShane Same here.

16:24 Jenny McShane Oh, I'm sure. Right, Adam. And...

16:27 Jenny McShane No, I mean, when I'm penetrated, it hurts.

16:31 Jenny McShane Oh, yeah?

16:31 Jenny McShane Well, you go.

16:34 Drew Has it always been this way for you?

16:35 Jenny McShane Yes. And I was wondering if it had to do with being on my... I'm manic oppressive. And I'm on Prozac Neurontin Boost Bar.

16:44 Drew Have you always been on those medicines?

16:46 Jenny McShane I've always been on... Yes.

16:48 Drew So as long as you've been sexually active, you've been on those meds?

16:51 Jenny McShane Yes.

16:52 Drew I would say not.

16:54 Jenny McShane Not what?

16:55 Drew The medicines have nothing to do with it. Although the Prozac can decrease your libido like crazy.

17:00 Jenny McShane Yeah, I have no libido.

17:01 Drew Yeah.

17:02 Jenny McShane I haven't been sexually active over... It's been five years now.

17:05 Drew And is the pain at penetration, right?

17:07 Jenny McShane Five years.

17:08 Jenny McShane Yeah.

17:08 Jenny McShane So, you were 18? That was the last time you had intercourse?

17:11 Jenny McShane Yes.

17:11 Drew Well, but let me go further.

17:13 Jenny McShane All right. But how did she know five years? Things should change.

17:16 Drew She puts masturbation. She puts things out.

17:17 Jenny McShane Oh, she had... Oh. What do you put in there? Like a lamp or...

17:21 Drew A lava lamp.

17:21 Jenny McShane An Oscar or...

17:22 Drew That's why the lava lamp's like...

17:23 Jenny McShane Turkey baster. Turkey baster.

17:26 Jenny McShane No. Finger.

17:28 Jenny McShane Like, put your finger.

17:28 Drew And is the pain just at the time of penetration or...?

17:31 Jenny McShane Yes. And then also, when I was having sex, it was also as it got further in...

17:37 Drew Were you sexually abused in your child?

17:39 Jenny McShane Not that I know of, no.

17:40 Drew Because that's one of the symptoms of...

17:43 Jenny McShane I've been listening to your show forever and I haven't seen any...

17:46 Jenny McShane Five years.

17:48 Drew Could it...

17:49 Jenny McShane Wait a minute. You haven't had a boyfriend in those five years? Nope. What's up?

17:55 Jenny McShane Don't want one.

17:56 Jenny McShane Don't want one?

17:57 Jenny McShane No.

17:58 Jenny McShane Why?

17:59 Jenny McShane Because I have no libido.

18:01 Jenny McShane Yeah.

18:02 Jenny McShane No, I don't feel...

18:03 Jenny McShane Hold on. Let me talk to my posse here for a second.

18:06 Adam All right.

18:08 Jenny McShane Jenny and Drew. She has pain within her course. Doesn't necessarily have to be something that's physically wrong with her. She hasn't had a relationship in five years and not five years, not age 50 to 55, age 18 to 23. I mean, Jenny, you've probably squeezed a few relationships into that time period, right?

18:29 Jenny McShane I mean, I didn't have sex until I was 21. So you guys are giving me the full sex education.

18:34 Jenny McShane Really?

18:35 Jenny McShane I'm serious.

18:36 Jenny McShane Wow.

18:36 Jenny McShane But-

18:37 Jenny McShane I was all wrong about you.

18:39 Jenny McShane All wrong.

18:40 Jenny McShane Entirely wrong.

18:41 Jenny McShane Way off.

18:42 Jenny McShane My dad's father is a nun, so I was pretty close to that.

18:46 Drew Your dad's father is a nun?

18:47 Jenny McShane Yes.

18:48 Jenny McShane But one thing I just thought of-

18:51 Jenny McShane Hold on.

18:53 Jenny McShane Doesn't nun mean feminine?

19:00 Jenny McShane Someone just said, huh?

19:01 Drew Was he a monk? A monk?

19:02 Jenny McShane No. She's a Franciscan monk.

19:05 Drew Oh, she?

19:05 Jenny McShane Oh, she.

19:06 Drew You said your dad's father.

19:07 Jenny McShane No, my dad's sister.

19:09 Drew Your dad's sister.

19:10 Jenny McShane Okay. Little Freudian.

19:11 Jenny McShane Sorry. I'm sorry.

19:12 Jenny McShane Did I say dad's father?

19:13 Jenny McShane You said your dad's father was some nun.

19:16 Jenny McShane We took a pause.

19:18 Jenny McShane Like a guy with a cigar and a beard and a habit.

19:20 Drew I imagine Sister Patrille with a beard.

19:23 Jenny McShane Sister Patrille had a beard.

19:25 Jenny McShane No, she tried to convince me to be the first actress to be a nun and I said, I'd only be able to do G-movies and there's not a lot of those out there. So I think I'll have to think about that real hard.

19:35 Adam Well, okay.

19:37 Jenny McShane So you waited until you're 21?

19:40 Jenny McShane Yeah.

19:40 Jenny McShane Well, that's nice. How old are you now?

19:44 Jenny McShane 29.

19:44 Jenny McShane So you've been making up for it since then, right?

19:47 Jenny McShane Yeah.

19:47 Jenny McShane Okay. So now we're just talking to Farrah. Yeah. Now see, I wonder if there's something going on emotionally that's causing a little bit vaginismus that Drew likes to talk about.

19:59 Drew I think she should look up at drdrew.com. If you look on the search engine, there's a vaginismus, there's several articles on that. There are ways to retrain it. There's some thinking aside from the fact that it's an emotional response to penetration, that there's actually a spinal reflex that gets entrained.

20:14 Jenny McShane Or it could be not to interrupt, but it could be a tipped uterus.

20:18 Drew Yeah, but not right at the penetration. But just as it's going in.

20:21 Jenny McShane With your finger?

20:21 Drew Tipped uterus is when it's all the way in.

20:23 Jenny McShane That's true.

20:24 Drew That's when it feels uncomfortable.

20:25 Jenny McShane What's up? Is your uterus a little tipped?

20:27 Jenny McShane Yes, it is.

20:28 Jenny McShane You got a little tipped on your ears? Let me explain something that I've learned from this show.

20:33 Drew Yeah.

20:33 Jenny McShane Anybody knows anything medically that's not a doctor themselves?

20:36 Drew They've got it.

20:36 Jenny McShane They got it. So I just think whenever they start talking about cleaved palate or gromatosis or whatever, their shingles, when they start speaking about anything, you just be careful because I would just think, got it, got it, going to get it, got it. So what's tipped on you?

20:59 Drew Uterus. Uterus. It's called a retroverted uterus, retroflex.

21:02 Jenny McShane Is it all the way around?

21:03 Drew Give me the drawing.

21:04 Jenny McShane No. No. Jenny can show me on her own uterus. Is it turned a little bit?

21:10 Jenny McShane It's just like tipped in a different direction. So I found this out because my mother had eight children and she always had problems having her children because of this.

21:18 Jenny McShane Why would you have eight if you had difficulty after the first?

21:21 Jenny McShane She's baby crazy.

21:22 Jenny McShane No kidding.

21:24 Drew Yeah. By the way, having eight means not having difficulty having children by definition.

21:28 Jenny McShane I know.

21:29 Jenny McShane Every time.

21:29 Drew I mean, 20 percent of pregnancy end in abortion spontaneously. So even if she was pregnant every month for 12 years, she still, that's be eight babies.

21:38 Jenny McShane Right.

21:39 Jenny McShane So listen, I haven't said this on the air, but my nuts are tipped.

21:44 Adam Maybe we could get together.

21:46 Drew Tip testes?

21:47 Jenny McShane Yeah, tip testes. My dad knows because-

21:51 Drew His are tipped too.

21:52 Jenny McShane His are tipped as well. Grandpa Corolla was tipped. I saw old pictures of him, black and white.

21:58 Jenny McShane Okay, I'll stop talking.

21:59 Jenny McShane You can still see it.

22:00 Drew Wait a minute, we didn't finish the third.

22:01 Jenny McShane Oh, yes, we did.

22:02 Drew Check out Vaginismist at drdrew.com.

22:04 Adam All right, Mary?

22:05 Jenny McShane Yeah, hi.

22:05 Jenny McShane You're 16, what's up?

22:07 Jenny McShane Okay, I'm a really big fan. I love the Man Show. I love the Man Show.

22:10 Jenny McShane Oh my God, the Man Show. It's on right now. Comedy Central. I always forget to bring that up. Well, I didn't bring it up last week.

22:18 Drew Oh, hell, you didn't.

22:19 Jenny McShane I didn't bring it up.

22:20 Drew At 11 o'clock, you did.

22:21 Jenny McShane You talked about the next hour.

22:22 Jenny McShane At 11 o'clock, the show's on at 10, you idiot. Everyone turn to Comedy Central right now. You watch the Fabulous Man Show. This is the best episode we ever did.

22:32 Jenny McShane Okay, well, I'm doing this project for my art class, and I have to do a shrine of somebody I admire, right?

22:39 Drew A shrine?

22:40 Jenny McShane Yeah, a shrine.

22:41 Jenny McShane Right.

22:42 Jenny McShane I'm like, why not do Adam? Because you're like one of my biggest idols.

22:45 Jenny McShane Yeah.

22:46 Jenny McShane So, I was wondering, like, what I could do in it.

22:49 Jenny McShane Hey, I'll tell you, I can save you some time, Mary. I did a shrine to myself a couple of years back. I just sent it out to you and turned that in. Just on hiatus, had a little time around the house. I do a shrine. Another shrine. The old shrine had been worn out from me passing it around at parties and stuff.

23:04 Drew Made out of ceramics?

23:06 Jenny McShane It's construction paper, elbow macaroni, some silver spray paint, and some ceramic work on there. Yeah. And a lot of headshots, things like that. Clippings from newspapers, part of a football trophy. Used condoms, stuff like that.

23:23 Jenny McShane Maybe I could put some lotion and tissue.

23:26 Jenny McShane That's fantastic. Right.

23:29 Drew No, no, no. The tissue would break down too quickly. I think a gym sock.

23:33 Jenny McShane Yeah, yeah. Use a gym sock. And if you can't find any semen, just put a little spray starch on it. That worked.

23:42 Jenny McShane And let's see. And I was wondering if you can sing some taboo too for me so I can maybe like record it and put it in there too.

23:51 Jenny McShane Yeah. Do you are you loud audio, an audio portion in your shrine?

23:56 Jenny McShane I can put whatever I want in it.

23:58 Jenny McShane And this is for a grade?

24:00 Jenny McShane Yeah.

24:00 Drew Oh. And you plan to stay in high school?

24:05 Jenny McShane Yeah. What kind of school is this? This is a public school?

24:09 Jenny McShane Yeah.

24:10 Jenny McShane Oh, boy.

24:10 Drew Alternative sort of.

24:12 Jenny McShane Yeah. Are you going to the hippie, you know, the loser public school or the regular?

24:17 Jenny McShane The regular.

24:17 Jenny McShane It's not the alternative one?

24:20 Jenny McShane It's pretty mixed. We have some ghetto people at our school, though.

24:24 Jenny McShane Yeah. But what I mean is, is like at our school, I went to North Hollywood High. And in the corner of North Hollywood High, they took like the girl's softball diamond and fenced it off. And they made it into Amelia Earhart. Apparently Amelia Earhart was from North Hollywood or crashed into it one time or something. There's a lot of North Hollywood Library with Amelia Earhart statues, a lot of Amelia Earhart, North Hollywood stuff going on. Anyway, this school was called Amelia Earhart. It's basically the students called, my sister went there for like half a semester. You call the teachers by their first names. You show up when you want to show up and leave when you want to leave. It's sort of the school, it's high school for guys who don't want to give up the weed and attendance problems.

25:02 Drew Those kinds of schools do not exist anymore because they were such abject miserable failures.

25:07 Jenny McShane Oh, really?

25:08 Drew Yeah. Now they're the concentration camp.

25:10 Jenny McShane They don't have like the weird hippie school.

25:13 Drew Not public.

25:14 Jenny McShane Oh, okay. All right. Hey, Mary?

25:16 Jenny McShane Yeah.

25:17 Jenny McShane So you wanted some Taboo 2?

25:19 Jenny McShane Yeah. I want you to sing some Taboo 2 so I can record it.

25:24 Jenny McShane Do you have your tape recorder poised and ready?

25:25 Adam Yeah.

25:25 Jenny McShane I'm playing it right now.

25:26 Jenny McShane Oh, you are?

25:27 Adam All right.

25:28 Jenny McShane Well, I'll lay down a little.

25:30 Adam Sure.

25:31 Jenny McShane You talk me into it.

25:32 Drew Take it out to break with a little bit of the pipes.

25:35 Jenny McShane Well, I got to hear. Taboo 2, by the way, is one of my all-time favorite porno movies from about 19.

25:40 Drew Set up for Jennifer. She doesn't understand what you're talking about.

25:42 Jenny McShane About 19. Well, listen, I didn't grow up with a VCR.

25:47 Jenny McShane I didn't either.

25:48 Jenny McShane Okay. I'm not accusing you of having a good family. I did not have a VCR. My dad's first move was Beta. What a genius. And this is like 81. So my friend, the Wheeze, had a VCR when I was like 18 or 19. And his porn movie was, he had like a deep throat and he had Taboo 2. And I watched Taboo 2 like 175 times in one weekend. And I really enjoyed it. And I just got reacquainted with it. You know, it's like an old girlfriend or something, like someone I haven't seen since my senior year in high school. And it has great music in it. And I actually recorded one of-

26:23 Drew Great.

26:24 Jenny McShane Okay. Superior music.

26:26 Drew Exceptional.

26:27 Jenny McShane Exceptional. Exquisite music in it.

26:29 Drew No, exceptional.

26:29 Jenny McShane And I made a little recording of it at home and this is called He's Got It All.

26:35 Drew Well, who are you singing about? Oh, hold on, hold on.

26:38 Jenny McShane Yeah, yeah. This is a song written about Junior, a guy who's raping his sister and his mom. So it's kind of an homage. So she's singing about Junior. Well, not really raping, but forcefully having sex with his family. Here we go.

26:54 Jenny McShane Thank you.

27:02 Jenny McShane Just listen to the words. Watch this. Give Mary an A! That's the part I like, it's like a musical. It's like I'm singing every woman in the world.

28:10 Drew And you wonder why the country is in the shape it is, this is high cinematic triumph, circa 1981.

28:18 Jenny McShane You'd want him to if you only knew.

28:21 Drew Guys having sex with his mom and his sister, just somebody worth singing homage to.

28:25 Jenny McShane To be fair to Jr., they both fought him off at the beginning, but eventually they let their guard down, and as it turns out, they enjoyed it.

28:35 Drew So the song says.

28:36 Jenny McShane That's right, if you only knew. All right, Mary.

28:39 Jenny McShane Do you think I could get some pictures to me?

28:41 Jenny McShane I don't have any pictures. You want to come down here and take some?

28:44 Drew Maybe Ann.

28:46 Jenny McShane I can't do that.

28:47 Adam Where are you?

28:49 Jenny McShane Okay.

28:50 Jenny McShane Where are you calling from?

28:52 Jenny McShane San Francisco.

28:52 Adam Oh, yeah.

28:53 Jenny McShane That's a short six-hour car ride.

28:57 Drew Talk to Ann off the air. She'll set something up for you.

28:59 Jenny McShane Really?

28:59 Drew Yeah.

28:59 Jenny McShane What picture is she in?

29:00 Drew I don't know.

29:01 Jenny McShane The one with you in it. She doesn't want that.

29:04 Drew Cut that out.

29:04 Jenny McShane All right, we'll just crop that. Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. She's in The Watcher, new Keanu Reeves movie, which is currently in theaters as we speak. And we'll be back with her and you and all of us after this.

29:19 Jenny McShane Loveline, with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

29:51 Adam Hey, yeah.

29:53 Jenny McShane Biff, Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. The Man Show. Yeah, it's on right now. Just a couple more minutes of comedy left. Comedy Central, everybody. Yeah, Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. Jenny's currently on The Watcher. That's with Keanu Reeves and James Spader. What's your part? I haven't seen this movie.

30:20 Jenny McShane I play a homicide detective with James Spader.

30:23 Jenny McShane Oh, yeah.

30:24 Drew A holistic expert.

30:25 Jenny McShane I think it's... I like the role because I'm one of the guys.

30:29 Jenny McShane Because you get paid?

30:29 Jenny McShane Yeah, that too. But it's cool when women in film have a strong role, I think.

30:35 Jenny McShane I like that too. It gives me an erection. Like I was telling Drew last week, remember when Wonder Woman used to get the Nazis, like wrestle with them a little bit? Yeah, that was great. Yeah. Is that strong?

30:47 Jenny McShane I love Wonder Woman.

30:48 Jenny McShane Yeah, me too. She, when she wanted the truth.

30:51 Drew Do you like the Laker?

30:52 Jenny McShane Yeah, I mean, I like the Laker.

30:54 Jenny McShane Did you?

30:55 Jenny McShane No, yeah.

30:56 Jenny McShane How much?

30:57 Jenny McShane I think one of my earlier Masmatory fantasies, this is before I, you know, had my head screwed on straight.

31:05 Drew More like a jag, wouldn't it?

31:07 Jenny McShane One of my-

31:07 Drew Preoccupation, not a fantasy.

31:13 Jenny McShane Yeah. One of my early Masmatory jags, probably about 15 years old, was I think was, oh, wait a minute. Yeah, I think it was Wonder Woman broke into Adrienne Barbeau's house. They had sex or something. I didn't know what we were doing back then.

31:33 Jenny McShane My friend Terry Polo who is in Meet the Parents, which is coming out soon, did a movie of the week with Linda Carter. So she came home and she's like to her husband, honey, honey, can you imagine? I rubbed boobs with Wonder Woman today. He was like freaking out.

31:46 Jenny McShane Oh yeah. Which one is she in Meet the Parents?

31:50 Jenny McShane She plays the fiance of Ben Stiller.

31:53 Jenny McShane Oh yeah. The blonde one.

31:54 Drew Yeah. Whose dad is he's meeting.

31:56 Jenny McShane Yes.

31:56 Jenny McShane Oh yeah. Well, that's a nice part for her. I've seen her in a bunch of other stuff, but I just can't remember.

32:01 Jenny McShane She was in The Arrival with Charlie Sheen. She's great.

32:04 Jenny McShane The Arrival with Charlie Sheen.

32:07 Jenny McShane Oh, Aliens. Yeah. That's right. Aliens. Sarah?

32:11 Jenny McShane Yeah. Hello?

32:13 Jenny McShane You're 16. What's up?

32:14 Jenny McShane Hi. Okay. Well, one of my really good friends, for a while she had this horrible smell. It comes from her crotch.

32:24 Drew Is she aware of it?

32:25 Jenny McShane I think so. I actually confronted her on it a couple weeks ago, and she got so mad at me, and she thought I was crazy, but my other friends, they noticed it too.

32:36 Drew Yeah. Did you talk to her about it potentially being an infection?

32:39 Jenny McShane Well, she's not sexually active.

32:41 Drew It still could be an infection.

32:42 Jenny McShane Oh. I actually went to the store with her, and I said, well, why don't we get some summer's eve or something? She was like, okay, well, I'll buy it. She said she tried it, and it didn't work. She gets in moods where she'll talk about it, but then sometimes she gets really mad if I bring it up.

33:00 Drew You should tell her to talk to her doctor about it, because there's some antibacterial creams that she can use that might clear that up very nicely.

33:05 Jenny McShane How's her hygiene in general?

33:07 Jenny McShane Well, like, I don't really, I mean, she seems like a pretty clean person. It's like, just like recently, like the past month or so, it's like, if I spend at her house or something and she's in her pajamas, I can just smell it, and it's like foul.

33:22 Jenny McShane So it makes oral sex uncomfortable.

33:25 Jenny McShane Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just like, it's horrible.

33:29 Jenny McShane I just kind of snuck that one in there.

33:31 Drew I know, she went for it, too.

33:32 Jenny McShane Yeah.

33:32 Jenny McShane I see.

33:34 Jenny McShane And does it taste bad as well or does it just smell bad?

33:36 Jenny McShane Oh, yeah, it's horrible.

33:38 Jenny McShane Horrible taste? Maybe you should ask her boyfriend.

33:41 Jenny McShane Oh, really? Does she have a boyfriend?

33:42 Jenny McShane Yeah, I actually taught, I didn't like want to make it a big deal, but like-

33:46 Drew Is it possible she's sexually active with him?

33:48 Jenny McShane I think she would tell me. She's like one of my best friends. I'm like, I know they've had oral sex, and he actually came up to me and-

33:55 Jenny McShane He what?

33:57 Jenny McShane He came up to you and said what?

33:58 Jenny McShane He like asked me if like, because he noticed it also.

34:02 Drew He's got to talk to her, he really does. You got to sort of get her, and if she's sexually active, it's important she get a pelvic exam.

34:08 Jenny McShane That's bad times.

34:10 Drew It's very simple to cure.

34:11 Jenny McShane Is she attractive?

34:14 Jenny McShane I guess.

34:15 Jenny McShane This is more tolerable on an attractive woman.

34:18 Jenny McShane Yeah. Yeah.

34:19 Jenny McShane Guys can sort of work with it.

34:21 Jenny McShane Yeah. But her boyfriend, he said he just noted it. He noted it also.

34:26 Jenny McShane Okay. You know what I'm saying, Drew?

34:28 Drew I'm listening.

34:30 Jenny McShane It's the difference between, remember I told you that time I was in the locker room in high school after football practice, and I was like, I smell, let's see, what is that? Deep dish pizza, probably, yeah, Chicago style, with pepperoni or maybe anchovy on it. Turn around, it's a black guy taking his jock trap off, and he's standing on a bench. He won't get an athlete's foot and his ass is right in my face. I'm thinking, oh, Christ, that's what I've been sniffing. Then immediately went south.

35:00 Drew Yeah, and then you're vomiting. You go from pizza, I'm hungry, I'm thrown up.

35:04 Jenny McShane I'm thrown up. Now, here's my point. The vagina, when it smells, if it's on a big, fat, unattractive woman, it gets really bad. If it's on a very beautiful woman, you can work with it a little bit. You know what I mean? You can almost use it. Right? You know what I'm saying, Jenny?

35:22 Jenny McShane No, I don't.

35:26 Jenny McShane But you guys know what I'm talking about out there.

35:28 Jenny McShane I'm listening. I'm learning a lot.

35:29 Adam Oh, yeah.

35:30 Jenny McShane Mike?

35:31 Jenny McShane Hey, Adam. Hey, Jenny. What's up?

35:33 Jenny McShane Hey, you're 18. What's up?

35:34 Jenny McShane Okay. Jayden, say hi to me. My God.

35:36 Jenny McShane Hi.

35:36 Jenny McShane How are you?

35:37 Jenny McShane Okay.

35:38 Jenny McShane All right. My question here is, because like I'm 18 years old, right? All right. I'm a virgin and my girlfriend's not. And she don't want to have sex until like we're married.

35:51 Jenny McShane You guys, why is that funny? I like that.

35:54 Jenny McShane Ha ha.

35:55 Drew No. What was the nature of her sexual activity before?

35:58 Jenny McShane What do you mean?

35:58 Drew Was she kind of wild before?

35:59 Jenny McShane Well, not wild, but she's like kind of bisexual too and had sex with her best friend.

36:04 Drew All right. So this is that trajectory issue. Was she sexually abused when she was younger?

36:10 Jenny McShane No.

36:10 Drew But did she have some physical abuse or something?

36:12 Jenny McShane No.

36:13 Drew Mike, something's up. You got to look into this.

36:15 Jenny McShane This feast and famine thing always means they were screwed with.

36:18 Drew Right. That she was wild with confused sexual identity, having sex with lots of people, and then all of a sudden zero. That means that she's got some issues about her sexuality.

36:27 Jenny McShane No, not lots of people, just like two, I think, in two guys and like a girl.

36:36 Jenny McShane Maybe she's just trying to get his attention.

36:39 Jenny McShane Where's her dad?

36:40 Drew I bet if we had.

36:41 Jenny McShane She's all like normal.

36:43 Drew Where is she? Can we talk to her?

36:44 Jenny McShane No.

36:45 Drew I bet we get to the bottom of this.

36:46 Jenny McShane It's like a long-distance relationship.

36:48 Jenny McShane She's chained to the radiator.

36:49 Drew Long distance.

36:50 Jenny McShane Where are you calling from?

36:51 Jenny McShane LA.

36:52 Jenny McShane Where is she?

36:54 Jenny McShane Like.

36:55 Drew Approximately. She's in Washington.

36:58 Jenny McShane He's full of crap. He's making this up.

37:00 Drew Probably.

37:01 Jenny McShane Well, wait a minute. This isn't good enough to make up, is it? Doesn't have to be better than this?

37:06 Drew I think he was trying to protect her identity a little bit.

37:09 Jenny McShane Where is she?

37:10 Jenny McShane Washington.

37:11 Jenny McShane Which one?

37:13 Jenny McShane The Seattle one.

37:14 Adam Okay.

37:16 Jenny McShane What's she doing over there?

37:17 Jenny McShane She lives there, but she's moving back here soon.

37:20 Jenny McShane How old is she?

37:21 Jenny McShane I see.

37:22 Drew Is she going to school up there?

37:24 Jenny McShane Yeah.

37:27 Jenny McShane Hey, Mike?

37:28 Jenny McShane What's up?

37:29 Jenny McShane Okay. Here's my big problem with this call.

37:32 Jenny McShane What?

37:32 Jenny McShane Every answer you give sounds like you're lying. Because you're going to look-

37:35 Jenny McShane Well, because I don't want them listening. I don't want them to know what's me and all that.

37:38 Jenny McShane All right. I'll buy that. All right.

37:42 Drew There's more to be revealed about her, I'm telling you. Either that or she is just trying to get your attention.

37:48 Jenny McShane I think she wants to see how much she really likes her.

37:50 Jenny McShane What do you-

37:50 Jenny McShane We're engaged though.

37:51 Jenny McShane What do you get to do with her?

37:52 Adam You're engaged?

37:53 Jenny McShane Yes.

37:53 Drew How long have you known her?

37:55 Jenny McShane All since children, since childhood.

37:58 Adam Yeah.

37:59 Jenny McShane That's weird. I always think that's weird.

38:01 Jenny McShane We've been serious now for about a year.

38:04 Drew When was it she was so sexually active?

38:07 Jenny McShane I think about three years ago.

38:09 Drew When she was 15? Yeah. Mike, there's something more here.

38:11 Jenny McShane Where's her dad?

38:13 Jenny McShane She's all fine to her. No. She's family's all together.

38:15 Drew No.

38:15 Jenny McShane Brothers, father, mother, all together.

38:17 Drew How many brothers?

38:18 Jenny McShane Two.

38:19 Jenny McShane Right.

38:19 Drew What are they like?

38:20 Jenny McShane Rapists.

38:21 Jenny McShane No, they're normal.

38:22 Drew I don't know, Mike. Listen, for a 15-year-old to start acting out like that, that's not healthy. It means something. Now, maybe she was depressed. Was she doing drugs then or something?

38:32 Jenny McShane No, no drugs at all.

38:33 Drew Any alcohols in the family?

38:35 Adam No.

38:36 Drew Yeah.

38:37 Jenny McShane OK, listen, Mike doesn't know. She doesn't live in the same state he lives in. Mike, listen to me.

38:43 Jenny McShane What?

38:44 Jenny McShane Brother. See, when I use brother, it means it's really time to listen. That's a wrestler's talk.

38:48 Drew But she lives in Oregon. I want to know.

38:50 Jenny McShane Oh, wherever. You're right. OK. Here's the deal.

38:54 Jenny McShane OK.

38:55 Jenny McShane You're getting engaged to this woman. You don't know her that well. And you're doomed. Do you hear me?

39:00 Jenny McShane I know her a lot. I know her.

39:01 Jenny McShane OK. OK. Slow down. And don't hurry up and get married just so you can get laid.

39:06 Drew Does she have any kids?

39:07 Jenny McShane No.

39:08 Jenny McShane OK, Mike. Just take it slow. Keep your eyes open. You don't want to get married too quick.

39:13 Jenny McShane We planned it about a year, a year and a half.

39:15 Jenny McShane OK. So you'll be upgraded from moron to idiot at that point and perfectly ready to make a decision like this. What are you doing with your life?

39:24 Jenny McShane Trying to be a writer.

39:26 Jenny McShane It'll never work.

39:27 Jenny McShane What?

39:27 Jenny McShane Thanks a lot, man.

39:29 Jenny McShane You're no Stephen J.

39:31 Adam Cannell. I'll tell you that.

39:33 Jenny McShane You could never write about how a guy was framed for murder. He didn't commit. All right, Mike. Good luck. You're fine. Just take it slow. Don't get married too quick. All right. All right.

39:44 Drew Stay a virgin. That's fine.

39:45 Jenny McShane It's a weird thing. It's a weird gene. A lot of women complain about these guys that are bachelors and never want to settle down, so on and so forth, and a lot of guys are that way. But then there's a weird little subsection of guys that want to get married while they're in the 10th grade, and who've known the chicks since they were four months old, and they're really weird and possessive, and they want to get married, and they want to get engaged, and it's almost that they want somehow to play that role, almost like how women look at it. You know, a woman grows up, and they're five years old, and they're playing dress up, and they're planning their wedding, and they're doing all this kind of nonsense, almost grooming themselves for this day. There's a handful of guys that are that way. They're always really stupid, but there are a handful of guys that are that way, and I never understand it. It seems so against male. You know what I'm saying, Drew? What is that? I don't trust guys who don't act like guys. This is why I don't trust the gays, by the way. But you know what I'm saying? What is that?

40:53 Drew I think it's not about marriage for guys that do that. It's about clinging.

40:57 Jenny McShane Oh, clinging.

40:58 Drew And about feeling empty and needing a life preserver. And it's locking somebody into something.

41:04 Jenny McShane Afraid to be abandoned.

41:05 Drew Yeah.

41:05 Jenny McShane And there's something about hurrying up and becoming an adult, and somehow this makes you a man in an adult or something when you're 19. Or it's just hanging on.

41:14 Drew Just being controlled by other, yeah.

41:16 Jenny McShane Yeah, sort of. I'm halfway with you on that, but not completely, because I think these guys oftentimes aren't really super controlling guys.

41:25 Drew But clingy.

41:26 Jenny McShane Clingy, yes.

41:28 Drew And they usually fix it, guys. He was picking the girl who had all kinds of issues and stuff, right?

41:32 Jenny McShane Right. Yeah. Not fix it around the house, guys. Fix it around the brain, guys.

41:35 Drew Yeah. Fix the partner, guys. Right.

41:37 Jenny McShane How come fix-it guys can't fix anything, though?

41:40 Drew Fix anything around the house?

41:41 Jenny McShane Or around the brain.

41:43 Drew Because it's not the way people are fixed.

41:45 Jenny McShane They're more custodians than they are fixers. They just sweep up after there's a mess.

41:49 Drew Yeah.

41:50 Jenny McShane They're keepers. When the kids break in and vandalize the high school, they're the guys who just come in and clean the crap off the lockers. They don't actually do anything to prevent anything. All right. Now I got lost in my metaphors. I don't even know where we're at.

42:03 Drew We're at a break time.

42:05 Jenny McShane All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break and then we'll be back after this.

42:11 Jenny McShane Loveline, we'll be right back. Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.

42:53 Jenny McShane Oh, yeah.

42:53 Adam Here we go.

42:54 Jenny McShane Did you give me the finger there, Anderson?

42:56 Adam What do you know?

42:57 Jenny McShane Hey, it's Loveline, everybody. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. She's currently in The Watcher with James Spader, Keanu Reeves, and can also be found, well, not coming out for another few months, but the outlaws will be. Now, wait a minute. What's your part in Outlaws? When does that take place?

43:23 Jenny McShane It'll be out in six months. I play a con artist in that movie.

43:27 Jenny McShane Is it take place in current?

43:29 Jenny McShane It's current day. Current day, yeah.

43:31 Jenny McShane Yeah, that's what they call it. I got to get into some movies. I really do.

43:35 Jenny McShane That'll never happen.

43:36 Jenny McShane Give me a break. I was just sitting around thinking about this over the weekend. I decide I'm a good actor, maybe even great.

43:45 Jenny McShane Yeah, right.

43:48 Jenny McShane Well, just as good as any of these other idiot comedic actors out there that everyone thinks are so amazing. But here's my point. You don't get to do anything unless you've done it before.

43:59 Drew Right.

44:00 Jenny McShane Then I started to think, what is it that I got to do career-wise, that anyone let me do? Then I thought nothing.

44:08 Drew What do you mean, let you do? You'd have to fight for it, scrap for it.

44:10 Jenny McShane Well, no, not even fight or scrap for it, but whether it's radio or the TV shows that I've done, I've been involved with. I didn't get cast to do anything. I've never been cast to do anything or the radio or anything.

44:23 Drew You refused to go to casting.

44:24 Jenny McShane That's right. I don't do auditions, but screw them anyway. Here's my point. I think I'm going to have to write a movie, and then I can get into a movie.

44:32 Drew There you go.

44:32 Jenny McShane That's what I'm going to have to do.

44:34 Drew Somebody came up to me at the Big Brother Rap Party last night and said, Oh, yeah, it was an AD and that lousy movie you guys did went straight to video.

44:42 Jenny McShane Which one?

44:43 Drew That one with the Brooke Shields.

44:44 Adam Oh, yeah.

44:45 Jenny McShane Somebody said they rented that.

44:47 Drew I said, What happened there? It went straight to video.

44:49 Jenny McShane It wasn't that bad a movie. I saw it. I don't know what that movie was. It's a Brooke Shields and I don't know who else.

44:55 Drew Something Ever After or something?

44:56 Jenny McShane We get trapped on an island.

44:58 Jenny McShane Both of you guys were on it?

44:59 Drew Yeah.

45:00 Jenny McShane Yeah, we play ourselves.

45:01 Drew Play ourselves yelling at each other.

45:02 Jenny McShane Yeah. Oh, I'm in Down to You 2.

45:04 Drew What?

45:05 Jenny McShane That Freddie Prinze Jr. movie.

45:06 Drew Oh, right. But really, we were in a lot of this film, right?

45:10 Jenny McShane Yeah, a lot. OK, there's this new Brooke Shields movie that's not too new.

45:15 Drew We can't remember the movie.

45:15 Jenny McShane We don't know the name of it.

45:17 Drew We've never seen it. You've seen it. I've never seen it.

45:19 Jenny McShane Go rent a Brooke Shields movie.

45:21 Drew A new one.

45:22 Jenny McShane Her newest movie.

45:23 Drew About dating or something.

45:24 Jenny McShane It's about dating. Maybe it is. It's not called Black and White.

45:29 Adam No.

45:29 Jenny McShane OK, any other Brooke Shields titles that it's not? Anderson, you want to blurt out?

45:33 Adam No.

45:34 Jenny McShane Sure. OK.

45:35 Jenny McShane That's her newest one that anyone knows.

45:37 Jenny McShane Oh, Black and White?

45:38 Drew Well, no one knows this one.

45:38 Jenny McShane And it's not that one?

45:40 Jenny McShane No, unless you look at Mike Tyson.

45:42 Jenny McShane Oh, Mike.

45:43 Drew Oh, no, no. It was actually after that.

45:46 Jenny McShane OK. Well, anyway, here's the point. We're in it, and it's not a bad movie. I watched the entire movie. And usually when I'm in a movie, I fast forward to my parts.

45:54 Drew We're in the whole damn thing.

45:56 Jenny McShane I know. I just fast forward the eight minutes in between. We're not in it. I would go to my part and your part.

46:01 Jenny McShane So wait, you guys are trapped on an island with Brooke Shields? That sounds pretty good.

46:05 Jenny McShane It's Blue Lagoon 8. It's called the, uh, Alan. Very Blue Lagoon. Very Blue Lagoon.

46:12 Adam Yeah. Alan?

46:14 Jenny McShane Yeah.

46:14 Jenny McShane You're 29. What's up?

46:16 Jenny McShane Hey, I just have a question for Dr. Drew about depression.

46:19 Drew Yeah.

46:21 Jenny McShane Would that be something that I could go to my family doctor about and ask him? Or do I need to go to like a...

46:28 Drew No, you can start with your primary caretaker. But what's the situation? Is it just simply a depression or are there other things going on?

46:36 Jenny McShane Well, I'd say my depression comes from the fact that my wife is addicted to meth.

46:44 Drew Has she ever been treated?

46:47 Jenny McShane No, not for meth.

46:48 Drew What has she been treated for?

46:51 Jenny McShane Well, she went for cocaine before I knew her, and also for alcoholism probably about six years ago.

46:59 Drew So she's been through two previous treatment programs, right?

47:03 Jenny McShane Correct.

47:04 Drew Have you ever gone to Al-Anon?

47:06 Jenny McShane No, I haven't. All right.

47:08 Drew You have to go. If you expect her to get better, you have to get better too. And so for starters, you have to go to Al-Anon. Then once you have enough support there and are working a program with the sponsor, then you need to set some firm limits with her, require her to start participating in her own treatment. And if your mood is still out of control, you still have issues with your affect, do you smoke a lot of pot yourself?

47:29 Jenny McShane I don't do any drugs at all.

47:30 Drew Okay. If you have issues with your moods, talk to your family doctors for starters. But if you get all that in place, yes, family doctor can probably advise you on how to stabilize your mood.

47:39 Jenny McShane How much meth is she doing?

47:41 Jenny McShane Let's see, it's over $100 a week.

47:43 Jenny McShane Yeah.

47:44 Drew Is she smoking it or snorting it?

47:46 Jenny McShane What's that?

47:47 Drew Is she smoking it?

47:49 Jenny McShane Both, smoke and snort.

47:50 Jenny McShane As if women weren't crazy enough, now this, right?

47:53 Jenny McShane I'm telling you.

47:54 Jenny McShane Oh, my God.

47:55 Jenny McShane I have kids, too, and, you know, I mean, they know that she's kind of different, but they don't know what it is.

48:04 Drew Do not protect her from falling flat on her face. If there's police, whatever you can do to get her to hit a bottom, let it happen.

48:12 Jenny McShane How old are the kids?

48:13 Jenny McShane Oh, I have, they're 12, 15, and 6.

48:17 Drew Oh, boy.

48:19 Jenny McShane Yeah, important, there are three kids, huh? Couldn't just screw up one? Had to go for the trifecta?

48:25 Jenny McShane I'm helping with somebody else's, actually.

48:27 Adam Uh-oh.

48:28 Jenny McShane The youngest one's mine.

48:29 Jenny McShane I see.

48:30 Adam Oh, boy.

48:31 Jenny McShane All right, hey, Alan.

48:32 Jenny McShane She wants to get help, too.

48:33 Drew Good. Take her to the program right now.

48:35 Jenny McShane Get her help.

48:36 Drew You get involved. Where do you live? Ventura County. Ventura County? I'll give you a number, 626.

48:44 Jenny McShane Well, let him grab a pad.

48:45 Drew Ready? Yeah, go ahead. 356-2671.

48:50 Jenny McShane That's your home number?

48:51 Drew It's the hospital.

48:52 Jenny McShane 626.

48:53 Drew 626-356-2671. All right? OK.

49:01 Jenny McShane Tell them Drew sent you.

49:02 Drew Yep.

49:03 Jenny McShane Really?

49:03 Drew Yeah.

49:03 Adam And what did they get?

49:05 Jenny McShane Five percent off their next visit for meth detox? Oh, imagine what the carpet that guy's place looks like. Got a meth freak for. Well, at least she's cleaning. You get high on meth. You don't do a lot of cleaning.

49:21 Drew Some people do.

49:22 Jenny McShane I wish my mom would have got into a little meth.

49:24 Drew As opposed to pot.

49:25 Jenny McShane As opposed to weed. Hey, mom, you're going to come out of your room and cook something? Freak out. OK, great. Hey, mom, I'm going to slide a little meth under the door. OK, even you out a little so you can get you to the market, maybe off your ass a little bit. You want that? Are you still checking the biorhythms? Extra critical day? Wasn't yesterday extra critical?

49:47 Drew Was she talking about that stuff? Oh, my God.

49:49 Jenny McShane Oh, did I use the F word there? I think I just laughed. That's right, Anderson. My mom was into this biorhythm. My mom, let me tell you what people, let me tell you what people don't want to work do. They sit around and figure out reasons why they can't work. And that's what the biorhythm wheel is. It's like, hey, yeah.

50:06 Drew Well, you don't work and you want to smoke pot.

50:09 Jenny McShane You don't work, you smoke weed, and then you check the biorhythm wheel. The biorhythm wheel is basically, it's like one step more retarded than astrology. It's kind of the thinking man's astrology. It's astrology meets mechanics in a way. There's actually like a wheel and you check your biorhythm. And you know, my mom would be like, oh, I'm having an extra critical day. And I'm like, so you want me to go out to the mailbox and get the welfare check today, or you're going to be able to make it? It's like, where are you going? You're not doing anything. Who cares? Every day is an extra critical day. You're locked in your room. Where are you going? Extra critical day. This biorhythm, is this even around anymore?

50:51 Drew Well, the problem is people that don't want to deal with their mental health issues find a zillion million trillion reasons.

50:57 Jenny McShane I was yelling about this to a friend of mine the other day and I used you as an example. I said, you think Drew ever checks his biorhythm to see if he's having an extra critical day or is he just at work?

51:06 Drew No, I'm just at work.

51:07 Jenny McShane That's right. That's what people do. Although you're unhealthy in your own way, at least you get a payday. All right, we'll take ourselves a little break. Oh, Christ, oh, my mom's not listening to this show. Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. You can find her in The Watcher, which is currently out at theaters. And we'll take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Seth. He's 18, he found out his girlfriend is pregnant from another guy.

51:32 Jenny McShane Wants to know what to do after this.

51:35 Jenny McShane Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, we'll be right back.

52:30 Jenny McShane Shandala, shandala, shandala. Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. McShane is an Irish name.

52:43 Jenny McShane Yes, it is.

52:44 Jenny McShane Yes, that means lush. Does it mean anything?

52:50 Drew I think that would be Scottish.

52:51 Jenny McShane A Scottish?

52:52 Drew It was a Scottish.

52:53 Jenny McShane Warrior Princess Alcoholic. What does that mean? Does it mean anything?

52:58 Jenny McShane McShane?

52:59 Jenny McShane Yeah, it didn't mean anything.

53:01 Jenny McShane Not that I know of, but I did a TV show a little while back, and the guy said it means son of Shane. I'm like, whatever that is.

53:09 Jenny McShane That's what I thought it meant.

53:10 Drew It's son of something. McShane. Of Shane.

53:14 Jenny McShane I guess Mick is son. So then the next part of Mick is what your family name is.

53:22 Jenny McShane Right. It's also an Irish slang thing, right?

53:25 Adam Mick. It's called Mick.

53:27 Jenny McShane Is that the Mick? Is that that Mick? Is that MC or is it MI?

53:31 Drew MC. MC.

53:31 Adam Yeah. Mick.

53:32 Jenny McShane That's not so bad. They got a problem with that. It's short for Mick Shane. All right. The Watcher is the name of the movie that Mick Shane can be found in, and also the outlaws coming up soon. If you got the TNN and you like to watch reruns, look for Renegade.

53:49 Jenny McShane And Shark Attack is on HBO right now, too, with Casper Vandean is coming out in the Titans.

53:55 Jenny McShane The Casper, Casper Tarzan Casper?

53:59 Jenny McShane Yeah. I brought you guys some posters, too, for Shark Attack.

54:01 Jenny McShane Yeah. When is that Shark Attack coming out?

54:03 Jenny McShane It's been on HBO all summer and it's still playing, I believe. So it has Ernie Hudson in it, too, who's also in The Watcher with me, which is great.

54:11 Jenny McShane Oh, wait a minute.

54:13 Jenny McShane Wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute.

54:15 Jenny McShane Did I see Shark Attack? Well, explain Shark Attack to me. See if I know this one.

54:20 Jenny McShane Casper and I play marine biologists who are trying to figure out why these sharks are attacking and we filmed it in South Africa and we scuba dived half the movie.

54:28 Jenny McShane Nice. A lot of stuff for you paddling around in a two-piece, like underwater?

54:33 Jenny McShane There's a lot of two-piece, but mostly it's a wetsuit underneath. It's kind of like, I guess, the deep.

54:39 Jenny McShane Oh, like a white t-shirt kind of stuff? That was the most pornography I ever saw. Remember when Jacqueline Bessette got out of the ocean there with just a white t-shirt and you could see her nipples showing through? That was as much pornography as we had kids. Yeah, times were tough.

54:59 Drew We had Sex in the Cities.

55:01 Jenny McShane Sex in the Cities?

55:02 Drew Was showing in our house tonight, and I got like upset.

55:05 Jenny McShane Tiddle-laden?

55:06 Drew No, it was like overt stuff. I thought, I got to keep the kids at the back of the house. They can't come this end of the house while this thing is on the TV. This is ridiculous.

55:16 Jenny McShane Well, what do you want? It's cable, Drew, for Christ's sake.

55:19 Drew They use the F word? They use the F word?

55:21 Jenny McShane Oh, no, listen.

55:24 Drew Nudity, full frontal nudity.

55:25 Jenny McShane You want those two boys to go gay on you? You start showing them some nudity and teach them the F word. That's one of the first words I learned.

55:32 Drew There's masturbation, male and female.

55:34 Jenny McShane Again, couldn't hoit.

55:35 Drew Come on, don't be such a pussy.

55:37 Jenny McShane They're all, they're gonna be into it soon if they're not already into it already, Drew. Seth?

55:41 Jenny McShane Yes?

55:42 Jenny McShane You're 18?

55:43 Jenny McShane That's right.

55:43 Jenny McShane What's up?

55:44 Jenny McShane Well, I'm concerned about my girlfriend. She is, I think she is pregnant. She hasn't taken a test yet. But the thing is, it's not mine.

55:56 Adam And I think-

55:57 Drew How far along is she?

55:59 Jenny McShane Well, she missed her month, her period.

56:03 Jenny McShane And why don't you think it's yours?

56:06 Jenny McShane Well, because before she went out with me, she was with someone else.

56:09 Adam Aha.

56:10 Drew Yeah. And so why don't you think it's yours?

56:12 Jenny McShane Because we haven't had any sexual relationship.

56:14 Drew Okay. That would be the right answer there. Yeah. Because it's impossible.

56:18 Jenny McShane And I have no idea what to do.

56:21 Jenny McShane And guys will skirt that I'm not getting laid issue.

56:26 Drew Any way they can.

56:27 Jenny McShane Any way they possibly can. And we'll work in the getting laid conversation into any conversation is what I found out.

56:37 Drew Yeah. And why doesn't she get the pregnancy test?

56:40 Jenny McShane Well, she's not getting it yet, but she...

56:42 Drew Why not?

56:42 Jenny McShane Well, because she's been throwing up and...

56:46 Drew Why doesn't she get the pregnancy test?

56:47 Jenny McShane Well, she's getting that soon.

56:49 Drew Why hasn't she had one yet?

56:51 Jenny McShane I just found out a few days ago.

56:52 Drew Why hasn't she gone and had a pregnancy test yet?

56:55 Jenny McShane She's been afraid.

56:57 Drew Okay.

56:57 Jenny McShane All right. Good. And it only took eight tries, Seth. You're really coming around.

57:01 Jenny McShane Well, I don't know what to do.

57:03 Adam Okay.

57:04 Jenny McShane Well, here's the deal. She's going to have to first establish whether she's pregnant or not. And let's just say she is, right? Because if she's not pregnant, it's not like you're going to have to call back, right?

57:16 Adam Yeah.

57:16 Jenny McShane All right. So how do you... What do you think she wants to do if she was pregnant?

57:21 Drew Because it isn't your decision. It's hers.

57:23 Jenny McShane Right. You think she'd want to give the baby up for adoption or have an abortion or sell it, perhaps?

57:28 Jenny McShane No. She'd raise it.

57:29 Jenny McShane She would raise it. And what would you do then?

57:34 Jenny McShane I have no idea what I'm going to do. I've never been in this situation before.

57:37 Jenny McShane You haven't raised someone else's kid before?

57:39 Jenny McShane No.

57:39 Adam It's no big deal.

57:40 Jenny McShane I got six. Do you really?

57:43 Adam Well, they're not mine.

57:44 Jenny McShane They're all from different women. Yeah. Hey, Seth, how long have you two been together?

57:49 Adam Less than a month.

57:50 Jenny McShane Less than a month? That's right.

57:52 Adam Yeah.

57:52 Jenny McShane You may be in a little over your head here. You haven't had sex yet. I'll tell you what.

57:56 Drew She's probably still hooked up with the other guy.

57:58 Jenny McShane Seth, here's the deal. If she's pregnant, break it off.

58:02 Drew Why?

58:03 Jenny McShane That's too early.

58:03 Drew It's cruel to her. I mean, he wants to support.

58:05 Jenny McShane Why?

58:05 Jenny McShane He's just in. You know what I mean? All right. Hold on a second. He hasn't consummated the relationship yet. They haven't had sex. They're barely into it. It's probably not that.

58:15 Drew Well, maybe back off.

58:16 Jenny McShane OK. Now hold on a second. This is a woman who has sex.

58:19 Drew Yes. OK.

58:21 Jenny McShane Now, she's been with Seth for a month and has not had sex with him. This is the kind of gal who probably has sex often and early, I would say. So here's my point. What does she think of Seth?

58:34 Drew Hostage.

58:35 Jenny McShane Yeah. She's not looking at him like a real boy.

58:37 Drew I mean, looking at somebody to help her out in time of need, that's all. But then again, why should we prevent that from happening? I mean, that's...

58:44 Jenny McShane From her taking a hostage?

58:45 Drew No, from her having a friend. We tell them to back off and not think of this as a girlfriend thing.

58:50 Jenny McShane Well, that's what I mean.

58:51 Jenny McShane But that's not going to work.

58:51 Jenny McShane Hey, Seth, why haven't you had sex with her?

58:55 Jenny McShane Well, it's too early in the relationship.

58:57 Jenny McShane Too early?

58:57 Jenny McShane That's right.

58:58 Jenny McShane And you're a virgin?

59:01 Jenny McShane Yes, I am. Yeah.

59:03 Jenny McShane Shocking. I like him.

59:05 Jenny McShane And she's had a couple of partners?

59:08 Jenny McShane I believe so.

59:09 Jenny McShane And you're sure she looks at you as a boyfriend?

59:11 Jenny McShane Yeah.

59:12 Jenny McShane She does?

59:13 Jenny McShane Yeah, definitely.

59:14 Drew She said, we're going to be conclusive. You're my boyfriend.

59:17 Jenny McShane Yeah.

59:18 Jenny McShane So she said, if I'm pregnant, you're definitely my boyfriend.

59:21 Jenny McShane Yeah.

59:21 Jenny McShane And if not, we're just friends.

59:23 Jenny McShane Right?

59:24 Jenny McShane Yes.

59:24 Jenny McShane I see.

59:25 Jenny McShane And what have you done? Have you kissed her?

59:28 Jenny McShane Yeah.

59:28 Jenny McShane With your tongue out?

59:30 Jenny McShane Of course.

59:30 Jenny McShane Yeah. So you know what I do? My techniques, I move the tongue outside of the mouth. I put the lips and then the tongue goes around, like around the nose and the chin.

59:40 Jenny McShane So what's the response from that?

59:42 Jenny McShane Oh, the guy's dick.

59:43 Adam I mean, the legs.

59:45 Jenny McShane I mean, the legs. I mean, the legs. I mean, the gals.

59:48 Jenny McShane Seth?

59:49 Jenny McShane Yes. Okay. Just take it slow and be careful. I know not that many people have shown that much interest in you over the years.

59:56 Jenny McShane Oh, yes, I have.

59:56 Jenny McShane How can you say that?

59:57 Jenny McShane I know. He's a virgin. I can hear it in his voice. Listen, Seth, let me explain something to you. Okay. You're talking to a guy. Now, I hope you're sitting down. You did not get laid a lot in high school. Okay? Okay. Okay. But then, then I began my lucrative carpet cleaning career and I still didn't get laid. But here's the good part. I got into construction after that and guess what? Still didn't get laid. But here's the better part. That only went on for 14 years. Okay? Okay. Okay. Now, a Mr. Semi-Popular and literally a millionaire, right, Drew?

1:00:35 Drew B slash C.

1:00:36 Jenny McShane Whatever. As called by his own producer of the Man Show, the great Daniel Kellison, a B slash C celebrity who could probably date B slash C slash D celebrity women if he needed to. So here's the point. I wasn't stupid. I didn't adopt this crazy chick's pregnant whatever when I was 18. And you gotta keep your eyes open, Seth. Just take it slow.

1:01:01 Drew Okay.

1:01:01 Jenny McShane Don't get trapped into this thing. All right. Seth strikes me as a guy so excited that someone likes him.

1:01:07 Drew Well, there's something special about her. This is not a kind of woman that's been interested in him before. You know what I mean? He's in a new territory with this one.

1:01:17 Jenny McShane Right. She's breathing.

1:01:19 Drew No.

1:01:19 Jenny McShane She's not the beanbag cherry. He's been raping everything.

1:01:21 Drew He's probably a popular attractor or something that he's not been having access to.

1:01:24 Jenny McShane Why don't you say it's somebody?

1:01:26 Adam Yeah.

1:01:26 Jenny McShane You know what I'm talking about?

1:01:28 Adam Yeah.

1:01:29 Jenny McShane Jenny, you don't know what we're talking about. You're always very beautiful, weren't you? Yeah. That's got to be tough.

1:01:37 Drew It's got to be the tomboy story too, though.

1:01:38 Adam Yeah.

1:01:38 Jenny McShane There is. There's definitely the tomboy story.

1:01:40 Jenny McShane You didn't have a date to the prom?

1:01:43 Adam Yeah.

1:01:43 Jenny McShane It's got to be rough. Now, you're fine, right? You never had any problems with the boys, right?

1:01:48 Jenny McShane I dated the same guy all through high school.

1:01:51 Adam You did?

1:01:51 Jenny McShane Yeah. Same teacher?

1:01:53 Jenny McShane Yeah. The teacher. The teacher. Where did you grow up?

1:01:56 Jenny McShane Mr. Bernal.

1:01:57 Jenny McShane I grew up in a 500-acre pig farm in Minnesota.

1:02:00 Jenny McShane Nice.

1:02:01 Drew Where's your accent?

1:02:03 Jenny McShane It's kind of-

1:02:03 Drew The only Minnesota one without an accent.

1:02:05 Jenny McShane Minnesota? Out? How would I say out?

1:02:08 Jenny McShane Oot. Oot.

1:02:09 Jenny McShane Yeah. We were talking about this last week with a Minnesota guest we had in here. Brittany from-

1:02:16 Drew Big Brother.

1:02:16 Jenny McShane Big Brother. There you go. I had a few girlfriends that were from Minnesota. I've declared them all legally insane.

1:02:23 Jenny McShane Why?

1:02:24 Jenny McShane A lot of nutty chicks from Minnesota. Crazy.

1:02:27 Jenny McShane There's a lot of place to run there.

1:02:29 Adam Yeah. What is it?

1:02:31 Jenny McShane You're a little nutty too that way, right?

1:02:32 Jenny McShane No, I'm not. There's so much freedom. There's so much room there. You come out here and you feel like you're trapped.

1:02:38 Jenny McShane So you go nuts when you get here. So you're saying if you're on your home turf, you wouldn't be insane?

1:02:42 Jenny McShane I'm fine. Yeah. My home turf, I'm fine.

1:02:45 Jenny McShane Okay. I'm all for two in Minnesota. John, you're 15?

1:02:52 Jenny McShane I'm actually 13.

1:02:55 Drew 13.

1:02:55 Jenny McShane Fantastic.

1:02:56 Jenny McShane I was wondering what the average male penis size was.

1:02:59 Jenny McShane Flaccid or erect?

1:03:01 Jenny McShane Erect.

1:03:02 Jenny McShane Erect is nine and a half and I think flaccid is like six or six and a quarter or something. I don't have it in front of me.

1:03:10 Jenny McShane Okay.

1:03:11 Jenny McShane Okay.

1:03:12 Drew Wait, wait, wait. Give an answer.

1:03:14 Jenny McShane What are you, John?

1:03:15 Jenny McShane Excuse me?

1:03:16 Jenny McShane What size are you?

1:03:17 Jenny McShane Erect is six.

1:03:21 Drew That's above average.

1:03:22 Jenny McShane Well, you're only 13. So what?

1:03:25 Drew Eight more years?

1:03:25 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:03:26 Jenny McShane Eight years you could do a three and a half inches, get up to average. No problem there.

1:03:29 Drew You're above average, John, right?

1:03:31 Jenny McShane No, I said average is nine and a half.

1:03:32 Drew I know you said that.

1:03:33 Jenny McShane That's nine and a half erect. Did you say flaccid or erect, John?

1:03:36 Jenny McShane Erect.

1:03:37 Jenny McShane Oh, yeah. That's bad news. But you're just 13, right?

1:03:42 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:03:42 Jenny McShane Yes. You got some time. Please. You're still growing.

1:03:44 Drew Just answer. Wait, wait, wait.

1:03:46 Jenny McShane I'll leave him alone.

1:03:47 Jenny McShane Who cares?

1:03:49 Drew You're above average.

1:03:49 Adam Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:03:52 Drew He's above average.

1:03:53 Jenny McShane It's a damn lie and you know it.

1:03:56 Jenny McShane He just want to say-

1:03:56 Drew Well, what about you?...

1:03:57 Jenny McShane Johnson was six inches.

1:03:59 Drew If he's not above average, if nine and a half is average, Adam, please, come on.

1:04:03 Jenny McShane Hold on. I have two things to say to you.

1:04:07 Jenny McShane The first thing is, how dare you?

1:04:11 Jenny McShane And the second is, how dare you bring up my penis size in front of our lovely guest?

1:04:17 Drew I didn't bring up the size in front of the lack of size. The lack of size.

1:04:21 Jenny McShane How dare you?

1:04:21 Drew The absence of size. If nine and a half is average.

1:04:24 Jenny McShane I have one of the most functional penises I know.

1:04:28 Drew Mechanical.

1:04:30 Jenny McShane It's like a Swiss timepiece, really. I have the Toyota Camry of penises.

1:04:35 Drew The penis ninja version.

1:04:38 Jenny McShane Very reliable.

1:04:39 Drew The penis is very dysfunctional, yes, indeed. Where are we going tonight?

1:04:46 Jenny McShane I don't know. You know, I was thinking of my penis. You know my penis? Remember Steve Largent, the NFL receiver played for Seattle all those years? Oh, for Christ. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Oh, for Christ's sake.

1:04:57 Drew It must have been in the 80s.

1:04:59 Jenny McShane The guy led the NFL in receptions. It was just Jerry Rice beat him like two years ago. He was the NFL's all-time reception leader. He's a senator now. Steve Largent? What the?

1:05:12 Drew How can I do it? Was it not in the 80s and early 90s?

1:05:15 Jenny McShane It doesn't. Huh?

1:05:16 Drew Must have been 80s, early 90s.

1:05:17 Jenny McShane I don't care.

1:05:18 Jenny McShane What state is he the senator for?

1:05:20 Jenny McShane Well, he played all those years in Seattle. I don't know. Maybe it is in Washington. Is it Washington? I got a whole room of people know Steve Largent is. Jesus Christ. What happened to you?

1:05:31 Drew I told you those 12 years were cut out of my life.

1:05:35 Jenny McShane Surgically? What happened? When you get home, would you get corralled to like a big pickle jar that you get that?

1:05:42 Drew No. For years and years and years, I didn't go home. I didn't see a television. The television was about to be in a patient's hospital room.

1:05:49 Jenny McShane Oh, how dare you.

1:05:50 Drew So I'd see like 5 a.m. morning.

1:05:51 Adam Oh, please. All right.

1:05:53 Jenny McShane Well, forget it. I can't do a show with you. Kim, you see, here's my point, everyone. I had a point to make that I was going to use Steve Largent as a reference for, but it's as completely out the window now. Well, these are wonderful stories. There's another guy you've never heard of, Drew. Oh, by the way, I've seen on TV every single night since we brought this up, every night. Tonight, Huel Hauser was, let's see, last night, he was down at the train station in Union Station in LA, and tonight, where the hell was he? Jesus Christ, the guy's probably been to your house three or four times, Drew. Kim? Kim?

1:06:34 Drew 90 minutes, probably asleep. Kim?

1:06:42 Jenny McShane No. Sounds like she's at the ocean.

1:06:45 Jenny McShane All right.

1:06:46 Jenny McShane Let's talk to Rich.

1:06:47 Jenny McShane Rich?

1:06:48 Drew Yeah.

1:06:49 Jenny McShane Rich.

1:06:50 Adam Yeah.

1:06:50 Jenny McShane You're 29.

1:06:51 Adam Yeah.

1:06:52 Drew Save us, Rich.

1:06:52 Jenny McShane You smoke weed all day, right? You know Steve Largen is?

1:06:56 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:06:57 Jenny McShane And you're chronic pot smoker?

1:07:00 Jenny McShane Really?

1:07:01 Adam Yeah.

1:07:01 Jenny McShane Interesting. Interesting. Well, anyway.

1:07:04 Jenny McShane What state is he the senator for?

1:07:07 Jenny McShane I guess Washington state. Oh, I'm sorry.

1:07:09 Jenny McShane He said he has no idea.

1:07:12 Adam Yeah.

1:07:12 Jenny McShane Well, you know he's an NFL great, right?

1:07:14 Adam Yeah. Okay.

1:07:15 Jenny McShane Where are you calling from?

1:07:16 Jenny McShane Kirkwood, California.

1:07:18 Adam Beautiful.

1:07:19 Jenny McShane So what's up?

1:07:22 Jenny McShane Even when I smoke pot, it's so I think about it all the time when I don't smoke it. First thing I do when I wake up is I smoke it.

1:07:33 Drew You're addicted. It's a common thing.

1:07:34 Jenny McShane Definitely. But they say it's not an addictive, but it's a general problem then?

1:07:38 Drew No, it's addictive. It's addictive for a subset of people with a family history of alcoholism. Yep.

1:07:43 Jenny McShane I got that.

1:07:43 Drew I treat it every day. It's probably the most common addiction I have to treat, and I run addiction recovery program.

1:07:48 Jenny McShane Okay. So when people want to quit, does that mean they got to go to rehab center?

1:07:51 Drew You got to go to some kind of treatment. You will not stop without it.

1:07:54 Jenny McShane That's the thing. Even though it's like, it's like I know I should quit because I smoke too much.

1:07:58 Drew Rich, if all I had to do is convince you to stop, then I'd convince you to stop, but you want to stop and you can't. Yeah. The depression you're going to get into for several months is rather profound, so you got to be really careful.

1:08:09 Jenny McShane Why does that happen?

1:08:10 Drew Because this is a drug and it injures your brain. Your brain has been affected by this drug for years, and it injures it. It's not fortunate, not a bad injury, it tends to get better, but you will get depressed and people get panic attacks and all sorts of weird stuff.

1:08:24 Jenny McShane What do you do, Rich?

1:08:25 Jenny McShane I work at a ski resort.

1:08:27 Jenny McShane A ski resort?

1:08:28 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:08:29 Jenny McShane How many months out of the year does that keep you busy?

1:08:31 Jenny McShane Like six, and then I pound nails the other six.

1:08:34 Adam I see.

1:08:34 Jenny McShane Into the same piece of wood or you move around?

1:08:36 Jenny McShane I try to move around as much as possible.

1:08:38 Jenny McShane You're a carpenter?

1:08:39 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:08:40 Adam What do you do, framing?

1:08:42 Jenny McShane We do remodeling inside the house.

1:08:44 Jenny McShane You do the inside of the house?

1:08:45 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:08:46 Jenny McShane Make them look all fancy.

1:08:47 Jenny McShane I see. I used to specialize in the middle part of the house, not the outside, not the inside. But that little wall space, in between, the outside and the inside, that 3.5 inches, thickness of the stud.

1:08:58 Drew That was your specialty space?

1:09:00 Jenny McShane Yeah. Middlemen, they called us. Hey, you want to quiz me, Rich?

1:09:04 Jenny McShane What that?

1:09:04 Jenny McShane You got any carpentry quiz me? You want to quiz me?

1:09:07 Jenny McShane No, I don't want to quiz you.

1:09:08 Jenny McShane You don't want to stump me?

1:09:09 Drew No. Try to stump him. Come on. I always find this...

1:09:11 Jenny McShane Here's my question. If I'm going to quit smoking pot, is it really necessary to go to a rehab center?

1:09:16 Drew It's necessary to get some kind of treatment. You can start with MA, just get a referral from the phone book from AA, where a Marijuana Anonymous meeting is, but because the depressions can be so serious, I do recommend you see a physician who's used to treating this who can follow you and help you with the depression and decide whether or not you need some more formal treatment for this.

1:09:33 Jenny McShane Okay. So how do I go about doing this? Because I ain't got...

1:09:37 Drew Just call MA. Call Marijuana Anonymous.

1:09:38 Jenny McShane Don't use the S word. All right. Your last chance to try to stump me with a carpenter question.

1:09:45 Drew Rich?

1:09:45 Jenny McShane Anything, Rich? Framing? Maybe a framing question?

1:09:48 Jenny McShane How do you polish granite?

1:09:50 Jenny McShane The hell kind of carpenter question is that?

1:09:52 Jenny McShane How do you polish granite?

1:09:53 Jenny McShane It's a masonry question.

1:09:54 Jenny McShane Well, if you do granite fireplaces, granite... Granite... Everybody wants granite in their house.

1:09:58 Jenny McShane Okay. All right. Hey, you're smoking way too much pot.

1:10:00 Jenny McShane Hey, I'm trying to stump you here, man. What's up?

1:10:02 Jenny McShane I said with a carpenter question. You're giving me a masonry question. All right.

1:10:08 Jenny McShane Why do you call MA if I even want to quit?

1:10:10 Jenny McShane Yes.

1:10:11 Drew He's not a carpenter.

1:10:12 Jenny McShane All right. Here's the deal. Why is it almost near impossible to get any form of satisfaction out of anyone who calls this show on any level, even the simplest?

1:10:22 Jenny McShane How far do you put Studs apart?

1:10:25 Jenny McShane Sixteen on center.

1:10:26 Drew But you're the man, you see.

1:10:30 Jenny McShane How's that it?

1:10:31 Drew You've not even joined me in that role.

1:10:33 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:10:34 Drew So it used to be just me, everything was no.

1:10:36 Jenny McShane I see. Now I've joined the no role?

1:10:37 Drew Because you are literally a millionaire now, so you promoted that so effectively.

1:10:41 Jenny McShane Let me explain the layout with Studs, Choices and Rafters. Here's the deal, everybody. You can lay them out 16 on center, in the center of each one, from the center to the center 16 inches, or you can do them 24 on center. The reason it's got to be one of those two is so your eight foot sheet of drywall or eight foot sheet of plywood lands half on when it gets to the next one.

1:11:07 Drew How do you decide whether it's 12 or 24 though? Is one a better quality?

1:11:11 Jenny McShane Well, you wouldn't go 24 on a wall. You'd go 16 on center on a wall, and you might go 24 on a roof rafter or ceiling joist or something like that. It was the kind of thing where if you're using 2 by 10s, you might go 16 on center. But if you're going 24 on center, you have to go 2 by 14. 2 by 16, something like that. See what I mean? It's the thickness of the wood.

1:11:32 Jenny McShane And what do you have to do before you put the drywall on?

1:11:35 Jenny McShane What do you have to do?

1:11:36 Jenny McShane To the studs.

1:11:38 Jenny McShane You don't have to do anything to the studs. Before you hang the sheetrock?

1:11:42 Jenny McShane Yes.

1:11:42 Jenny McShane Well, here's the deal. You'd have to put your insulation in. You'd have to put your electrical in. You'd have to get a framing inspection, and then you'd have to hang your sheetrock. There's nothing to do to the studs before you put the drywall on. You have to go with the treated bottom plate, either redwood or womanized lumber, so it wouldn't be screwed up by the weather termites. There's nothing to do to the studs before you hang the drywall. Oh.

1:12:05 Adam Why?

1:12:06 Jenny McShane Hewellhouser. Why?

1:12:07 Adam You have something?

1:12:08 Jenny McShane No, no, no. That's a good answer. I was just curious if you knew your stuff.

1:12:12 Adam Oh, yeah.

1:12:14 Jenny McShane I could tell you the nailing schedule for the drywall. I'd say six in. I'd go eight in the field and six on the seams. Maybe four on the seams. Thank you. Jessica?

1:12:24 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:12:25 Jenny McShane Here's a plate safe.

1:12:26 Jenny McShane Hi.

1:12:26 Jenny McShane You're 14.

1:12:27 Jenny McShane Right.

1:12:27 Adam What's up?

1:12:29 Jenny McShane I'm really obsessed with this guy and I've been obsessed with him for about a year and a half. And I wanted to know like if I should pursue him or should I give up or what?

1:12:40 Jenny McShane Well, try to stump me the carbon requirement.

1:12:43 Drew What? I don't understand why you'd want to pursue somebody that's not been responding to you for 18 months.

1:12:49 Jenny McShane Well, we were friends and everything in eighth grade last year. And like I was like flirting with him a lot and everything. And then this year over the summer, we didn't talk at all. And now like, well, I'm a little bit shy around him. So I don't say hi a lot or anything. But my locker is like right next to his. And so I don't know, like, I'm kind of scared to say hi because I'm afraid of what he might say. But I really like him a lot.

1:13:19 Drew Do you remember this? It isn't painful to hear this?

1:13:22 Adam Yeah.

1:13:22 Jenny McShane Listen, just Jenny, what would you do?

1:13:25 Jenny McShane I would do, I would not say hello to him, but do something to spark his attention. I mean, I don't know what you're involved in at school, but you know, do something spectacular. The guy's like, whoa, she's cool.

1:13:38 Jenny McShane That's horrible advice.

1:13:39 Jenny McShane Start a fire or something. No, not start a fire, something good.

1:13:43 Jenny McShane No, but listen, a guy doesn't need to be impressed. Women need to be impressed. Guys don't care.

1:13:47 Jenny McShane Sure they do.

1:13:48 Jenny McShane Okay, listen.

1:13:49 Jenny McShane Okay, when a guy sees a girl as a cheerleader and she's up there doing her stuff, he's not going to be like...

1:13:54 Drew In fact, they are scared of that. That's like, ooh, it's too much work.

1:13:57 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:13:58 Jenny McShane She's high maintenance. Okay, yeah, I get that all the time.

1:14:01 Jenny McShane I want someone with low self-esteem. I want a sleeper, something I can fix up. That's what they do.

1:14:06 Drew That's what guys do.

1:14:07 Jenny McShane No, seriously. Let me ask you, Drew, average high school guy. Okay. Now, one girl is captain of the Speech and Debate Club. She's on the Yale Leading Squad. She's a straight A student, and she's a president of the Madrinas Escaderos, which is the Spanish club, right? Friday dynamic, and she's the treasurer and vice president of school.

1:14:29 Drew You lost all the guys.

1:14:30 Jenny McShane There's another chick. Sorry.

1:14:32 Drew Three clubs ago, lost all the guys.

1:14:32 Jenny McShane There's another chick who's marginally better looking than she is, who does nothing.

1:14:37 Jenny McShane She's going to get all the guys.

1:14:39 Jenny McShane Who gets the dudes? The one who's marginally better, who does nothing.

1:14:43 Drew If she's injured in some way, it could go up even higher. You know what I mean? If she's got some sort of-

1:14:47 Jenny McShane Yeah, she can't run. Right. This is how guys think, because we're very pragmatic. Whereas you gals, you want the movers and the shakers. We want the layers and the shushers, not the shakers, the shushers. I like a woman who just sits still and be quiet.

1:15:09 Drew Jessica is obsessed with this guy. Adam, listen, she's obsessed with this guy. There's no relationship here. Well, to help, listen, you went through this at 14.

1:15:16 Jenny McShane I did not.

1:15:17 Jenny McShane See, if Jessica does what I advise her to do, you guys have to listen to this for a second. If she doesn't get the guy, she still has the cool thing that she sets out to do for herself.

1:15:26 Drew Yes, that I agree with.

1:15:27 Jenny McShane She's going to feel awesome no matter what.

1:15:29 Drew Eventually, she will be going after more appropriate people. Exactly.

1:15:34 Jenny McShane All right. So you're saying, if she wins the science fair this year, then what? What do you want her to do? Seriously, give her a concrete thing to do.

1:15:43 Jenny McShane Something that she likes to do and will make her aware to this person that she is in existence.

1:15:50 Drew But if this guy were the slightest bit into her already.

1:15:54 Jenny McShane She probably would know, hey Jessica? Yeah. Okay. Here's the deal. You know how if a guy was interested in you and you weren't interested in him, it wouldn't be that big a deal. Like it would just be flattering and move on. I mean, if he didn't bug you. If you found out a guy thought you were cute and was interested in you and you weren't interested in him, it would just be kind of flattering, right? Okay. He's going to feel the same way if he finds out that you're interested in him.

1:16:23 Drew As long as you don't bug him.

1:16:24 Jenny McShane He's not going to make fun of you. He's not going to laugh about it. He's going to be kind of flattered and think it's kind of cool, and maybe he'll like you and maybe he won't. But it's no big deal. Just think about how you would feel. That's how he'll feel. So if you want to just say hi to him, just say hi to him. Okay. But don't build the volcanoes and blow them up during lunch or anything like that. I don't agree with you any other way.

1:16:46 Drew And don't obsess about this. It either is real or it isn't. And if it isn't, focus on other things that will make you happier.

1:16:54 Adam All right? Uh-huh.

1:16:55 Jenny McShane Bye, Jessica.

1:16:56 Jenny McShane Like me. Hey, you want to do a class project on me?

1:16:59 Drew A shrine.

1:17:00 Jenny McShane You want to build a shrine on me?

1:17:01 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:17:02 Jenny McShane Oh, how dare you.

1:17:04 Jenny McShane Hey, Drew, you want to hear what a horrible sleeper I am?

1:17:06 Drew No. I hear about it all the time.

1:17:08 Jenny McShane I know. But listen to this. OK, remember last week, Thursday? I didn't get any sleep.

1:17:13 Drew Yeah, Friday. Oh, and Wednesday and Thursday I didn't get any sleep.

1:17:15 Jenny McShane Wednesday I slept for three hours. And then I went the whole day and then went to New York and got off the radio show from New York at three o'clock. And then I got back to the hotel like 3.30. And I was getting picked up in the lobby at 5.30. And so I slept three hours the night before. And now I was going to sleep like an hour, 45 minutes or something. I'm lying in my bed. First I've lying in my bed in the hotel room at 3.30 thinking, what's on TV? I mean, not even close, I mean, just watch TV. Then I take one of those sleeping pills.

1:17:45 Drew Oh my God.

1:17:46 Jenny McShane And I'm still lying there going, hey, what's on TV? And I'm watching TV. And now it's getting near four in the morning. I'm getting picked up at 5.30, okay? Oh my God. Now it's getting near four in the morning and I'm thinking, I could watch TV for, you know, if I could get up whenever I wanted, I'd watch TV for another hour. But since I'm getting picked up an hour and 15 minutes, I only slept three hours the night before, I'm gonna go to bed. And I went to bed and I set the alarm for 5.15 or something because I was gonna get up and meet the guy in the lobby.

1:18:12 Drew You woke up at 5.12?

1:18:14 Jenny McShane I woke up at 5.05, got up, looked at the clock and went.

1:18:18 Drew Oh my God.

1:18:19 Jenny McShane I'm gonna take a shower then.

1:18:20 Drew It's painful just thinking about that.

1:18:22 Jenny McShane Now that's with a sleeping pill in me, an industrial strength one that I took only like an hour and 10 minutes ago.

1:18:28 Drew That is insane.

1:18:30 Jenny McShane And I slept three hours ago in the entire, never stopped going the whole day.

1:18:34 Drew Painful just hearing that story.

1:18:34 Jenny McShane Isn't that amazing? How do I do that? What is that? Don't know.

1:18:38 Drew You're sick.

1:18:39 Jenny McShane Thank you. All right. I just want to hear from a doctor. Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. She's in this movie that I'm not in.

1:18:48 Drew And he's pissed.

1:18:48 Adam And I'm pissed about.

1:18:50 Jenny McShane She's got something going on on HBO that I'm not in. And she's got something going with the Forrest Whitaker brothers. I'm not in that either. So we'll be back to talk about all those things. Wait a minute. And Ryan, who's a 17 and likes masturbation better than sex with his girlfriend after this. Yay, it's a loveline. Hello, Adam Carolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Who's coming in here tomorrow night? What did Anne do with that list?

1:19:57 Drew I think it's just you and me.

1:19:58 Jenny McShane Oh, it is? All right, well, don't bother tuning in tomorrow night. Oh, Nikki Cox will be in here from-

1:20:06 Drew Tomorrow night?

1:20:07 Jenny McShane Yeah, night after that, yeah. Happily Ever After or whatever. What is that show? She got a new show coming out. It's called- I think she spells it CK-Asset. Yeah. No, it's called-

1:20:22 Drew COX.

1:20:23 Jenny McShane Right. Nikki Cox.

1:20:25 Drew That's her name, Anderson.

1:20:26 Jenny McShane That's her name, Anderson. Don't freak out over there. She's married to my friend Bobcat. Oh, that son of a bitch. How did he pull that one off? All right. What do you want, Drew?

1:20:35 Drew Someone faxed us again about the morning after pill as opposed to RU-486. Very different products. RU-486 is an abortion pill. Prevent and Plan B are not. They're post-coital emergency contraception.

1:20:47 Jenny McShane Sort of the difference between the pill and an abortion pill.

1:20:52 Drew Absolutely.

1:20:53 Jenny McShane One prevents you from getting pregnant.

1:20:55 Drew And one causes an abortion.

1:20:56 Jenny McShane Let's make it even easier. It's sort of the difference between a condom and an abortion pill.

1:21:01 Drew Yeah.

1:21:01 Jenny McShane Just because our listeners really need to have things really illustrated.

1:21:05 Drew A hamper and an abortion pill. Let's go all the way.

1:21:09 Jenny McShane Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. She's in The Watcher, which is currently out in theaters. That is, what's his name? And then the other guys in there too. That's Keanu Reeves and James Spader.

1:21:22 Jenny McShane And Marisa Tomei, too.

1:21:23 Jenny McShane And Marisa Tomei. And then we got a whole bunch of other stuff. And is in Shark Attack, which is also with Marisa Tomei. And Casper Van Deen, right?

1:21:35 Jenny McShane Uh-huh, it's on HBO.

1:21:37 Jenny McShane That is currently out. And Rob Schneider. Rob Schneider.

1:21:40 Jenny McShane Oh, Rob Schneider.

1:21:42 Jenny McShane Rob Schneider wanted to come in here. Oh yeah. Are they talking about this? What are they talking about in the air? Okay, we're in the middle of this, still going on with this actor strike, or SAG and AFTRA, the Actors Unions, and all those people out here are on strike, you know? And I guess we can't do commercials, and I don't know what else, maybe just commercials. And all these actors, because they're a bunch of pussies, and they're, no, they really are, they're just a bunch of freaks, they're a bunch of like injured, wounded idiots. I made a few comments about the strike saying I don't really care that much, and they got all freaked out and jumped on me because I don't have anything better to do. And listen, all you idiots, don't think I don't know what the truth is. You guys couldn't be happier this strike is going on. It's the first time you've had an excuse for not working. The first time. Believe me, let me tell you something, if the strike ended tonight at midnight, you know what all you guys will be doing tomorrow morning? Back to the job that had nothing to do with acting. Please. You guys cracked me up. It's like you're not working because of the strike. 99% of you didn't work anyway. Please. And this whole thing where people, well people, you know, Tom Hanks comes on there and he says, oh, these people, this is, you know, this is their livelihood. This is how they make their living. Oh, what about all the people who wanted to make? I wanted to play pro football. What about my livelihood? There's other people who wanted to race on the professional motocross circuit. There's other people who want to be in the circus. They can't make a living doing it. What a surprise. Acting is not a job. It really isn't.

1:23:15 Jenny McShane Yes, it is.

1:23:15 Jenny McShane And now it's a privilege. There's how many, how many, what percentage of people that want to be actors make a living off it?

1:23:23 Jenny McShane I think it's like 10%.

1:23:24 Jenny McShane Maybe. Okay. And that's, no, that's in the union. The people, I'm talking about the millions of people just want to act.

1:23:30 Jenny McShane Right. But this.

1:23:31 Jenny McShane That's not a job. Would you call that a job?

1:23:34 Jenny McShane The acting in films and TV is, I think, a luxury that, you know, but this, the strike that's going on right now is for actors that do make a living as commercial actors.

1:23:43 Jenny McShane Well, that's not a job either.

1:23:44 Jenny McShane Yes, it is.

1:23:45 Jenny McShane Apparently, it's not because they're saying screw you, we don't need you.

1:23:48 Jenny McShane A lot of people support their families doing commercials. You know, the character actor you see on the-

1:23:53 Jenny McShane Blument their income on a fantasy job that's not a real job. It's not a real job. It is not a job, everybody. You want to support your family? Get a job. Don't wait around. Get a real job and shut up. Tired of hearing you complain? I make a few comments about it and you guys all start belly aching. Kiss my ass. No, Rob Schneider. Thanks for bringing that up. Rob Schneider wanted to come on to the show and debate me about this. His people called in and said, Rob wants to come on to debate. I said, fine, come on in. Then they called back and said, he wants to just do a phoner. I said, no, he's not. He's come in here. He brought it up and come in and do it. Then they said, well, he's sequestered or secluded himself because he's writing a movie. I'm writing a movie too. It doesn't take anything. You can do whatever you want. That's the whole point. Then Jimmy said he saw him at the movie theaters two nights later. That's how committed he is to this cause, everybody. Ryan, you're 17. What's up?

1:24:58 Jenny McShane Yeah. I constantly masturbate. Great. When I have sex with my girlfriend, I just, it doesn't feel good. I don't like doing it. I like masturbating more than having sex with her.

1:25:10 Jenny McShane Well, it's good. It's just not the real thing, right?

1:25:13 Jenny McShane Yeah. Yeah.

1:25:14 Jenny McShane I know what you're saying.

1:25:15 Drew How many times a day are you doing this?

1:25:16 Jenny McShane Oh, I do it like once a day, but like six times a week. Just like every day.

1:25:25 Jenny McShane Okay.

1:25:27 Drew Recreation, please. So Adam, how many times are you doing this? How many times a day?

1:25:33 Jenny McShane No, no. I think you just said how many times.

1:25:35 Drew How often are you doing this?

1:25:39 Jenny McShane Well, I do it once a day, six times a week every day. Hey, I've said a thousand times. I'll pit our callers against any other radio shows national or otherwise in this stupidity competition. Ryan, you smoke a fair amount of weed too? Yeah. Shocking.

1:26:03 Drew No kidding. Yeah.

1:26:04 Jenny McShane The last guy I called this show, smoked a lot of weed. He swung a hammer for a living and couldn't even figure out the term interior. He said, I mostly do inside the housework.

1:26:17 Drew Make it look nice. Make the inside look nice.

1:26:20 Jenny McShane When I said, okay, well, you swing a hammer for a living, ask me a carbon request and you want to know how I polished granite. Ask me a nice masonry question. That's excellent.

1:26:31 Adam All right.

1:26:32 Jenny McShane Hey, Ryan.

1:26:33 Drew Yeah.

1:26:33 Jenny McShane Why don't you stop smoking so much weeds, making you dumb, or you know what I'm saying? Okay. Stop masturbating so much and smoking so much weed.

1:26:41 Drew Well, he's not masturbating that much. Well, by your standards, he's way behind.

1:26:45 Jenny McShane I know. I know, but he doesn't have as high tolerance as I have for masturbation.

1:26:50 Drew I see.

1:26:50 Jenny McShane Not everyone is cut out of the same cloth I am.

1:26:53 Drew The question is, why doesn't he like the real thing? Why doesn't he like intimacy?

1:26:58 Jenny McShane Can't you close your eyes and pretend you're masturbating like I do?

1:27:02 Jenny McShane No.

1:27:04 Jenny McShane That's bad.

1:27:05 Drew It's like spicola here, right?

1:27:07 Jenny McShane Yeah. Hey, Ryan. Yeah. I'd rather focus on your weed consumption than your sex problem.

1:27:17 Jenny McShane Oh, I hear some tasty waves, cool buzz, and I'm fine.

1:27:22 Jenny McShane You smoke a lot of weed, right?

1:27:26 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:27:26 Drew Since you're about 13, right?

1:27:28 Jenny McShane Huh?

1:27:28 Drew Since you're about 13?

1:27:29 Jenny McShane Since his mom was 13.

1:27:31 Adam Are you kidding me?

1:27:32 Jenny McShane Ryan, slow down a little, Dumbo.

1:27:34 Drew He can't.

1:27:35 Adam Okay.

1:27:35 Jenny McShane Then can you do something?

1:27:37 Jenny McShane What?

1:27:38 Jenny McShane You got to go to MA.

1:27:40 Jenny McShane MA?

1:27:41 Adam Yeah.

1:27:42 Jenny McShane You're smoking way too much weed.

1:27:44 Jenny McShane Well, my parents right now have me with a psychologist.

1:27:47 Drew Well, talk to the psychologist about the amount of pot you're doing, okay?

1:27:50 Jenny McShane Okay.

1:27:50 Drew They need to know that. As far as, and then I talked to psychologists too about this issue of not liking to be physical with your girlfriend. There's a reason for that.

1:27:59 Jenny McShane Hey, I bet if you cut out weed for one week and masturbate for one week, he'd be all over.

1:28:04 Drew Yeah, but now you get so depressed coming off the pot too.

1:28:07 Adam Yeah.

1:28:08 Jenny McShane I didn't masturbate last night, by the way.

1:28:10 Drew Oh my God. Are you okay?

1:28:12 Jenny McShane I'm okay now.

1:28:14 Adam You caught up.

1:28:14 Jenny McShane It was such a touch and go last night for a little. No, I decided no.

1:28:19 Drew What? A volitional?

1:28:20 Jenny McShane Yes. Yes. Oh my God. Oh dear.

1:28:23 Drew Oh my God.

1:28:25 Jenny McShane Yes. It could be the beginning of the end.

1:28:28 Drew There's something wrong. You have a brain tumor. You're waiting to die. Yeah.

1:28:31 Jenny McShane Could be. I did feel a little pressure on my forehead area. Yep. Decided not to. Yep. Thought about it. Said no. No. Going to bed.

1:28:40 Drew I don't know what to say.

1:28:42 Jenny McShane I don't know. I don't know what it is. The point is I had to dig very deep. I had to really do some soul searching when I went to bed. Yeah. Jacked off at eight in the morning. Oh my God. No. No, I didn't.

1:28:56 Drew It was five in the morning.

1:28:56 Adam Yeah, it's fine.

1:28:58 Jenny McShane How dare you. Kim.

1:29:00 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:29:00 Adam You're 18.

1:29:02 Drew Hey, you're awake. You were asleep before, weren't you?

1:29:06 Jenny McShane What?

1:29:07 Adam Okay.

1:29:08 Drew All right, Kim.

1:29:09 Jenny McShane You've been on hold for 116 minutes.

1:29:12 Jenny McShane I'm very tired. I'm sick too.

1:29:14 Jenny McShane Hey, Kim. I got an idea, baby. Here's what I'm going to do. You put the phone down and take some water and run it on your face, all right? And you make that sound I make when I'm giving a girl oral sex. I go, huh?

1:29:27 Drew And we'll take a break.

1:29:29 Jenny McShane And we'll take a little break and then we'll come back and talk to you, okay? Okay. Be just a few minutes, right? All right. Hold on. All right. We'll take a little break and we'll be back after this.

1:29:43 Jenny McShane Uh, back in a minute.

1:30:20 Jenny McShane Now, Madam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Phone, I forget about that phone number. Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. Jenny is in The Watcher, Keanu Reeves, and Bill Pullman's in that. He's a good actor, don't argue with me. And going to be soon soon be seen in Renegade, the movie, and Nash Bridges, the movie. Don't forget Cheech and Don. I'm surprised they don't use their full name on that ad. Cheech Marin and Don Johnson, who's married to Melanie What's Who Knows. That's a pretty realistic portrayal of San Francisco detectives. Wouldn't you say?

1:31:00 Jenny McShane I think it is.

1:31:01 Jenny McShane Yeah, driving around the Canary Yellow 69 Barracuda with the 440.

1:31:05 Jenny McShane Oh, that part isn't better.

1:31:06 Jenny McShane And he's wearing the jacket that the guy wins in the Masters Tournament, wearing a $1,500 Armani blazer around. That's pretty typical, the guy who makes $38,000 a year as a cop. Hey, what's the deal? I don't know who started this. I think it maybe got started in Starsky and Hutch, but it was in the 18 we're talking about this doing it now. It's a tradition. We're undercover cops, plainclothes cops drive around in canary yellow cars with open headers and manned wheels.

1:31:40 Drew Something as auspicious as undercover. Well, I see I'm going to stand out so people won't think of me as somebody going undercover.

1:31:50 Jenny McShane Exactly. If somebody drove up to your house in a car like that, would you think they were a cop?

1:31:54 Jenny McShane I got a series planned out that I'm pitching to ABC this week where it's an undercover narcotics agent who drives around in the Batmobile. Okay. It's totally believable. Just as believable is Cheech and Don driving around. That's a 69 Canary, yellow, barracuda.

1:32:11 Drew They got to get some use out of that Batmobile. They're going to be happy to do that.

1:32:14 Jenny McShane Actually, I'm going to use the monkey's mobile on the pilot and then he's going to trade that in for the Batmobile because he wants to go deep undercover.

1:32:24 Adam Okay.

1:32:24 Jenny McShane And then the Munster's mobile. You've got to drive the Munster's casket dragster around. Really, Don Johnson would be less conspicuous.

1:32:36 Jenny McShane Driving in a, an undertaker's car.

1:32:38 Adam Yeah.

1:32:39 Jenny McShane Driving around in Bigfoot. All right.

1:32:42 Jenny McShane Kim.

1:32:43 Drew Hi, Kim.

1:32:44 Jenny McShane All right. So now you're awake.

1:32:46 Jenny McShane I'm awake. I really wasn't asleep though.

1:32:49 Drew We know.

1:32:50 Jenny McShane Did you guys play fun before I was awake?

1:32:52 Drew We did. Now what's going on?

1:32:54 Jenny McShane Um, okay. Well, okay. I have this friend. I use the friend, the term friend lightly because he was my boyfriend. He, he and I have been off and on for approximately four years since I last.

1:33:12 Jenny McShane Kim, speak up a little. Would you please?

1:33:14 Jenny McShane I have to be quiet.

1:33:16 Drew All right. And what's going on with him now?

1:33:19 Jenny McShane He told me things that have happened in the past.

1:33:25 Drew Hey, Kim, you're talking sort of riddles around. It's just my ex-boyfriend told me, fill in the blank.

1:33:33 Jenny McShane That he was sexually abused when he was little.

1:33:38 Drew Great.

1:33:39 Jenny McShane Fantastic.

1:33:40 Jenny McShane It kind of like freaked me out.

1:33:42 Drew Sure. That's why the relationship has been so chaotic. Is he bisexual also?

1:33:47 Jenny McShane Oh, no. He's a totally straight-laced kid and very religious.

1:33:56 Drew Good. Maybe it's keeping him contained.

1:33:57 Jenny McShane So are you freaked out by that?

1:34:00 Jenny McShane Kind of. I don't know why it freaked me out so bad.

1:34:05 Jenny McShane Okay.

1:34:06 Drew Well, it's something about him that you didn't know, and it's a very serious thing.

1:34:11 Jenny McShane Like he's moving on Thursday to a totally different state, and it's like that's freaking me out even more.

1:34:17 Jenny McShane All right. Well, this may be the end of this thing, Kim.

1:34:20 Drew It's freaking out because you're afraid something's going to happen to him or because you're losing him?

1:34:24 Jenny McShane That I'm losing him.

1:34:25 Drew Well, that's hard to deal with as your age especially. These very intense relationships, then people move away, and it's all right. But it's a perceptual thing. It's not really something real. It's not as though this relationship is that important. Maybe he's ex-boyfriend, somebody I'm sure you're concerned about. And you should stay a friend and support him and certainly get him to, maybe he's okay. A single episode of sexual abuse doesn't have to result in long-term issues. It often does.

1:34:52 Jenny McShane Well, we don't know if it's a single episode.

1:34:54 Drew Yeah.

1:34:55 Jenny McShane Speaking of that, Anderson just told me an upcoming episode of Nash Bridges that Don Johnson trades in the Canary Yellow Barracuda for the Pope Mobile.

1:35:05 Drew Oh yeah.

1:35:07 Jenny McShane He doesn't want to be seen.

1:35:08 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:35:09 Drew Well, that would be shot at.

1:35:11 Jenny McShane Yeah, he wants bulletproof plexiglass between him and the bad guys. And he's got to go deeper undercover.

1:35:16 Drew And he likes to be standing up when he's driving.

1:35:20 Jenny McShane He wants you to come on as a guest star.

1:35:25 Jenny McShane I see that show. I see five minutes of that show once a month. I can't figure out what it is.

1:35:30 Drew Did you get that dig, James? It's just about as likely as you coming on as a guest star.

1:35:35 Jenny McShane I can't figure that show out. But I can't figure out Walker, Texas Ranger either. So there's a few shows I can't figure out.

1:35:42 Jenny McShane You know what? I like Walker, Texas Ranger.

1:35:44 Adam You do? Yeah.

1:35:47 Jenny McShane Really?

1:35:48 Jenny McShane I really do.

1:35:49 Jenny McShane No, I met Aaron Norris the other day. He wanted me to come on and play a country singer on there.

1:35:53 Adam Uh-oh.

1:35:53 Jenny McShane And then I found out that he's...

1:35:55 Jenny McShane If you do Walker, Texas Ranger, Renegade and Nash Bridge, we're going to have to get married.

1:35:59 Jenny McShane Yeah. But it's fun.

1:36:00 Jenny McShane Come on.

1:36:01 Jenny McShane It's like playing Cowboys and Indians in there.

1:36:04 Jenny McShane Absolutely. It must be... No, I mean, it's great because it's like not really doing a TV show. I mean, it's like you must be just goofing around, right? I am.

1:36:14 Jenny McShane I like it. I like the characters that I play.

1:36:16 Jenny McShane I know this sounds... I know I'm sounding horribly insulting, but I mean...

1:36:20 Jenny McShane No, it's not at all.

1:36:21 Jenny McShane You've done good work in your day. And if you do Walker, Texas Ranger, you get your paycheck and have a good time.

1:36:26 Jenny McShane Exactly. I don't care. I'm like...

1:36:28 Jenny McShane Right. You show up drunk.

1:36:29 Jenny McShane Still better. No, I just think it's cool that Aaron Norris is Chuck Norris' brother and he produces the show. That's just me, a sentimental kid from Minnesota. What can I tell you?

1:36:39 Jenny McShane Yeah. Oh, yeah, but Chuck just put him in that position.

1:36:43 Jenny McShane I know. I know, but I think it's cool. Like his kids are directing the show and everything.

1:36:48 Jenny McShane Let me tell you something, everyone, about producer. I want everyone to look... I'm going to get myself in a lot of trouble tonight, but our manager Howard, if you look at the man show credits, it says Howard Lapita is the executive producer. He doesn't do anything. So if you look at the credits on a lot of shows where it says like executive producer, producer, whatever, doesn't necessarily mean they did anything. Not a slight against him. He'll tell you he doesn't do anything. But you don't know the difference when you're looking at the credits, says Daniel Kellison, executive producer, Daniel does 65 hours a week, and says Howard Lapita's executive producer, and Howard does, I don't know what he does. He doesn't do anything. The point is, the point is when you watch the credits, you see producer, you never know what it means. Could mean the guy's buddy, could mean a guy who's there 100 hours a week. You don't know what it is.

1:37:38 Drew How does that work? The Corolla crossfire is just nailing everybody.

1:37:42 Jenny McShane Well, is that a bad thing? Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.

1:37:45 Drew I get it every night. I'd like to have a comrade in arm here.

1:37:48 Jenny McShane Do you think Howard would be mad if he heard that?

1:37:50 Drew Yeah.

1:37:51 Jenny McShane Really? Why?

1:37:53 Drew Because I'm sure he has things he does you don't know about.

1:37:55 Jenny McShane Really?

1:37:55 Jenny McShane Yeah.

1:37:57 Jenny McShane Okay.

1:38:00 Jenny McShane All right. Can you name any of that stuff?

1:38:02 Drew Not as much as Daniel does. I mean, Daniel is going full black.

1:38:06 Jenny McShane But if you're watching the screen, you don't know the difference.

1:38:08 Drew You don't know the difference in the relative weight of the different positions.

1:38:12 Jenny McShane Right. So I'm just saying, when you see producer on the TV screen, you don't know what that means. You don't know if the guy was there or not there.

1:38:19 Drew That's right.

1:38:19 Jenny McShane That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?

1:38:21 Jenny McShane Yes, I do.

1:38:22 Jenny McShane Right.

1:38:23 Jenny McShane The executive producer usually gives all the money for the show to be made.

1:38:27 Drew But not always. You don't know that either.

1:38:29 Jenny McShane Don't know that either.

1:38:30 Jenny McShane Yeah, you're right. We don't know. We don't know.

1:38:32 Jenny McShane No. All right.

1:38:33 Jenny McShane I get you.

1:38:35 Jenny McShane We're going to take a little break here. Yeah.

1:38:37 Drew That's what that means.

1:38:37 Jenny McShane Jenny McShane is our guest tonight. She's from The Watcher, which is Tanner Reeves and Barry Gibb. It's in theaters right now. And we'll be back after this.

1:38:51 Jenny McShane You know what I'm saying, I'm there.

1:38:53 Jenny McShane Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline.

1:39:27 Adam Yep, Loveline. All right, that is it.

1:39:33 Jenny McShane I want to thank Jenny McShane for coming in here tonight and being just a delight.

1:39:37 Jenny McShane Thanks, you guys, for inviting me.

1:39:38 Drew In spite of Adam's behavior, I apologize.

1:39:41 Jenny McShane The Watcher, everybody. Keanu Reeves and Metal Arch Lemon.

1:39:47 Jenny McShane And Adam Carolla.

1:39:48 Jenny McShane And Adam Carolla.

1:39:49 Drew Yeah, that could happen.

1:39:52 Jenny McShane James Spader in theaters now and soon to be coming out with a whole bunch of other stuff. So look out for that. And Shark Attack on HBO, which is currently running, right?

1:40:02 Jenny McShane Yes.

1:40:03 Jenny McShane So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. My nuts are tipped.

1:40:09 Jenny McShane This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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